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Anonymous Coward User ID: 124957 United States 08/24/2006 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VERY good evidence for the origin of the Exodus stories AND the legend of Atlantis. There is just so much that fits. This eruption was one of the biggest events in human history and I am surprised that it didn't spawn even more legends than it already has. Quoting: DrPostmanBullshit. The eruption predates the exodus by two centuries or more, so that blows that theory. As for Atlantis, there is absolutely nothing that fits and people who subscribe to the "Santorini is Atlantis Theory" are goddam liars. I'll expose the lies perpetrated by mainstream academicians: Plato stated that Atlantis was destroyed some 10,000 years earlier. The goddam liars: Claim Plato mistranslated the texts. The truth: Plato never translated squat. The story of Atlantis was told to Solon by a priest at Sais. Plato is distant cousin of Solon on his mother's side which is how Plato came to know the story from Solon's writings. Solon was well-versed in Egyptian heiroglyphics having lived and studied in Egypt off and on for nearly a decade (as did Plato). But, that's irrelevant since the priest spoke Greek. The priest told Solon, "You Hellenes have no history because certain pertubations in the Earth's orbit cause periodic cataclysms." Plato stated that Atlantis was beyond the Pillar of Hercules. The goddam liars: They simply ignore this thinking that if they pretend Plato never said it, then it will go away, not to mention that it seriously detracts from their "Santorini is Atlantis Theory." The truth: The Pillar of Herucles is the Rock of Gibraltar. If Atlantis was west of the Rock of Gibraltar, then it was in the Atlantic. If it was in the Atlantic, then it could not be Santorini. Plato stated that Atlantis was an Island-Continent. The goddam liars: They also ignore this. I guess their logic is that if we ignore everything and make it up as we go along, then we don't have to answer the hard questions. The truth: Santorini was a known small island. It was never referred to by any culture as an Island-Continent. The islands of Elba, Corsica, Sicily, Crete, Cyprus and many others are larger than Santorini, yet no culture ever referred to those islands as Island-Continents. Plato stated that Atlantis had harbors with masked entrances to the sea. The goddam liars: They ignore this. The truth: Santorini had no harbors that were masked. For those who don't understand, you might be sailing along and see what appears to be a small cove or inlet, so you ignore it. But, if you were to sail into the small cove/inlet, the waterway would open up into a natural harbor. Chesapeake Bay is one such example of masked harbor. From the sea it don't look like much, but sail into it a was and suddenly it opens up wide. Wide enough for a US naval base and shipyards. Such masked harbors are typical of continents, but not islands. Plato stated that Atlantis had a system of concentric roadways and inter-locking canals. The goddam liars: They ignore this. The truth: Santorini exhibits no sinces of concentric roadways or inter-locking canals. Oddly, Crete, home of the Minoans, did. Equally odd is Minoan writing, which was originally Linear A that evolved into Liner B which is similar to the script on Easter Island, the script near Lake Titicaca and is similar to Akkadian cuneiform. The origin of the Minoans is uncertain, just like the origin of the Berbers and Basques is uncertain. Plato stated that Atlantis was inundated during a deluge. The goddam liars: They make the preposterous claim that Atlantis sank, then correctly point out that it is physically impossible for continents to sink. The truth: Plato never says Atlantis sank. He says it was inundated. A huge difference. If something is inundated, it is flooded. New Orleans did not sink, it was inundated. Plato states the waters at the mouth of the Mediterranean were muddy for centuries. The goddam liars: They pretend Plato never said that because it detracts severly from their "Santorini is Atlantis Theory." The truth: At the time Plato alleges the catastrophe to have occured, the Earth's ocean level were 400 feet to 800 feet lower than they are now. If you were to lower the sea level 400 feet, there would no longer be any Bahamas Islands or Virgin Islands. They would all be connected together by dry land and you could walk from one to the other. Likewise, the width of Florida is triple what it is now, there would be no Florida Keys as they would be part of a huge land mass, and Cuba would also be triple in size. Lower the sea level to 800 feet and you could walk from Cuba to the Bahamas and Virgin Islands. You couldn't walk to Florida because of a large saltwater river that would connect the Atlantic to the Gulf, unless it had a bridge. If the sea levels suddenly rose, then those land masses would be inundated, and they would appear as islands as they do now. It would also result in large volumes of sediement and debris being washed into the currents. Because of the temperature and salinity difference between the Mediterranean and the Atlantic, sedimentation in the water would precipitate out right at the mouth of the Mediterranean, making it very muddy indeed, just like where the Mississippi enters the Gulf, sediments precipitated out to form the Mississippi Delta, and the same with the Nile Delta, and the Dunarea Delta (or Don, Dona, Donau whatever you want to call that river). Now this is mostly caused by the difference in specific gravity (ie density) between fresh water and salt water but the principle is the same when water is of different temperature and salinity. During the last 5 years, undersea structures have been found off of the coast of Japan, on its continental shelf, and just last year off of the coast of India on its continental shelf. Yes, that means people built structures in those places when the sea level was much lower. When was the sea level much lower? 12,000 years ago, just like Plato said. |
kythnos User ID: 140682 Greece 09/07/2006 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does it look like a continent could fit in the Aegean sea with its centre being Santorini? i dont think so and anyway why would they call the Atlantic ocean such? romatisism? i could bore you with scientific arguments but there is many to support both sides of the story. i believe antlantis was not situated at Santorini, rather it seems more viable that it was beyond the pillars of Hercules. ps Hercules was not a name of a man but a title like (general) for leaders heading to the West, Dionysos was for the East. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 134567 United States 09/08/2006 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some are so ignorant to believe what they have studied as fact-if one is wise they will dig a little farther 1500 BC was a VERY SIGNIFICANT time...archeological proofs that do not support the acadenians is denied and suppressed all the time and still is |
kythnos User ID: 141028 Greece 09/08/2006 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Plato told an allegorical story. Many of the "facts" in his allegory are made up. He used a very real and very extreme event almost 1000 years earlier to tell his tale of morality." you seem to be well versed, congratulations, its such a rarety these days. you are half way correct, in my humble opinion, in saying that allegories are used. i tend to believe that spiritual intelectuals like Plato (like many before and after him) had to come down a level in their scriptures as a means to provide a more palletable read to the diversity of readers. i am fortunate enough to be able to read Plato in the language he wrote, incredibly powerful retoric and converversation leave your mind opened and your perceptions more accute. but the trully amazing event is the repeated reading of the text which unfolds different levels of explaination thus understanding. like a stairway to the ultimate truth, always in CODE, splayed out in front of your eyes. the truth is within the text, between the lines, in the numerology (as Homeric Ellenic-greek is the only arithmetic language ever used on the Earth composed of over 450,000 words each specificaly targeting the truth). the truth is within the text, between the lines, in the metaphores, alygories, in the dressing up of the names and places. all one has to do is understand the nature of things, to do that takes many lifetimes, how many is up to you to concur and flow with the one truth as pythagoras said: ZERO + INFINATE = ONE myden syn apiro ison monas |