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Could you kill???

 
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Yes, I could, defense and to take out someone who was a serious threat.
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That's not a fair question to ask to those who haven't killed before.

If you haven't done it, the truth is, YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Everyone thinks they could, without question. But in reality, a good chunk of those people can't. Or at least hesitate long enough to make the question irrelevant as they lost their opportunity to protect/stop whatever.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


^We had a few go "gun shy" in Iraq, "trained soldiers".

They got sent home.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


So are we recruiting the right people? High suicide rates? Convincing our youth they can when they have become to soft?
Sorry I ask direct and hard questions???
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


I have a theory on the suicides. If you wanna hear it?
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Yes, I could, defense and to take out someone who was a serious threat.
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Good answer! Sometimes we miss the mark. Sadly.
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That's not a fair question to ask to those who haven't killed before.

If you haven't done it, the truth is, YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Everyone thinks they could, without question. But in reality, a good chunk of those people can't. Or at least hesitate long enough to make the question irrelevant as they lost their opportunity to protect/stop whatever.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


^We had a few go "gun shy" in Iraq, "trained soldiers".

They got sent home.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


So are we recruiting the right people? High suicide rates? Convincing our youth they can when they have become to soft?
Sorry I ask direct and hard questions???
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


I have a theory on the suicides. If you wanna hear it?
 Quoting: NWOccupation


I do wanna hear it!
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Yes, I could, defense and to take out someone who was a serious threat.
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Good answer! Sometimes we miss the mark. Sadly.
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Who is 'WE'.
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Why do you ask that question anyway?
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Had someone close lose someone. Maybe could have been prevented??
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^We had a few go "gun shy" in Iraq, "trained soldiers".

They got sent home.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


So are we recruiting the right people? High suicide rates? Convincing our youth they can when they have become to soft?
Sorry I ask direct and hard questions???
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


I have a theory on the suicides. If you wanna hear it?
 Quoting: NWOccupation


I do wanna hear it!
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


So the war in both Iraq and Afghan were over pretty quick AKA heavy fight. Then the occupations began AKA lighter fighting.

Us and those Special operators saw death over and over and over. A lot of the occupation guys didn't. Maybe one battle and an IED. I think it has to do more with frequency of the "trauma".

I'll give an example. Only one guy that was in the war that I know has committed suicide. Four... I say again four who didn't go to war, but participated in the occupation have.

As for recruiting my Grandpa who was in Korea told me this, "We were older, late twenties, early thirties. You were what 19? And so were all your buddies. Vietnam too."

And he was right.
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So are we recruiting the right people? High suicide rates? Convincing our youth they can when they have become to soft?
Sorry I ask direct and hard questions???
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


I have a theory on the suicides. If you wanna hear it?
 Quoting: NWOccupation


I do wanna hear it!
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


So the war in both Iraq and Afghan were over pretty quick AKA heavy fight. Then the occupations began AKA lighter fighting.

Us and those Special operators saw death over and over and over. A lot of the occupation guys didn't. Maybe one battle and an IED. I think it has to do more with frequency of the "trauma".

I'll give an example. Only one guy that was in the war that I know has committed suicide. Four... I say again four who didn't go to war, but participated in the occupation have.

As for recruiting my Grandpa who was in Korea told me this, "We were older, late twenties, early thirties. You were what 19? And so were all your buddies. Vietnam too."

And he was right.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Age is an issue. I think they think younger means better control? Sorry you were an "us". I hope all goes well for you :) I did see the post and pray for a successful resolve. Do you think it stems from there? Just curious?
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I have a theory on the suicides. If you wanna hear it?
 Quoting: NWOccupation


I do wanna hear it!
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


So the war in both Iraq and Afghan were over pretty quick AKA heavy fight. Then the occupations began AKA lighter fighting.

Us and those Special operators saw death over and over and over. A lot of the occupation guys didn't. Maybe one battle and an IED. I think it has to do more with frequency of the "trauma".

I'll give an example. Only one guy that was in the war that I know has committed suicide. Four... I say again four who didn't go to war, but participated in the occupation have.

As for recruiting my Grandpa who was in Korea told me this, "We were older, late twenties, early thirties. You were what 19? And so were all your buddies. Vietnam too."

And he was right.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Age is an issue. I think they think younger means better control? Sorry you were an "us". I hope all goes well for you :) I did see the post and pray for a successful resolve. Do you think it stems from there? Just curious?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Age and maturity is part of it. I mean I fired rockets and missiles during shock and awe. It was just a laptop screen to me at the time, kind of like a video game.

Then I had to roll down the highway in a helo to an oil fire and see what we had done...
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Do not mean you should kill people just that we all have a lot of issues with a lot of folks and I am curious what it will take to make each of us s individuals to take action?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Are you writing a paper or article on this topic?

EDIT: just saw your post on why you ask


YES I certainly could, for defense of someone/something that mattered, including innocents unknown to me.

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 03/22/2015 04:12 AM
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Why do you ask that question anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44493293


Had someone close lose someone. Maybe could have been prevented??
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Everything has a path prior to death. Nothing can be prevented when time has run its course.
If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

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There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop!

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INSIGHT
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I do wanna hear it!
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


So the war in both Iraq and Afghan were over pretty quick AKA heavy fight. Then the occupations began AKA lighter fighting.

Us and those Special operators saw death over and over and over. A lot of the occupation guys didn't. Maybe one battle and an IED. I think it has to do more with frequency of the "trauma".

I'll give an example. Only one guy that was in the war that I know has committed suicide. Four... I say again four who didn't go to war, but participated in the occupation have.

