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The World at War

 
jake

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I'm at a loss on something, Jazzy. How is it that Likud committed political suicide?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Netanyahu is already on thin ice and has been for quite a while. He's under investigation for fraud, kickbacks, and breach of trust. And his wifes' little spending shenanigans aren't helping. He has consistently backed down time and again from taking action against hamass even when other parties have urged him not to. And most of this has been since Liberman became DM. Livni recently called him out for being indecisive and weak. He was just BARELY able to form a unity gov in his last election as PM, and only then with a bunch of wrangling and promises to unsavory characters (Bennett/Liberman/Herzog). Hell, even Ehud Barak has come out of the woodwork to speak against him.

The people in the border towns are at their wits end because of hamass and feel that Netanyahu is turning a blind eye to their plight in order to save his own ass politically.

This has been going on for far too many years. People are fed up and they show it at the polls.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~

Almost everyone who has been watching this Gaza situation for 10 years or more was certain that Israel would remove Hamas, take Gaza City and install the Palestinian Authority, almost immediately after Trump was inaugurated. Instead, we now see historic, uncharacteristic weakness and indecisiveness from Israel. It's hard to explain why this once in a lifetime geo-political blue moon is being squandered by Netanyahu. I feel like Trump has something of a desire to make peace in the region a goal of his and didn't give Netanyahu the expected support to oust Hamas. If true though, this shows Trump is not a standard Zionist, but an ideological neutral observer.

If this weakness is Netanyahu alone, he better hurry in case Trump is ousted by Dems taking over house and Senate in November. Israel will surely be met with betrayal or at least lack of support by the next more liberal US administration.

In a more jaded view, it's possible Israel doesn't want it resolved at all because a deal making Palestinians citizens of Israel with voting rights won't work, and setting up a statehood deal where the West Bank is then physically connected to Gaza & radicalized won't work for them either.
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What is your opinion guys and girls? Is it Trump

or netanyahu?
#walkaway
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Quite literally nearly every group in Gaza looks to have participated in the rocket attacks on Israel

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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KCNA: "The DPRK government delegation led by Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho paid an official visit to the Islamic Republic of Iran on Aug. 7-9. Head of the delegation Ri Yong Ho met and had a talk with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on Wednesday."

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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HC eases restrictions on Gaza border communities :
• Sderot-Ashkelon train line is open
• summer schools and camps allowed only in safe spaces
• mass gatherings only indoors and only up to 500 people


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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Hamas planning confrontations along border

Hamas calls on Palestinian Arab public to participate in mass marches along Gaza border on Friday.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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I'm at a loss on something, Jazzy. How is it that Likud committed political suicide?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Netanyahu is already on thin ice and has been for quite a while. He's under investigation for fraud, kickbacks, and breach of trust. And his wifes' little spending shenanigans aren't helping. He has consistently backed down time and again from taking action against hamass even when other parties have urged him not to. And most of this has been since Liberman became DM. Livni recently called him out for being indecisive and weak. He was just BARELY able to form a unity gov in his last election as PM, and only then with a bunch of wrangling and promises to unsavory characters (Bennett/Liberman/Herzog). Hell, even Ehud Barak has come out of the woodwork to speak against him.

The people in the border towns are at their wits end because of hamass and feel that Netanyahu is turning a blind eye to their plight in order to save his own ass politically.

This has been going on for far too many years. People are fed up and they show it at the polls.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~

Almost everyone who has been watching this Gaza situation for 10 years or more was certain that Israel would remove Hamas, take Gaza City and install the Palestinian Authority, almost immediately after Trump was inaugurated. Instead, we now see historic, uncharacteristic weakness and indecisiveness from Israel. It's hard to explain why this once in a lifetime geo-political blue moon is being squandered by Netanyahu. I feel like Trump has something of a desire to make peace in the region a goal of his and didn't give Netanyahu the expected support to oust Hamas. If true though, this shows Trump is not a standard Zionist, but an ideological neutral observer.

If this weakness is Netanyahu alone, he better hurry in case Trump is ousted by Dems taking over house and Senate in November. Israel will surely be met with betrayal or at least lack of support by the next more liberal US administration.

