My Thoughts After Experience With Corporatized Women's Medical Clinic | |
Lil Sis User ID: 11213558 United States 03/25/2015 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is the way it is now. That is the Agenda and as soon as you step into Agenda property, that is the reality. I stopped going to the doctor when my home town doctor, who was a loving and compassionate man, retired. One of the rules I live by is to not ever ever let them get their hands on me. I did need to go to the eye doctor to get new glasses, and paid cash. The did one test that cost $20 cash, $200 on insurance. That ought to give you a clue. I wish you well, Sister. Thank you for posting. I hope things go better for you. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59805547 United States 03/25/2015 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People still go to Drs? Even when I broke my ankle I didnt go to a damn Dr.-healed it myself-wasn't fun but I did it.There's an agenda out there to kill-stay away from them.Visualize,pray,use herbs-unless you're split open-don't go that route.Having body parts cut off is yet another sacrifice/disfigurement to their asshole god.Angelina Jolie certainly is playing her 'part' in this hideous destruction of the beautiful feminine. Ladies-trust your bodies,and your intuition.STOP BEING BRAINWASHED-do not give yourselves over to these soulless freaks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12781064 United States 03/25/2015 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and they are doing a lot of data gathering. In my neck of the woods, one of the biggest health systems is pushing a "well being score" online test. You go online and after giving them your name, address, phone number and other stuff, you answer lots of questions about your personal life. From these, you get your "well being score". There are billboards all over town and ads on radio and TV. Now why would they do this? The answer is obvious. It's nothing but a data gathering honeypot. |
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Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EVERYTHING YOU HAVE HAVE SAID AND MORE! Thanks for the pin. I have some to tell.... From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are personal things, I do not really feel comfortable telling, but whatever. This was the first time I had seen this doctor. I thought I chose a good one, she was a women, I felt she had trusting eyes. I went in for Ovarian pain, which is really a struggle during certain times of the month. Back in 2010, my left ovary swelled to 20.4cm, in comparison to the Right ovary being about 4cm, this is a huge amount of swelling. The pain has gradually increased again the last few months, so I scheduled to a doctor about this. This new doctor, after talking to her for 2 minutes asked if I was on birth control or hormone treatment, I said no. I was thrown for a loop when she acted almost appalled that I was not on birth control. She then began to ask a series of questions as to why I am not taking birth control, invasive questions. Like it was unbelievable to her that I was not taking birth control for some reason or another. Everyone takes Bc she says. She then relayed the general protocol for less invasive treatment of ovarian problems, Hormone treatment via birth control. I then relayed to her that Birth control is known to cause cancer, heart disease, and an onslaught of other secondary illnesses. I also told her that a friend of mine went on birth control to treat the same condition, and she ended up in the hospital with Menorrhagia, extreme blood loss. The doctor immediately changed, got upset, and said "this is debated within the professional medical community and there is no consensus that says birth control is the cause of any illness...birth control is the course of treatment for people with hormonal problems". (and the way she said "people with hormonal problems was not said like a professional, it was said with a spiteful bitch like tone). She then said that if I didn't want to take birth control, I could have my ovaries removed. It really angered me that all of this is being recommended without so much as a pelvic exam, or a recent pelvic ultrasound,a urine test,or any kind of blood test to check FSH levels, which would point to a Thyroid or endocrine problem. Immediately, like any good Women's LIB Feminist would, she tells me to go on birth control, and remove my ovaries, and that she also needs to make sure that I don't have any breast problems! Of course I then tell her that I like my ovaries, and I like my hormones, I just don't like painful ovulation, I am looking for a more natural less invasive course of treatment, and if you can not help me with that, then I must be at the wrong place! From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 03/25/2015 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the forefront of BIG DATA medical management. Pretty soon you will have a ROBOT and not a human doctor. The human delivery system will hand you your pills and prescriptions and line you up for the vaccine machine. You will be assessed for the profit in removing any organs you can live without-especially for women -or especially for men replacing the weekend warrior aching joints etc. that make the most money-so your aches and pains are just the road to profit. The pills and medicines they recommend will set you on the most profitable path of 20-50 year olds-so once you are borderline diabetic -they will make sure you become part of their gravy train that lasts for decades by giving you meds or diets that fatten you up for the medical machine.