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Missouri Lawmakers introduce Bill That will ban ITS FREE GRAB YO EBT recipients from buying cookies, chips, soda, seafood, steak.

 
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They say if you give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. But teach the man to fish, and you will feed him for a lifetime.
Some Missouri lawmakers have seemingly taken the old saying and distilled it down to its most reductive lesson: Don't give fish to poor people.

Indeed, there does seems to be something a bit twisted in Republican Representative Rick Brattin's House Bill 813, which would bar Missouri's roughly 930,000 food-stamp recipients from using their government payouts to buy seafood. The bill would also ban energy drinks, soda, cookies, chips and steak.

See also: Hungry and Broke but Have a Drug Felony? MO Still One of Few States That Says: "Starve"

Brattin's bill follows in the footsteps of several recent laws designed to restrict how needy Missourians use their federal assistance. In 2011 the legislature passed a law that required drug testing applicants who were applying for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Two years later lawmakers banned the use of electronic benefit cards to withdraw welfare funds from casino and strip-club ATMs.

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Waste of time. Stores only need to change the SKU # and they can sell anything they want and call it something else. AND if you don't think its already happening you're delusional.

The way to fix the problem is to have better oversight and means testing of recipients. Either way it's gonna cost taxpayers. So damned if you do damned if you don't.
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this might be the best thing to happen in the US of A... but it might raise crime to so people can find cookie and pop money.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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I hope they pass it and trim down some of these scooter bound free loaders.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Why would you starve? more importantly what is it that stops you from finding employment or a means to be self sufficient? Do you not have a marketable skill or idea that can generate money? Or do you feel that you are owed a lifetime of free food and drink at the expense of those who do work or generate income?
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Not to call you a liar, but I don't believe you in the least.
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I don't get why they can't buy fish. The junk food I understand, but fish?
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Have them work and clean up the highways Do sumthing.
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When you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

Don't teach a man to fish, he's a grown man and fishing is easy.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Not to call you a liar, but I don't believe you in the least.
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Lawmakers are called wanna be Slave Masters.

Lawmakers have no power. Seriously, they don't.

It's the enforcers of laws who have the real power. Educate the enforcers and they won't enforce. They will be the sworn PEACE OFFICERS that they said that they would be when they took the oath.

Laws that control people instead of serving and protecting people should be rejected by everyone, including the peace officers.
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I don't get why they can't buy fish. The junk food I understand, but fish?
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I don't see them buying just simple fish, they go for shrimp and lobster. How much lobster do you buy? They don't even look at the price of those items, just throw in in their cart.
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I don't get why they can't buy fish. The junk food I understand, but fish?
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Some of that fish is really expensive..and after Ferguson got turned into a 3rd world shithole and had to be rebuilt to the tune of millions

Someone has to pay....

And in a way it was they're idea
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Yet here you are,on the internet on GLP. I assume you are using a library computer ? LOL
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This story gets 5 stars as it reveals a very important fact: Republicans cure problems by hurting the POOR FIRST ( and still dont fix anything).

As far as I can see GOVERNMENT is the problem. Its too big and far reaching. I suppose the only fair thing is to cut everyone across the board a certain percentage, and that's not gonna work.
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I don't care what the poor eat. Its the only equalizer in the world, that the poor can have a snack and pleasure now and then

What they need to do is drug testing, hardcore drug testing to be eligible. Food stamps if you pass. Banned from the system for a number of months if you don't.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Yet here you are,on the internet on GLP. I assume you are using a library computer ? LOL
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This story gets 5 stars as it reveals a very important fact: Republicans cure problems by hurting the POOR FIRST ( and still dont fix anything).

As far as I can see GOVERNMENT is the problem. Its too big and far reaching. I suppose the only fair thing is to cut everyone across the board a certain percentage, and that's not gonna work.
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I don't get why they can't buy fish. The junk food I understand, but fish?
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I don't see them buying just simple fish, they go for shrimp and lobster. How much lobster do you buy? They don't even look at the price of those items, just throw in in their cart.
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I think the point is two-fold.

1. Buying crap is not beneficial from a health standpoint and will just end up costing the tax payer money on that end.

2. Buying food that the working unsubsidized poor - who also fund social welfare programs - cannot afford for themselves or their families is not fair. No-one on social welfare ought to live better than what the working unsubsidized poor can afford for themselves, since they too are funding food stamps and health care.

The ideas are sound under the current model/paradigm of scarce resources. It's the implementation that is tricky. On the other hand, the more important question is whether the assumption of scarce resources is even valid.

My personal belief is that there are more than enough resources and technologies on this earth without governmental redistribution of wealth to provide adequate housing, energy and food for every man, women, and child on this planet. We will eventually get their as AI takes over more of the labor at every level of complexity and the connection of labor/wages with consumerism (working to just survive as a living being) will become completely undoable and obsolete.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Not to call you a liar, but I don't believe you in the least.
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I can't work any more. I spent 22 years as a landscaper. I wore my body completely out. I have clogged arteries in my back plus spinal damage so it is unbearably painful to stand or walk for long. Had 3 strokes and lost my mental sharpness. I have to surf the web with my phone so I can type with one hand since the left hand is dead now. I can't even answer phone because my hearing aids interfere with the receiver and I can't hear the callers with no hearing aids. If I could sit all day I could be a Walmart greeter, but that is all I could do. I can't even walk into the store without using a cane.

I am 46 going on 75. Years of hard labor has ruined me. I thought it was good for me. It is not like I had no other choice. I have an IQ of 141. I just enjoyed being outside and hated schools. Now I pay for it.
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I don't get why they can't buy fish. The junk food I understand, but fish?
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I don't see them buying just simple fish, they go for shrimp and lobster. How much lobster do you buy? They don't even look at the price of those items, just throw in in their cart.
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I think the point is two-fold.