In a more jaded view, it's possible Israel doesn't want it resolved at all because a deal making Palestinians citizens of Israel with voting rights won't work, and setting up a statehood deal where the West Bank is then physically connected to Gaza & radicalized won't work for them either.
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What is your opinion guys and girls? Is it Trump

or netanyahu?
 Quoting: jake


It's Netanyahu. He has ALWAYS been on the side of pali rights and statehood, but NEVER at the expense of giving up Jerusalem as Israels capital. And his criminal troubles have plagued him since his first prime ministership. Seems the guy has a penchant to do things on the sly that favor his wallet and position. But his commitment and passion for the State of Israel is undeniable.

Netanyahu was close friends with Trumps dad from his days living in NY. How deep the Bibi/Donald friendship really goes isn't really known.

All I know is that Liberman has alot to do with the shit that's going on right now. You can smell it.
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Annnnd here we go again....


Calls all over Gaza for the attending of riots at the border, could be in for a seriously chaotic day with border protests.

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Annnnd here we go again....


Calls all over Gaza for the attending of riots at the border, could be in for a seriously chaotic day with border protests.

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Walid just had 10 lbs of candied almonds delivered though..oh well.
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08/10/2018 12:37 AM

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Senior Israeli officials clarify: the main test will be the border riots and the burning balloon fires today. Every event on the border can ignite the fighting again , but this time it will be a lot harsher then before.
Silence will be answered with silence.
#Israel #Gaza


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Israeli officials: Any action on the border today will be met with a harsh response. There is no official ceasefire, but an equation of quiet for quiet.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Russia to treat further US sanction as an open declaration of economic war PM

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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I'm at a loss on something, Jazzy. How is it that Likud committed political suicide?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Netanyahu is already on thin ice and has been for quite a while. He's under investigation for fraud, kickbacks, and breach of trust. And his wifes' little spending shenanigans aren't helping. He has consistently backed down time and again from taking action against hamass even when other parties have urged him not to. And most of this has been since Liberman became DM. Livni recently called him out for being indecisive and weak. He was just BARELY able to form a unity gov in his last election as PM, and only then with a bunch of wrangling and promises to unsavory characters (Bennett/Liberman/Herzog). Hell, even Ehud Barak has come out of the woodwork to speak against him.

The people in the border towns are at their wits end because of hamass and feel that Netanyahu is turning a blind eye to their plight in order to save his own ass politically.

This has been going on for far too many years. People are fed up and they show it at the polls.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


clappa
"Israel must be like a mad dog, to
dangerous to bother." Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that will happen, before Israel goes under." "Samson Option"

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toomuchcaff Morning, folks.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Dozens of arson balloons have been launched into Israel from Gaza

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They never learn...
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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toomuchcaff Morning, folks.
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hf
"Israel must be like a mad dog, to
dangerous to bother." Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that will happen, before Israel goes under." "Samson Option"

“When an enemy awakes in the morning to kill you, wake up earlier and kill him first.”
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#IDF: Even the minor occurrence on the fence might lead #Israel to immediate respond.

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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toomuchcaff Morning, folks.
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hf
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coffeecup
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Barrages of molotov balloons launched towards Israel

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Ut oh....Fat boi is mad cuz he's not the center of attention....

BREAKING: Warning from North Korea: “There is no guarantee that the hard-won atmosphere of stability on the Korean Peninsula will continue”

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 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


All this crap is so damned predictable. We are caught in a time loop.
 Quoting: Earth Cries


One group of journalists is saying they are dismantling, while another is saying they are continuing. Trump is right about some journalists being extremely dangerous.
"Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable."

Mark Twain
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Ut oh....Fat boi is mad cuz he's not the center of attention....

