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The World at War - Unidentified aircraft are crushing bases, camps and weapons stores belonging to IRGC in Iraq...pg 4398

 
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Diplomatic statement: The National envoy had an intense discussion with both parties at the highest levels. Neither Hamas nor Israel wants to be dragged into war. We think we've been able to get back to the calm.

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This is not to say can't flare up (and how much Hamas controls rocket fire from Gaza is a debatable issue) but that neither side is 100% set on taking the steps that would lead to a major new war

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Not this again.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agree but it's starting to seem that Israel is just responding to the crime versus eradication of the cause. Just like community oriented policing.(COP) Results are not that impressive. Anyway, I stand behind HER and give my full support for the peace of Israel and may the land continually be blessed.

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Not this again.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agree but it's starting to seem that Israel is just responding to the crime versus eradication of the cause. Just like community oriented policing.(COP) Results are not that impressive. Anyway, I stand behind HER and give my full support for the peace of Israel and may the land continually be blessed.

hf
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My personal thoughts....Israel knows something about why (or more importantly WHO) hamass didn't respond more intensely. They're waiting for that secret shoe to drop.
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This is the time to secretly be clearing spider holes for the prize while the fog of war is active chuckle
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Not this again.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
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Not this again.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Stalling for time perhaps?
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Not this again.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Stalling for time perhaps?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


That's a major part of it. To me, this all looks like a repeat game and the costly movement of assets. It's an old and tiresome game that's being played.
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Not this again.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Stalling for time perhaps?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
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Lather, rinse, repeat.

That being said, I don't think Israel would have built up their forces to such a high degree without some certainty that things are going to go south.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Stalling for time perhaps?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


I still think Israel knows something and are biding their time waiting for it.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Stalling for time perhaps?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


I still think Israel knows something and are biding their time waiting for it.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


You're right. They waiting for the bigger fish to strike the hook. Get the queen bee and the hive is destroyed.
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It does seem like a lot of work for nothing. It is not over. But, it does not appear that there is much enthusiasm coming from Gaza for any escalation. Someone has put the brakes on over there.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Stalling for time perhaps?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


I still think Israel knows something and are biding their time waiting for it.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It makes no sense whatsoever for Israel to do as they did, (build up) for what we saw today. That could have been done with no tanks on the border. In fact, the tanks made it worse because it provoked the people across the fence and a soldier was killed.

And, I don't really believe that Israel has any desire to go on the ground in Gaza. They HATE that idea. They will only do that if it becomes so absolutely necessary and it is forced. And, not for a few rockets.

So what are they doing really? Only your answer makes sense to me. Has to be something we do not know.
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Stalling for time perhaps?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


I still think Israel knows something and are biding their time waiting for it.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It makes no sense whatsoever for Israel to do as they did, (build up) for what we saw today. That could have been done with no tanks on the border. In fact, the tanks made it worse because it provoked the people across the fence and a soldier was killed.

And, I don't really believe that Israel has any desire to go on the ground in Gaza. They HATE that idea. They will only do that if it becomes so absolutely necessary and it is forced. And, not for a few rockets.

So what are they doing really? Only your answer makes sense to me. Has to be something we do not know.
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WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS: Hamas got their hands on long-range rockets that __can___ hit Tel Aviv. They tested at least one of them earlier this week and it flew out into the sea from Gaza - far enough to hit __anywhere__ in Tel Aviv.

Israel knows this is a game changer and they will have to go in. THAT is why we've seen this deployment. Tel Aviv is in the cross-hairs of the Arab nutcases.
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Wash, rinse, repeat.......its getting very old...same ole script each time.
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Wars are now circling Israel. The IDF has to constantly watch its 360. This is no time to be impatient and despondent. They will do the right thing.
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I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


I still think Israel knows something and are biding their time waiting for it.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It makes no sense whatsoever for Israel to do as they did, (build up) for what we saw today. That could have been done with no tanks on the border. In fact, the tanks made it worse because it provoked the people across the fence and a soldier was killed.

And, I don't really believe that Israel has any desire to go on the ground in Gaza. They HATE that idea. They will only do that if it becomes so absolutely necessary and it is forced. And, not for a few rockets.

So what are they doing really? Only your answer makes sense to me. Has to be something we do not know.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon



WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS: Hamas got their hands on long-range rockets that __can___ hit Tel Aviv. They tested at least one of them earlier this week and it flew out into the sea from Gaza - far enough to hit __anywhere__ in Tel Aviv.