As for recruiting my Grandpa who was in Korea told me this, "We were older, late twenties, early thirties. You were what 19? And so were all your buddies. Vietnam too."

And he was right.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Age is an issue. I think they think younger means better control? Sorry you were an "us". I hope all goes well for you :) I did see the post and pray for a successful resolve. Do you think it stems from there? Just curious?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Age and maturity is part of it. I mean I fired rockets and missiles during shock and awe. It was just a laptop screen to me at the time, kind of like a video game.

Then I had to roll down the highway in a helo to an oil fire and see what we had done...
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Reaction? Sorry.
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worship
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Do not mean you should kill people just that we all have a lot of issues with a lot of folks and I am curious what it will take to make each of us s individuals to take action?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Are you writing a paper or article on this topic?

EDIT: just saw your post on why you ask


YES I certainly could, for defense of someone/something that mattered, including innocents unknown to me.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


No paper. Thank you for the response.
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So the war in both Iraq and Afghan were over pretty quick AKA heavy fight. Then the occupations began AKA lighter fighting.

Us and those Special operators saw death over and over and over. A lot of the occupation guys didn't. Maybe one battle and an IED. I think it has to do more with frequency of the "trauma".

I'll give an example. Only one guy that was in the war that I know has committed suicide. Four... I say again four who didn't go to war, but participated in the occupation have.

As for recruiting my Grandpa who was in Korea told me this, "We were older, late twenties, early thirties. You were what 19? And so were all your buddies. Vietnam too."

And he was right.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Age is an issue. I think they think younger means better control? Sorry you were an "us". I hope all goes well for you :) I did see the post and pray for a successful resolve. Do you think it stems from there? Just curious?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Age and maturity is part of it. I mean I fired rockets and missiles during shock and awe. It was just a laptop screen to me at the time, kind of like a video game.

Then I had to roll down the highway in a helo to an oil fire and see what we had done...
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Reaction? Sorry.
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


On the outside we were all stone cold, but looking back we all knew it was awful, because we were silent and didn't say much. We were always talking shit to each and what have you, so it was totally outta character. Nothing smells like burning flesh.
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LOVE
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Age is an issue. I think they think younger means better control? Sorry you were an "us". I hope all goes well for you :) I did see the post and pray for a successful resolve. Do you think it stems from there? Just curious?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Age and maturity is part of it. I mean I fired rockets and missiles during shock and awe. It was just a laptop screen to me at the time, kind of like a video game.

Then I had to roll down the highway in a helo to an oil fire and see what we had done...
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Reaction? Sorry.
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


On the outside we were all stone cold, but looking back we all knew it was awful, because we were silent and didn't say much. We were always talking shit to each and what have you, so it was totally outta character. Nothing smells like burning flesh.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Wow ! So sorry you had to experience that. People often fail to see what our country really can do if the need arises. No guilt on you.
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you would be welcome into my life
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you would be welcome into my life
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BTW what is wrong with my butterfly? Picked it because it was pretty. No whatiz whatiz behind it?? Someone enlighten me please.
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That's not a fair question to ask to those who haven't killed before.

If you haven't done it, the truth is, YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Everyone thinks they could, without question. But in reality, a good chunk of those people can't. Or at least hesitate long enough to make the question irrelevant as they lost their opportunity to protect/stop whatever.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


^We had a few go "gun shy" in Iraq, "trained soldiers".

They got sent home.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Do you think that would be more likely to happen to women?
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That's not a fair question to ask to those who haven't killed before.

If you haven't done it, the truth is, YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Everyone thinks they could, without question. But in reality, a good chunk of those people can't. Or at least hesitate long enough to make the question irrelevant as they lost their opportunity to protect/stop whatever.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


^We had a few go "gun shy" in Iraq, "trained soldiers".

They got sent home.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Do you think that would be more likely to happen to women?
 Quoting: kk 65502513


Women no different than men. all the same.
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That's not a fair question to ask to those who haven't killed before.

If you haven't done it, the truth is, YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Everyone thinks they could, without question. But in reality, a good chunk of those people can't. Or at least hesitate long enough to make the question irrelevant as they lost their opportunity to protect/stop whatever.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


^We had a few go "gun shy" in Iraq, "trained soldiers".

They got sent home.
 Quoting: NWOccupation


Do you think that would be more likely to happen to women?
 Quoting: kk 65502513


Women no different than men. all the same.
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Only different in how some view them ?
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The more I think I have decided that women are far more deadly to men than men?
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Be HONEST! Could you kill someone??? Under what circumstances?
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Yup, I could... and under any circumstance that called for it.
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The more I think I have decided that women are far more deadly to men than men?
 Quoting: American Cowgirl


Depends on the circumstances.... If you get a few posts off GLP and think you know killing and death as a process, then you are sadly mistaken. Life gives you what you need. You will never understand someone's path without walking it in their shoes. If you walked a bloody walk and are trying to comprehend it. The only person who can help you is your conscious. Because when we die. It isn't god who takes judgement is is us...

Last Edited by KillerB on 03/22/2015 04:57 AM
If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.
Ayn Rand

There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop!

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Be HONEST! Could you kill someone??? Under what circumstances?
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Yup, I could... and under any circumstance that called for it.
 Quoting: thepatrioticgirl


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I don't have it in my genes to kill even animals much less people .
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Well who said anything about killing animals? That's completely different!
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy Shit! What a ride!"

In times of trouble, I ask myself, "What would Sarah Conner do?" Compared to the apocalypse, everything else ain't shit.





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