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From what I'm hearing from Pompeo, the United States REALLY wants to try and convince Iran to come back to the table and discuss things, they really do not want to go to war.

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 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Thats because we can't win in Iran if we went to war.

Iran's missiles are a game changer.

I'm a vet and a patriot but I know war and a war with Iran would be absolute carnage.

Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yep just let the sanctions destroy Iran, they cannot carry on forever like this and soon the regime will cave in.
 Quoting: FlightSimFanatic


They are having huge labor strikes and inflation is starting to become a serious problem.

Trump so far is handling this the right way.


The Obama administration on the other hand is still interfering with the Trump admin in Iran.
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From what I'm hearing from Pompeo, the United States REALLY wants to try and convince Iran to come back to the table and discuss things, they really do not want to go to war.

[link to newschannel9.com (secure)]
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Thats because we can't win in Iran if we went to war.

Iran's missiles are a game changer.

I'm a vet and a patriot but I know war and a war with Iran would be absolute carnage.

Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


John Kerry going to Iran 2 months ago telling Iran not

to negotiate with the Trump Administration will start WW3

just watch.


These attacks will ramp up and things wont go so well
 Quoting: Jake


Lord lets hope not.
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Trump leaves "question mark" over use of force to protect Gulf oil

U.S. President Donald Trump said he was prepared to take military action to stop Tehran having a nuclear bomb but left open whether he would sanction the use of force to protect Gulf oil supplies.

Fears of a confrontation between Iran and the United States have mounted since Washington blamed long-time foe Iran for Thursday's attacks on two oil tankers near the strategic Strait of Hormuz shipping lane.

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From what I'm hearing from Pompeo, the United States REALLY wants to try and convince Iran to come back to the table and discuss things, they really do not want to go to war.

[link to newschannel9.com (secure)]
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Thats because we can't win in Iran if we went to war.

Iran's missiles are a game changer.

I'm a vet and a patriot but I know war and a war with Iran would be absolute carnage.

Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


John Kerry going to Iran 2 months ago telling Iran not

to negotiate with the Trump Administration will start WW3

just watch.


These attacks will ramp up and things wont go so well
 Quoting: Jake


Lord lets hope not.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Thread: President Trump Questions John Kerry's Advising Iran As Violating The Logan Act

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From what I'm hearing from Pompeo, the United States REALLY wants to try and convince Iran to come back to the table and discuss things, they really do not want to go to war.

[link to newschannel9.com (secure)]
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Thats because we can't win in Iran if we went to war.

Iran's missiles are a game changer.

I'm a vet and a patriot but I know war and a war with Iran would be absolute carnage.

Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yeah. It wouldn't just be war with Iran but also with Russia, China and every shia muslim within 10,000 miles of American citizens.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Yes ma'am.

It would not go well.

Iran is a huge country, very mountainous, a logistics nightmare.

Amatuers study tactics, professional soldiers study logistics.

That's all without bringing Russia and China into it.

Its just not worth it, I'm praying to keep the peace.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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Thats because we can't win in Iran if we went to war.

Iran's missiles are a game changer.

I'm a vet and a patriot but I know war and a war with Iran would be absolute carnage.

Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I hope you don't look as dumb as you sound
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77705812


Ya know, it actually IS possible to have a conversation with someone you disagree with without being insulting.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


He claims the United States cannot beat Iran.

The same United States that annihilated Iraq in under a week.

That same Iraq that Iran could not defeat after 7 years of bloody war.

Is it possible then to have a conversation with such loons without being insulting when he's spouting BS that would be insulting to the intelligence of a 7 year old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77705812


Have you ever been to war, dipshit?

You don't know what you're talking about and aren't worth my time.
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From what I'm hearing from Pompeo, the United States REALLY wants to try and convince Iran to come back to the table and discuss things, they really do not want to go to war.

[link to newschannel9.com (secure)]
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Thats because we can't win in Iran if we went to war.

Iran's missiles are a game changer.

I'm a vet and a patriot but I know war and a war with Iran would be absolute carnage.

Lets hope cool heads prevail.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yeah. It wouldn't just be war with Iran but also with Russia, China and every shia muslim within 10,000 miles of American citizens.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Yes ma'am.

It would not go well.

Iran is a huge country, very mountainous, a logistics nightmare.

Amatuers study tactics, professional soldiers study logistics.

That's all without bringing Russia and China into it.

Its just not worth it, I'm praying to keep the peace.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


clappa
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Trump just announced a new Sec. Def... Shanahan drops out, will not go forward with his confirmation


Sec of Army Mark Esper will be new acting Sec. DEF.