(then they will tell you diabetes is hereditary and get your children too) If you have high cholesterol or heart palpitations you will get statins that double your chance of stroke and heart attack-a lucrative practice staple for over age 50 patients. You will be told to eat crap and told to not eat what's good for you. (remember EGGS were BAD???) All this leads to patients over 50 that get dementia so noone can remember how good they used to feel -and are housed in corporate profit centers called nursing homes that are alternatives of the prisons they put the poor and uninsured in. Dementia diagnosis is starting in the 40's now. Nursing homes are 2/3's of our nations MEDICAID COSTS- not poor people'S kids, AND THEY WANT THAT MONEY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. Dementia is a long term diagnosis -DECADES-so is a big profit center paid for by the taxpayers-similar to the prisons. And much much more many of you that see can add from your own experiences with older relatives and sick friends. PS The lady next door was supposed to be dead two years ago of brain cancer but refused the CHEMO. She LIVES. |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now comes the insurance scam that these corporatized practices have going on, all over the country I am sure, and a rank of doctors helping to pull this off for their monopolized complex. (another thing I realized also is that if a doctor screws up, the complex can take the fall, and settle out of court, and still be allowed to operate without loosing any doctors, or very much money) The doctor yesterday then orders a urinalysis, an ultrasound, and a referral to another doctor. Conveniently, none of these simple procedures can be done that day, or in that office. I would have to schedule for a urinalysis at another office, schedule for the ultrasound at yet another office, and see the referred doctor in another office to further pursue treatment. By my calculation, this corporate complex would now be able to bill insurance 4 different office visit charges, in addition to the procedures themselves. From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pills and medicines they recommend will set you on the most profitable path of 20-50 year olds-so once you are borderline diabetic -they will make sure you become part of their gravy train that lasts for decades by giving you meds or diets that fatten you up for the medical machine.(then they will tell you diabetes is hereditary and get your children too) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19876247 All this leads to patients over 50 that get dementia so noone can remember how good they used to feel -and are housed in corporate profit centers called nursing homes that are alternatives of the prisons they put the poor and uninsured in. Dementia diagnosis is starting in the 40's now. Nursing homes are 2/3's of our nations MEDICAID COSTS- THIS^^^^^^^ The corporate medical gravy train! From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67093869 United States 03/25/2015 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if one day we have no choice but to go to these monopolized health mill units? Quoting: Sgt T'yeballz ok now i am ranting, i tried to actually put some logic to all this down in writing, but have failed,it is just too emotional, and i am ranting. Even this does no justice to how i really feel about the direction the medical authority is headed. Exactly, medical authority, whatever happened to those caring and compassionate caregivers of old,who didn't just "treat" people, they actually Healed us. I don't think you were ranting. I think this was very well written, err, even though I deleted most of it .... I am getting older and starting to need medical attention for a bad shoulder. I work in the healthcare setting so I see a lot of crap. My dad was a doctor. The old fashion kind that made house calls. We didn't have an answering machine, the phone rang all the time, day and night. He called in many a prescription without seeing the patient. He retired in 1989 charging $9/office visit. He just wanted to help people. People, those type of doctors are GONE. There is massive inflation staggering our whole economy. It is being lead by the healthcare industry. Health care gives new meaning to the term leverage. Your copay is the reasonable amount that you should expect to pay. The amount paid by the insurance is the leverage. We have made great strides in medical care since the 50's but at a great price. In my opinion, the only way to put the brakes on the cost of healthcare is to stop the growth. Stop the research. Stop the building. Stop at the point where we are now. Somehow that doesn't seem to be a satisfactory answer? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 03/25/2015 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - Very sorry for your experience and thank you for sharing. Unfortunately it sounds like the doctor only has one or two diagnosis/treatments for WOMEN YOUR AGE -and you thought you were a unique individual with individual treatment needs. FIND A NATUROPATH! Or alternative practicioner -doctors are RETIRING to escape this robotic practice that tells them what they must do. I found an alternative practice and had a nurse practitioner that was very caring and personal -and yet ordered ALL THE TESTS -so I could get a baseline. Turns out the hormones (nurse prescribed estrogen and progesterone -BIODENTICAL from a compounding Pharmacy)I took for months did NOTHING and my issues WENT AWAY over the next two years. My vitamin D was super low and I take that now. The Menopausal Years is a good book-and others by Susan Weed. [link to www.amazon.com] Also Dr HULDA CLARK -everything. [link to www.amazon.com] You are just a profit center for big medicine now. Dr Mercola newsletter - [link to www.mercola.com] Dr Fuchs [link to pharmacistben.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68702000 United States 03/25/2015 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are fortunate in this country to have a lot of alternatives--my sis and family have begun seeing a local Chinese doctor (here in the States) and the experience has been beyond wonderful. I realize that for large, physical issues (bone breaks etc.) Western medicine is unparalleled; however, for what affects people most often--their daily, systemic health--the East has it in spades. Tibetan medicine, Ayurveda, Chinese medicine, your local naturopaths--these guys can work what seem like miracles to Western medicine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57345104 United States 03/25/2015 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make sure to read the their patient agreement, where I went the fine print said they can report you to the authorities for things like "not following Dr. instructions, if they deem you are a threat to the president, etc." And yes it specifically said "the president". This is in the middle of farm country here. |
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Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and they are doing a lot of data gathering. In my neck of the woods, one of the biggest health systems is pushing a "well being score" online test. You go online and after giving them your name, address, phone number and other stuff, you answer lots of questions about your personal life. From these, you get your "well being score". There are billboards all over town and ads on radio and TV. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781064 Now why would they do this? The answer is obvious. It's nothing but a data gathering honeypot. i noticed...if we keep feeding into this bullshat then it will do nothing but grow until it pops. The doctor got angry when I presented disagreeing facts about birth control. She belittled me for not taking it. she couldn't believe that I haven't had an abortion either. She acted insulted that I just didn't take it all in and say "thanks doc may I have another", and then she gave me a rough pelvic exam for punishment. next time, I am going to see a man in the middle of nowhere hopefully, for fear of another one of these women's lib granola toting Rights slashing novartis, pfizer, or TEVA trolls who just want me miserable and sterile, like them. Last Edited by LePALMA on 03/25/2015 10:18 AM From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68539413 United States 03/25/2015 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and they are doing a lot of data gathering. In my neck of the woods, one of the biggest health systems is pushing a "well being score" online test. You go online and after giving them your name, address, phone number and other stuff, you answer lots of questions about your personal life. From these, you get your "well being score". There are billboards all over town and ads on radio and TV. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781064 Now why would they do this? The answer is obvious. It's nothing but a data gathering honeypot. i noticed...if we keep feeding into this bullshat then it will do nothing but grow until it pops. The doctor got angry when I presented disagreeing facts about birth control. She belittled me for not taking it. she couldn't believe that I haven't had an abortion either. She acted insulted that I just didn't take it all in and say "thanks doc may I have another", and then she gave me a rough pelvic exam for punishment. next time, I am going to see a man in the middle of nowhere hopefully, for fear of another one of these women's lib granola toting Rights slashing novartis, pfizer, or TEVA trolls who just want me miserable and sterile, like them. Female Doctors are like female cops they have a need to feel superior because they work in a male dominated profession. Nobody should use a female doctor. |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if one day we have no choice but to go to these monopolized health mill units? Quoting: Sgt T'yeballz ok now i am ranting, i tried to actually put some logic to all