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Seer777
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Hello Paler. I was thinking of you yesterday. :)

It was lovely. With that said, I had no understanding of what I was about to experience. My life, experiences, understanding up to that point, only offering the very slightest of 'tools' to work with.

I explained it like being 'left naked and blindfolded in a Labyrinth'. And as scary as that sounds, it was. But also ultimate bliss, connection...indescribable really.

In the end it was Intuition and my exceedingly strong Will which got me through. Also assistance from the many I met along the way.


I do need to pick of meditating again. I think of it often. Not sure why I don't go there...
 Quoting: Seer777

hi Seer,
yes it can be quite magical, like such things it cant be forced, only when you are ready.

you think of it often,. you like mind enquiry:) maybe more heart enquiry might be of interest, for a change... :)
maybe bring the mind into the heart:)

 Quoting: paler.


:)

I do think a lot. lol. I caught myself the other day, living in the Future/Past and brought my awareness back to the Now.

So easy to fall back into old habits.

Your words are like a fresh breeze, Paler.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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The whole concept of trying to flee from physical existence stems from the failure to obtain the common goals of man and that is to make a family unit
When incredible resistance have been proven from within and without, people try to find shortcuts or at least peace or some hidden knowledge that can help them attain just basic needs, but that is a trap, as there is malignant beings in high places/the mind that also try to sabotage normal life

So we come to the conclusion that both the mind and the physical world is working against people, and now we seek to trust God almighty because we realize we can do nothing with him
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Stop smoking.

Everything else is moot.

Until you do that.
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The whole concept of trying to flee from physical existence stems from the failure to obtain the common goals of man and that is to make a family unit
When incredible resistance have been proven from within and without, people try to find shortcuts or at least peace or some hidden knowledge that can help them attain just basic needs, but that is a trap, as there is malignant beings in high places/the mind that also try to sabotage normal life

So we come to the conclusion that both the mind and the physical world is working against people, and now we seek to trust God almighty because we realize we can do nothing with him
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Should have written without him, if i could write sorry about that
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Just energies...You don't have to be scared...
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Like how you don't hear the noise of a dog whistle or see infared light... They are hidden to YOU but they are there
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1000 petaled lotus in the crown, to feel it open is quite lovely, just as there is 12 petaled flower in the heart, put hand on heart and ask how many petals of the heart have you open? you will know how many, it is a feeling, a knowing,when all opened you flow in Joy :)

"and do seek to fix what I feel are ignored and or forgotten energy centers."
if you really wished to fix this it would be fixed maybe, read words you wrote :)
more focus on them, more awareness, practice energy work, feel it flowing to the lower centers, practice it with breath and meditations.
 Quoting: paler.


Interesting. Because of my smoking, my heart is super clogged...well not clogged..daily I am trying to burn out the residue, I am able to feel and be compassionate, but there is still a heavyness I wish was gone. I have read a lot of oriental work mentioning these centers. Thanks for sharing.
 Quoting: ParadoxMind

you are very much in mind my friend, which can clog you up and tie you in knots, searching for answers through the mind, is never ending, the threads keep going , forming, its a game we play :)
unclog your self by working on releasing thoughtforms, breaking the threads that pull, think less and feel more,
with a quiet mind and an open heart, you may come to clarity and less heaviness :)
your heart should be light as a feather :)
 Quoting: paler.


Pretty much the most wise thing I have read so far. I know this, but continue to venture the unsolvable hedge maze. Why? They say suffering brings enlightenment...Maybe my age has something to do with it...or just my ego in general. Thanks man, keeping me on the right path.

But...doing this I become unattached...but I hurt so bad from the energy friction in my body...its why I keep resisting mostly...I can only take the pain for so long :[
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heh, we torture ourselfves endlessly, till we are ready to not :)
like your smoking is in ways a sign, that you have little regard for you, i smoked a lot too :) maybe it is related to self love, sit more with your heart in quiet space and feel it, observe yourself more instead of observing mind stuff :) stop chasing ideas, chase butterflies in the park, eat ice cream and be gentle with your heart, practice breathing more, be conscious of breathing when your mind goes into over drive, bring it back to gentle ease :)

heres a very simple thing. walk on a path and observe yourt se3lf, lots of thought forms coming and going like the clouds above, you latch on to one and walk with it, it could be one of guilt or worthiness etc, anyways your walking, now move to the edge of the kerb and walk along the edge, walk there for a while, notice your eyes are focused on the edge as you hold your balance, the thoughts you were carrying are gone as they are nothing but noise :) now move to center of path and try hold that clarity of mind, and when you have clarity, you can start to see the world aroubnd you again , you can start to see you, you can start to sense and feel things more, you be come energiesed, the world opens up again and ease of being maybe returns, smile and be gentle on you.

you can choose a life of chasing shadows and potentials and possibilities and questions or you can live a life now, this moment, being present and that is my present to you :)
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Stop smoking.