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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
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BREAKING: President Trump Calls Tanker Attacks in Iran 'Very Minor'

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In an interview posted this week, President Donald Trump contradicted his top advisers on the threat posed by Iran, saying recent attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman were “very minor.”
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He knows the Iranians have some iron clad proof of foolery. remember the CIA drone it was deny deny deny by everyone our military our media etc. then Iran brought it out. then it was nothing useful can be gotten from it then Iran showed all the decrypted footage.
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Congressman Mark Green (R-TN)


Trump sending 1000 troops to the middle east is purely

defensive, to protect against further attacks not offensive.

It's a softer and more wise approach... we do not want war.

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Senator Mark Green (R-TN)


Trump sending 1000 troops to the middle east is purely

defensive, to protect against further attacks not offensive.
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too bad he cant send them to the rio grande's north bank
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yep. The enemy of my enemy....
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


new russian missile is insane fast
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


China isn't above using another country to further its' own ambitions.

They do it with NK all of the time.
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


China isn't above using another country to further its' own ambitions.

They do it with NK all of the time.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Keep in mind that whole region from India thru Iran all the way to Georgia, is part of the Trillion dollar silk road project.
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200 million man army in Revelation 9???

You have to know, that China, Russia, Iran and many other countries are all part of it.
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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200 million man army in Revelation 9???

You have to know, that China, Russia, Iran and many other countries are all part of it.
 Quoting: Jake


Whether people believe in that or not, so many just don't get the concept of WORLD war.

smh
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Russia doesn't seem to be doing anything about all those Israeli strikes on Iranian forces in Syria. So I don't think they'll defend Iran. The most they'll do is whine about it and wave their fists at us but that's about it, unless they want to start World War 3.
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World Wars I and II started because of one small, regional incident too.

It's never smart to underestimate your enemies. The best of friends are made during the most frightening of circumstances.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


from what I have been reading China is building an amphibious Navy/Military faster than Japan did in the lead up to WW2.

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Let's be honest...

No one country can know absolutely everything another country has going on covertly.
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Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


from what I have been reading China is building an amphibious Navy/Military faster than Japan did in the lead up to WW2.
 Quoting: Jake


China has a naval base in Djibouti and who knows what skunkworks they can project ... covert minelaying or other ops.

never did believe the bullshit about their buildup being a humanitarian project
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Absolutely correct.

Remember, Iran has mutual defense treaty with Russia.

If we attack first, Russia is obligated by treaty to step in.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


from what I have been reading China is building an amphibious Navy/Military faster than Japan did in the lead up to WW2.
 Quoting: Jake


They are definitely working on it, but how good are they, do you think?

Haven't fought a major war in a very long time, no officers or NCO with combat experience.

There are many factors but like I said, I'm praying for peace.

Chinas military may be untested but I still wouldn't really want to find out how good they are unless I had to.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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Let's be honest...

No one country can know absolutely everything another country has going on covertly.
 Quoting: ~Jazz~


This is true.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


from what I have been reading China is building an amphibious Navy/Military faster than Japan did in the lead up to WW2.
 Quoting: Jake


China has a naval base in Djibouti and who knows what skunkworks they can project ... covert minelaying or other ops.

never did believe the bullshit about their buildup being a humanitarian project
 Quoting: dodger007


China and Russia are building 450 Military bases north

of America in the Arctic... Something big is Coming.

I think there is still a video of Mike Pompeo talking about it on youtube
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I'm more concerned with China, their comment today about opening Pandora's box, was a subtle threat.
 Quoting: Jake


The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


from what I have been reading China is building an amphibious Navy/Military faster than Japan did in the lead up to WW2.
 Quoting: Jake


They are definitely working on it, but how good are they, do you think?

Haven't fought a major war in a very long time, no officers or NCO with combat experience.

There are many factors but like I said, I'm praying for peace.

Chinas military may be untested but I still wouldn't really want to find out how good they are unless I had to.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Well much like the Korean war, China literally has hundreds of millions of fighting age men, and the Chinese
government considers them all expendable for the greater cause.
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The problem with China is they are a defense only military, they have no way to project power, no navy transports or too many aircraft to bring their millions of troops anywhere.

Russia, on the other hand, does have massive airlift capability.

They could have 10,000 Spetznaz and paratroopers on the ground in 36 hours with armor support and they are formidable, let me just tell you.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


from what I have been reading China is building an amphibious Navy/Military faster than Japan did in the lead up to WW2.
 Quoting: Jake


They are definitely working on it, but how good are they, do you think?

Haven't fought a major war in a very long time, no officers or NCO with combat experience.

There are many factors but like I said, I'm praying for peace.

Chinas military may be untested but I still wouldn't really want to find out how good they are unless I had to.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Well much like the Korean war, China literally has hundreds of millions of fighting age men, and the Chinese
government considers them all expendable for the greater cause.
 Quoting: Jake


I wouldn't want to fight them unless I had to.

They must look like a horde of locusts on the battlefield.
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