this down in writing, but have failed,it is just too emotional, and i am ranting. Even this does no justice to how i really feel about the direction the medical authority is headed. Exactly, medical authority, whatever happened to those caring and compassionate caregivers of old,who didn't just "treat" people, they actually Healed us. I don't think you were ranting. I think this was very well written, err, even though I deleted most of it .... I am getting older and starting to need medical attention for a bad shoulder. I work in the healthcare setting so I see a lot of crap. My dad was a doctor. The old fashion kind that made house calls. We didn't have an answering machine, the phone rang all the time, day and night. He called in many a prescription without seeing the patient. He retired in 1989 charging $9/office visit. He just wanted to help people. People, those type of doctors are GONE. There is massive inflation staggering our whole economy. It is being lead by the healthcare industry. Health care gives new meaning to the term leverage. Your copay is the reasonable amount that you should expect to pay. The amount paid by the insurance is the leverage. We have made great strides in medical care since the 50's but at a great price. In my opinion, the only way to put the brakes on the cost of healthcare is to stop the growth. Stop the research. Stop the building. Stop at the point where we are now. Somehow that doesn't seem to be a satisfactory answer? kudos to your dad! The "complex" does not want doctors like that anymore Who are REAL People and who offer a Human touch making house calls because they can not charge them for office visits, and the complex wouldn't be able to delegate certain courses of treatment. Big medicine is making the true Caregivers not want to be in the business,They are even going after midwives, who birth babies at home. it seems now all we have are "practitioners" who practice being downright scandalous! Stop the building, and break the conglomeration a part. This is socialized medicine, They all follow the same protocols for treatment, the doctor rarely makes the decision, The doctors decision is already made by the corporate complex they practice beneath. From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 03/25/2015 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make sure to read the their patient agreement, where I went the fine print said they can report you to the authorities for things like "not following Dr. instructions, if they deem you are a threat to the president, etc." And yes it specifically said "the president". Quoting: Dinkytuff This is in the middle of farm country here. Obamacare requires most of the questions they ask -so no escaping it-it also controls ALL insurance companies. They ALWAYS had to report people to the secret service that ranted about killing the current office holder -they just didn't tell the patients...or killing anyone for that matter was reported to local police to investigate...there are a lot of crazy people in this world unfortunately... Now they report resistance to authoritarian practice in medicine -if you question vaccines you can have your children removed from your care- and some other hot button issues for them like those LONG BANG STICKS they have to ask about to. You do not have to answer these questions -but when leaving the hospital and picking up a friend upon discharge the nurse told me its a $10,000 fine if they do not ask if you want a FLU SHOT!!! (and write it down) This person had pneumonia and had had lung surgery - but they would have gladly given her a flu shot before leaving!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57345104 United States 03/25/2015 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can you guys explain what they do with all the data they mine? is it for targeted advertising? or what i don't really see what having all this non info about everybody is going to help with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68539413 Really? You think the government is collecting for targeted advertising? Nope government anything is always about control. Nudging you into the correct behavior. If they can't nudge, they'll shove. You smoke? No treatment for cancer. You drink? No liver transplant. You depressed? No guns. |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and they are doing a lot of data gathering. In my neck of the woods, one of the biggest health systems is pushing a "well being score" online test. You go online and after giving them your name, address, phone number and other stuff, you answer lots of questions about your personal life. From these, you get your "well being score". There are billboards all over town and ads on radio and TV. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781064 Now why would they do this? The answer is obvious. It's nothing but a data gathering honeypot. i noticed...if we keep feeding into this bullshat then it will do nothing but grow until it pops. The doctor got angry when I presented disagreeing facts about birth control. She belittled me for not taking it. she couldn't believe that I haven't had an abortion either. She acted insulted that I just didn't take it all in and say "thanks doc may I have another", and then she gave me a rough pelvic exam for punishment. next time, I am going to see a man in the middle of nowhere hopefully, for fear of another one of these women's lib granola toting Rights slashing novartis, pfizer, or TEVA trolls who just want me miserable and sterile, like them. Female Doctors are like female cops they have a need to feel superior because they work in a male dominated profession. Nobody should use a female doctor. I went to a midwife once who was also an obgyn and she was great! She was nice, gentle, caring, and looked into my symptoms before saying or recommending anything....I always remembered her, and this is why I chose a female doctor, for female problems. I don't live in the area where she works, so I had to find someone else. From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Lil Sis User ID: 11213558 United States 03/25/2015 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | transhumanism... Quoting: Doobious Dimensions look for a book by Dr Joseph Farrell and Scott DeHart called Transhumanism: A Grimoire of Alchemical Agendas The Agenda is far deeper than we would believe. ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57345104 United States 03/25/2015 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll try find this commercial I saw, where the woman talks about a patient, who they kept calling and bugging to go in for her yearly physical. And how they found cancer, and that if they hadn't kept harassing her, they'd of never found it. And because of that she's now healthy and cancer free. Creepy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68707589 United States 03/25/2015 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't want speeches, I don't want you to tell me to lose weight, your blood pressure is too high, get more exercise. Yeah I already know that. I want a Zpack for the sinus infection. That's it. You do not need to know how tall I am, how much I weigh, what my reproductive, surgical, etc, history is. I do not need umpteen tests, I just need what I know I need. And do NOT talk to me like I am an uneducated 13 year old who has never seen a doc. I am older than you! Pfft, I have to take a DOT physical and get the same crap from the nurses who perform the tests. Yes, I know my blood pressure is ten points too high. That's YOUR artificial standard that was changed, not mine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57345104 United States 03/25/2015 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here it is and they actually use the word "nudge". UnityPoint Clinic Is Looking Out for What's Best for Patients: [link to youtu.be (secure)] Notice it didn't say a thing about "what the patient thinks is best" |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | transhumanism... Quoting: Doobious Dimensions look for a book by Dr Joseph Farrell and Scott DeHart called Transhumanism: A Grimoire of Alchemical Agendas The Agenda is far deeper than we would believe. "The most fundamental way that science will change society in the coming decades will be by altering human beings themselves, the ramifications of which are explored in the philosophy known as Transhumanism. Our bodies and probably even our minds will undergo more change in the next 100 years than the previous 100,000. And given that sex is at the heart of both evolution and human psychology, the consequences for the free sexual market, and for the sex war between men and women, will likely make the mayhem caused by the introduction of the contraceptive pill look like a mere ripple in a stream by comparison." (From An Anti-Feminist Theory of Men's Rights, Male Sexuality, Feminism Blog) From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |
Ohio chic User ID: 68608667 United States 03/25/2015 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the rant and you are spot on. I am a nurse and see it everyday and now am a customer. I will be going to a university hospital and I have never done any hormones, etc after my hystero. I still suffer with the hot flashes but that's ok considering the meds they want to put you on. I have done all natural therapies and nothing worked with the exception of cutting out all caffeine. I am about to embark on a new journey and I am going to listen to the docs advice, but I am going to control my own therapies and do what I feel is the way to go. If I fail, I have no one to blame but me. Thanks again for the post. Great timing for me, actually. NO! My name is NOT spelled wrong. Grab a dictionary. Peace, Love & Prayers God bless America And YES. I am a nurse! SIDE NOTE- I find articles everywhere and post what I think GLP would like to know. I do not necessarily believe or endorse some articles I find. So do not bash the messenger |
Sgt T'yeballz (OP) User ID: 59026263 United States 03/25/2015 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here it is and they actually use the word "nudge". Quoting: Dinkytuff UnityPoint Clinic Is Looking Out for What's Best for Patients: [link to youtu.be (secure)] YES! I actually got a call a couple of months back telling me that I needed a Flu Shot this year. From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet. |