1. Buying crap is not beneficial from a health standpoint and will just end up costing the tax payer money on that end.

2. Buying food that the working unsubsidized poor - who also fund social welfare programs - cannot afford for themselves or their families is not fair. No-one on social welfare ought to live better than what the working unsubsidized poor can afford for themselves, since they too are funding food stamps and health care.

The ideas are sound under the current model/paradigm of scarce resources. It's the implementation that is tricky. On the other hand, the more important question is whether the assumption of scarce resources is even valid.

My personal belief is that there are more than enough resources and technologies on this earth without governmental redistribution of wealth to provide adequate housing, energy and food for every man, women, and child on this planet. We will eventually get their as AI takes over more of the labor at every level of complexity and the connection of labor/wages with consumerism (working to just survive as a living being) will become completely undoable and obsolete.
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They should give them a rod and reel and a hook then.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Not to call you a liar, but I don't believe you in the least.
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I can't work any more. I spent 22 years as a landscaper. I wore my body completely out. I have clogged arteries in my back plus spinal damage so it is unbearably painful to stand or walk for long. Had 3 strokes and lost my mental sharpness. I have to surf the web with my phone so I can type with one hand since the left hand is dead now. I can't even answer phone because my hearing aids interfere with the receiver and I can't hear the callers with no hearing aids. If I could sit all day I could be a Walmart greeter, but that is all I could do. I can't even walk into the store without using a cane.

I am 46 going on 75. Years of hard labor has ruined me. I thought it was good for me. It is not like I had no other choice. I have an IQ of 141. I just enjoyed being outside and hated schools. Now I pay for it.
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Your the exception....you payed into the system...

The cradle to grave and now over the border to grave leaches who don't contribute but suckbthe gubment titty dry ruined it for everybody.....a little socialism seems like a good idea at first BUT ALWAYS ends up in rationing then starvation
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Sorry for your troubles

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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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Why would you starve? more importantly what is it that stops you from finding employment or a means to be self sufficient? Do you not have a marketable skill or idea that can generate money? Or do you feel that you are owed a lifetime of free food and drink at the expense of those who do work or generate income?
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suck it, assclown.

get used to the FACT that there are no more jobs and your gods, the corporatist 1%, are seeing to it that YOU"LL be just as poor and without opportunity is the coming years.
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Republicans wanna give the rich every break they can. They want to hurt the poor any way they can. They are sick devil worshippers. I know those on the right worship the devil. Black robe bastards.

Satan protects the rich.
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67061407


Not to call you a liar, but I don't believe you in the least.
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I can't work any more. I spent 22 years as a landscaper. I wore my body completely out. I have clogged arteries in my back plus spinal damage so it is unbearably painful to stand or walk for long. Had 3 strokes and lost my mental sharpness. I have to surf the web with my phone so I can type with one hand since the left hand is dead now. I can't even answer phone because my hearing aids interfere with the receiver and I can't hear the callers with no hearing aids. If I could sit all day I could be a Walmart greeter, but that is all I could do. I can't even walk into the store without using a cane.

I am 46 going on 75. Years of hard labor has ruined me. I thought it was good for me. It is not like I had no other choice. I have an IQ of 141. I just enjoyed being outside and hated schools. Now I pay for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67061407




Your the exception....you payed into the system...

The cradle to grave and now over the border to grave leaches who don't contribute but suckbthe gubment titty dry ruined it for everybody.....a little socialism seems like a good idea at first BUT ALWAYS ends up in rationing then starvation
..

Sorry for your troubles
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I would literally starve without food stamps. And I eat one thin cheap steak a month. Can't I enjoy one meal a month? This guy is an inconsiderate ass.
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I have no problem with what you wrote at all! It is unfortunate though that the leeches are making it rough for you!

I feel for you, but as you well know times right now suck and we all are feeling the pain! I am making it by without any assistance (fortunately) but I don't eat steak at all! I can't afford it!

I do eat plenty of chicken though, it's what I can afford!
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I don't get why they can't buy fish. The junk food I understand, but fish?
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I don't see them buying just simple fish, they go for shrimp and lobster. How much lobster do you buy? They don't even look at the price of those items, just throw in in their cart.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I think the point is two-fold.

1. Buying crap is not beneficial from a health standpoint and will just end up costing the tax payer money on that end.

2. Buying food that the working unsubsidized poor - who also fund social welfare programs - cannot afford for themselves or their families is not fair. No-one on social welfare ought to live better than what the working unsubsidized poor can afford for themselves, since they too are funding food stamps and health care.

The ideas are sound under the current model/paradigm of scarce resources. It's the implementation that is tricky. On the other hand, the more important question is whether the assumption of scarce resources is even valid.

My personal belief is that there are more than enough resources and technologies on this earth without governmental redistribution of wealth to provide adequate housing, energy and food for every man, women, and child on this planet. We will eventually get their as AI takes over more of the labor at every level of complexity and the connection of labor/wages with consumerism (working to just survive as a living being) will become completely undoable and obsolete.
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Good post.
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I don't care what the poor eat. Its the only equalizer in the world, that the poor can have a snack and pleasure now and then

What they need to do is drug testing, hardcore drug testing to be eligible. Food stamps if you pass. Banned from the system for a number of months if you don't.
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What kind of drugs are they going to look for ? Pills? People are pill heads everywhere. But pills are legal and the doctor probably put them on that junk. Pills are the true zombie drug. Zombies !!!





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