Israel knows this is a game changer and they will have to go in. THAT is why we've seen this deployment. Tel Aviv is in the cross-hairs of the Arab nutcases.
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I do not know. This one has thrown me for a loop.

There are so many things that could be true behind the scenes. Whatever it is, the reason is well hidden. This is different than before, from what I can see. Different set of circumstances and different feel to it.
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This country, well the whole world really, is about to get a very RUDE awakening.
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Chaos reigns supreme.........

I think people are getting about as nasty as I have ever seen and it still isn't as bad as it is going to get before all is said and done.
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Live exercise for all to see, training operation under the guise of potential Gaza invasion, show for a different audience, excuse to place Iron Dome in strategic places, pressure to back off became too much, Gaza has things that could be used that are a real threat but are not using, Israel needs forces there for other reasons which are not known now, etc. etc.....many possibilities. What I do not think this was is an intention to honestly "invade" Gaza.

One thing that has changed since 2014, is the North.

Only time will tell.
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Administration sources tell me that Trump is now fully on board with the Putin-Netanyahu deal over Syria.

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Good part of the deal: Iranian forces kept 50 miles from Israel and Russia will accept strikes on Iran-linked forces.

Bad: Doubtful that Assad forces can really secure the south, as Sunni resistance to regime is unlikely to end. Recipe for indefinite jihad & bloodshed.

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Administration sources tell me that Trump is now fully on board with the Putin-Netanyahu deal over Syria.

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Good part of the deal: Iranian forces kept 50 miles from Israel and Russia will accept strikes on Iran-linked forces.

Bad: Doubtful that Assad forces can really secure the south, as Sunni resistance to regime is unlikely to end. Recipe for indefinite jihad & bloodshed.

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"Trump is now fully on board"

"Iranian forces kept 50 miles from Israel"


hmmmmmmm. Interesting timing.

Was that part of the discussion today between the US and Israel?
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Was this about Gaza today, or a solid safety guarantee for the North border (the true concern) and Trump's Peace Deal?
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I wonder too. Like you said, it was a huge build up. Costly operation to move all of those assets. Plus, the Iron Dome things to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. It's honestly puzzling to me.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


I still think Israel knows something and are biding their time waiting for it.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


It makes no sense whatsoever for Israel to do as they did, (build up) for what we saw today. That could have been done with no tanks on the border. In fact, the tanks made it worse because it provoked the people across the fence and a soldier was killed.

And, I don't really believe that Israel has any desire to go on the ground in Gaza. They HATE that idea. They will only do that if it becomes so absolutely necessary and it is forced. And, not for a few rockets.

So what are they doing really? Only your answer makes sense to me. Has to be something we do not know.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon



WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS: Hamas got their hands on long-range rockets that __can___ hit Tel Aviv. They tested at least one of them earlier this week and it flew out into the sea from Gaza - far enough to hit __anywhere__ in Tel Aviv.

Israel knows this is a game changer and they will have to go in. THAT is why we've seen this deployment. Tel Aviv is in the cross-hairs of the Arab nutcases.
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I agree that this is the reason.
There may be more that we do not know, including intel about Iran, Syria and Lebanon.
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GMEggs Morning, folks.

Hamas has vowed to halt airborne arson attacks, top Israeli official says


The source, whose claim contradicts those made by Hamas, says terror group 'suffered serious blow' in Friday air raids after killing of IDF soldier, 'requested ceasefire via Egypt'

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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The 9th of Av means "suffering of Israel"
(through their enemies),

so they might not introduce their own suffering today.

Just a thought ....
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parallel universe@ignis_fatum

#BREAKING
Hamas burning baloon unit threatens to launch 300 new burning baloons towards southern #Israel in a short time
#Gaza


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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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#BREAKING
Hamas burning kite unit : “ We won’t stop the burning kite/balloons launches untill the siege will be lifted”
#Israel #Gaza


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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Report of 300 inciendiary balloons launched towards #ISRAEL to be checked and confirmed. @intellipus @IntelCrab @IntelDoge @ELINTNews @usafshortwave @Global_Mil_Info @IdeologyWars


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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.” Yeats
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Report of 300 inciendiary balloons launched towards #ISRAEL to be checked and confirmed. @intellipus @IntelCrab @IntelDoge @ELINTNews @usafshortwave @Global_Mil_Info @IdeologyWars


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No other country would be expected to put up with this crap, nor would they need to be mindful of their response.
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