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Do the universal mathematical patterns reveal a divine mathematician. or deny him, substituting simple random chance ?

 
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Do the universal mathematical patterns reveal a divine mathematician. or deny him, substituting simple random chance ?
Don't man's mathematics and science attempt to measure, reveal, and explain the divine mathematicians intentions, in spite of mortal finite limitations?



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Re: Do the universal mathematical patterns reveal a divine mathematician. or deny him, substituting simple random chance ?
We have established that you put little faith in the theory of evolution....

So I ask you this....

Give us an alternative... Give us your interpretation of this wonderous reality and make it truthful.

Go on DGN have some balls, we need a good laugh.

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Still waiting for a reply....

Instead of just attacking others over their beliefs let's discuss the merit of yours....

Then we can decide if you're 'holier than thou' attitude is justified.

How about it Steve?

Like I said I believe in God so act accordingly....
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We have established that you put little faith in the theory of evolution....

So I ask you this....

Give us an alternative... Give us your interpretation of this wonderous reality and make it truthful.

Go on DGN have some balls, we need a good laugh.

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Still waiting for a reply....

Instead of just attacking others over their beliefs let's discuss the merit of yours....

Then we can decide if you're 'holier than thou' attitude is justified.

How about it Steve?

Like I said I believe in God so act accordingly....
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Does precision order, form, and function reveal random chance happenstance or deliberate intentional manipulation? Here's a clue;

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We have established that you put little faith in the theory of evolution....

So I ask you this....

Give us an alternative... Give us your interpretation of this wonderous reality and make it truthful.

Go on DGN have some balls, we need a good laugh.

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Still waiting for a reply....

Instead of just attacking others over their beliefs let's discuss the merit of yours....

Then we can decide if you're 'holier than thou' attitude is justified.

How about it Steve?

Like I said I believe in God so act accordingly....
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Does precision order, form, and function reveal random chance happenstance or deliberate intentional manipulation? Here's a clue;

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You really are a broken toy aren't you.
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Re: Do the universal mathematical patterns reveal a divine mathematician. or deny him, substituting simple random chance ?
We have established that you put little faith in the theory of evolution....

So I ask you this....

Give us an alternative... Give us your interpretation of this wonderous reality and make it truthful.

Go on DGN have some balls, we need a good laugh.

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Still waiting for a reply....

Instead of just attacking others over their beliefs let's discuss the merit of yours....

Then we can decide if you're 'holier than thou' attitude is justified.

How about it Steve?

Like I said I believe in God so act accordingly....
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Does precision order, form, and function reveal random chance happenstance or deliberate intentional manipulation? Here's a clue;

 Quoting: DGN


You really are a broken toy aren't you.
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I must be, I don't get order from random chance. For example, was this magnificent mechanism deliberately assembled or did it just self form by luck?

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No math needed, God just reaches into his bag of tricks, ya know, like THIS guy

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Re: Do the universal mathematical patterns reveal a divine mathematician. or deny him, substituting simple random chance ?
No math needed, God just reaches into his bag of tricks, ya know, like THIS guy


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O H y e a h like the sky wizard with gray beard thingy, I remember! Like Adam from dust but... no assembly required just that ...POOF thingy?
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No math needed, God just reaches into his bag of tricks, ya know, like THIS guy


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O H y e a h like the sky wizard with gray beard thingy, I remember! Like Adam from dust but... no assembly required just that ...POOF thingy?
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YEP

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Bat shit crazy.
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Hey, you bible thumping tard, the Universe doesn't do math, --- people do. Have you got that?
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You know clouds right....their patterns are random would you agree? Well there is no divine intervention on the shape of a cloud is there?
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Do NOT look for the creator.

Respect it's creations and admire them but don't try to find it.

The creator has a set of rules in that its creations MUST work by the instructions that they were given.

If they don't they are destroyed.

Look at it this way. If man gets too nosy.

He will be destroyed.
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You know clouds right....their patterns are random would you agree? Well there is no divine intervention on the shape of a cloud is there?
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Yes there is.

Everything in this world is there for a reason but doesn't always have an obvious purpose.

What is important to a human being may seem worthless to another being
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Still waiting for a reply....

Instead of just attacking others over their beliefs let's discuss the merit of yours....

Then we can decide if you're 'holier than thou' attitude is justified.

How about it Steve?

Like I said I believe in God so act accordingly....
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Does precision order, form, and function reveal random chance happenstance or deliberate intentional manipulation? Here's a clue;

 Quoting: DGN


You really are a broken toy aren't you.
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I must be, I don't get order from random chance. For example, was this magnificent mechanism deliberately assembled or did it just self form by luck?