BREAKING: Warning from North Korea: “There is no guarantee that the hard-won atmosphere of stability on the Korean Peninsula will continue”

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 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


All this crap is so damned predictable. We are caught in a time loop.
 Quoting: Earth Cries


One group of journalists is saying they are dismantling, while another is saying they are continuing. Trump is right about some journalists being extremely dangerous.
 Quoting: Moss Rose


Yep, saw the two different takes on it.
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US condemns #Hamas rocket attacks, supports #Israel’s right to defend itself #IsraelUnderFire

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A senior Israeli security official: "Contrary to the reports, #Israel has not agreed to any ceasefire, the matter was clarified to #Egypt and the #UN envoy. I#srael will continue to act according to its interests in #Gaza." #Hamas

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The IDF will reportedly respond harshly to any rioting along the #Gaza border today as well as to incendiary balloons launched into #Israel. It remains to be seen if they these are mere empty threats. The next few hours are crucial. #Hamas

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Artillery fired by IDF at ballooners on the border.

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Here we go again...
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#BREAKING: One wounded on the #Gaza border from IDF fire. #Israel #Hamas

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Palestinian media : IDF opened fire towards a man that approached the border fence near Rafiah injuring him

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Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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I'm at a loss on something, Jazzy. How is it that Likud committed political suicide?
 Quoting: Noble Six


Netanyahu is already on thin ice and has been for quite a while. He's under investigation for fraud, kickbacks, and breach of trust. And his wifes' little spending shenanigans aren't helping. He has consistently backed down time and again from taking action against hamass even when other parties have urged him not to. And most of this has been since Liberman became DM. Livni recently called him out for being indecisive and weak. He was just BARELY able to form a unity gov in his last election as PM, and only then with a bunch of wrangling and promises to unsavory characters (Bennett/Liberman/Herzog). Hell, even Ehud Barak has come out of the woodwork to speak against him.

The people in the border towns are at their wits end because of hamass and feel that Netanyahu is turning a blind eye to their plight in order to save his own ass politically.

This has been going on for far too many years. People are fed up and they show it at the polls.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~

Almost everyone who has been watching this Gaza situation for 10 years or more was certain that Israel would remove Hamas, take Gaza City and install the Palestinian Authority, almost immediately after Trump was inaugurated. Instead, we now see historic, uncharacteristic weakness and indecisiveness from Israel. It's hard to explain why this once in a lifetime geo-political blue moon is being squandered by Netanyahu. I feel like Trump has something of a desire to make peace in the region a goal of his and didn't give Netanyahu the expected support to oust Hamas. If true though, this shows Trump is not a standard Zionist, but an ideological neutral observer.

If this weakness is Netanyahu alone, he better hurry in case Trump is ousted by Dems taking over house and Senate in November. Israel will surely be met with betrayal or at least lack of support by the next more liberal US administration.

In a more jaded view, it's possible Israel doesn't want it resolved at all because a deal making Palestinians citizens of Israel with voting rights won't work, and setting up a statehood deal where the West Bank is then physically connected to Gaza & radicalized won't work for them either.
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What is your opinion guys and girls? Is it Trump

or netanyahu?
 Quoting: jake


I believe you should try to put yourself in Netanyahus place. He is entrusted with the health and welfare of his country.

It is pretty obvious to some that Iran is a nuke power already. They purchased 14 cruise missiles from Ukraine. Ukraine says they were "de-mil'd". It would be pointless to buy them without warheads. You have not and will not hear about Iran purchasing nukes from nk,pak, Russ etc

Netanyahu could put a stop to hamass but at the cost of scores or hundreds of soldiers. For a nation of 6 million that is a big number. He could go to the source and hit Iran at a potential cost of losing the nation.

Surely, it is a huge problem to have to rum to shelters every few months. But, ultimately the rockets did surprising small damage.

The Pentagon says Israel is a one bomb country. One nuke on tel Aviv and there would not be sufficient infrastructure left for Israel to defend itself in even the medium term.

Sometimes, as a leader, you have to opt for the lesser of two evils.

He did the right thing.
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Both Mladenov and Egypt confirm: Israel is not bound by the ceasefire. If there are border riots, rockets or molotov balloons, Israel has the right to respond.
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Hopefully, if everything goes well in the future, you will be able to say "same shit different day" for hundreds of years.
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Molotovs cocktails are being thrown at IDF forces by Gaza rioters.