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My dear, order from random chance is what your body does every .5 seconds to interpret the "world" around you.





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You know clouds right....their patterns are random would you agree? Well there is no divine intervention on the shape of a cloud is there?
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Clouds have patterns? No need for precision form to function, they just need to carry water over land to rain on car shows, Hot August Nights, chickens. picnics etc.

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Is math the mind of God?

Perhaps. Perhaps it's something else entirely.
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Is math the mind of God?

Perhaps. Perhaps it's something else entirely.
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No the universal mathematical patterns of creation are merely a reflection of divine knowledge which mortal science will never be able to catch up with and measure. Some marvel at applaud infinite knowledge, others feeling miniscule in comparison resent and deny it. Strange how self defining resentment is. no?
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You know clouds right....their patterns are random would you agree? Well there is no divine intervention on the shape of a cloud is there?
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Except clouds would not exist if God had not created the water cycle
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Seems paradoxical to me. How can one argue against perceived fitness? Well, the same way you argue for it. It's perception. You either see design or you see random. It all depends on perception.

Was math discovered or invented?
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Seems paradoxical to me. How can one argue against perceived fitness? Well, the same way you argue for it. It's perception. You either see design or you see random. It all depends on perception.

Was math discovered or invented?
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Man has barely begun to discover God's math.

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Is math the mind of God?

Perhaps. Perhaps it's something else entirely.
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No the universal mathematical patterns of creation are merely a reflection of divine knowledge which mortal science will never be able to catch up with and measure. Some marvel at applaud infinite knowledge, others feeling miniscule in comparison resent and deny it. Strange how self defining resentment is. no?
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This makes no sense to me.

Patterns are, by definition, mathematical constructs. What you choose to read from these patterns is your concern. I don't attempt to argue otherwise.

I see just nature. No divine (except for the natural wonder). The divine is a concept of man, not nature.

Why?
There is no evidence of a supernatural superior being who created all. None. Simply belief.

Belief does not imply truth.
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Is math the mind of God?

Perhaps. Perhaps it's something else entirely.
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No the universal mathematical patterns of creation are merely a reflection of divine knowledge which mortal science will never be able to catch up with and measure. Some marvel at applaud infinite knowledge, others feeling miniscule in comparison resent and deny it. Strange how self defining resentment is. no?
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This makes no sense to me.

Patterns are, by definition, mathematical constructs. What you choose to read from these patterns is your concern. I don't attempt to argue otherwise.

I see just nature. No divine (except for the natural wonder). The divine is a concept of man, not nature.

Why?
There is no evidence of a supernatural superior being who created all. None. Simply belief.

Belief does not imply truth.
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Scientific observation recognizes order, precision form and function, belief in deliberate intelligent intention and design. Failure to so conclude is a failure of mind and soul, scientific illiteracy and hopelessness.
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Seems paradoxical to me. How can one argue against perceived fitness? Well, the same way you argue for it. It's perception. You either see design or you see random. It all depends on perception.

Was math discovered or invented?
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Patterns in creation reveal God's thoughts and calculations, the precision knowledge of his divine craftsmanship.
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our population is close to reaching the 49th number of the Fibonacci sequence which is 7778742049

which is...

Wisdom is needed here. Let the one with understanding solve the meaning of the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.

777-874-2049

11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice:

7,778,742,049


777=father son holy spirit

8=eternity

7=lamb

420=elders

49=four beast and the number of man.

7778742049
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it is estimated to be 500 million souls away until the great harvest of the "unit"
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Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. Luke 12:7
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And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God? But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Luke 12:4-7
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And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof Revelation 5:5

number 1 : 7 = Father
number 2: 7 = Son
number 3 : 7 = Holy Spirit
number 4 : 8 = Eternity
number 5 : 7 = Lamb
number 6 : 420 = Elders
number 7 : 49 = Four beasts (the number of man)

the 10 heads are

#1=7
#2=7
#3=7
#4=8
#5=7
#6=4
#7=2
#8=0
#9=4
#10=9
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Do NOT look for the creator.

Respect it's creations and admire them but don't try to find it.

The creator has a set of rules in that its creations MUST work by the instructions that they were given.

If they don't they are destroyed.

Look at it this way. If man gets too nosy.

He will be destroyed.



**** I wish the narcissisticientest at CERN would
SEE this and realize their damn fallacy!