Everything else is moot.

Until you do that.
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The whole concept of trying to flee from physical existence stems from the failure to obtain the common goals of man and that is to make a family unit
When incredible resistance have been proven from within and without, people try to find shortcuts or at least peace or some hidden knowledge that can help them attain just basic needs, but that is a trap, as there is malignant beings in high places/the mind that also try to sabotage normal life

So we come to the conclusion that both the mind and the physical world is working against people, and now we seek to trust God almighty because we realize we can do nothing with him
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Should have written without him, if i could write sorry about that
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Just energies...You don't have to be scared...
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Im not scared im angry
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I was a smoker when all this started and only recently quit. About 3 months ago.

For myself, the cigarettes are what to help keep me sane. Or at least some semblance of sanity.

When drowning in a sea of synchronicity, the overwhelming nature of dissonance and 'restacking' my 'belief system', I found they would calm me and give me a sense of control over my environment.

Much has settled now and the storms I once experienced daily are not nearly as severe. So I decided it was time to quit. It has been easy for me and I don't think about it. But I did have to make the choice for myself.


Yes. The energy IS a tangible force and I love that you experience 'The Pops'. They are very distinct and occur with thought. There is a slight squeeze before the pop that will be noticeable if very vigilant.

It would be seen as a waveform. Colors perhaps relating to temperature.
 Quoting: Seer777


If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Age seems slightly relevant to the attachment of the material realm. Jews will not begin spiritually training someone until they are in their 30s for this very reason. I am 25...getting there :P

But yeah, sanity...I prefer madness over sanity but the smokes do keep my madness in check. Lmfao.

Yes! I have caught myself being aggressive towards the environment because of its reflection and synchronicity...it used to feel like schizophrenic paranoia before I understood what was going on. As I write this the T.V. in the living room mimics things I focus on. Sometimes I wonder if the universe is trolling me.

I would have to slow down to see the squeeze, usually it happens and I just chuckle because I don't anticipate or look for it. I just let go and enter my nothing zone and my energy peaks and things go pop. lol.

Full spectrum...yes that is what the void feels like...all things to the point it is nothing at all...idk :S Words do not help it.
 Quoting: ParadoxMind


I am 37. I was born on 17th in 77, and the reason I have '777' in my member name.

I think it is more maturity than age but I was 34 when it started as I have described and following years meditation, seeking and study.


I know exactly what you mean about the synchronicity. Hard NOT to feel crazy and targeted at times. Indeed, lol.


Have you notice the 'pops' coincide with a sudden thought stream you find yourself on, which leads to new understanding?

For a long time I considered a force outside of myself that was giving me a physical manifestation of its presence, in correlation to my thoughts. Or IOW, like a guide giving me a cue to say, Now you got it, keep going...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Hello Paler. I was thinking of you yesterday. :)

It was lovely. With that said, I had no understanding of what I was about to experience. My life, experiences, understanding up to that point, only offering the very slightest of 'tools' to work with.

I explained it like being 'left naked and blindfolded in a Labyrinth'. And as scary as that sounds, it was. But also ultimate bliss, connection...indescribable really.

In the end it was Intuition and my exceedingly strong Will which got me through. Also assistance from the many I met along the way.


I do need to pick of meditating again. I think of it often. Not sure why I don't go there...
 Quoting: Seer777

hi Seer,
yes it can be quite magical, like such things it cant be forced, only when you are ready.

you think of it often,. you like mind enquiry:) maybe more heart enquiry might be of interest, for a change... :)
maybe bring the mind into the heart:)

 Quoting: paler.


:)

I do think a lot. lol. I caught myself the other day, living in the Future/Past and brought my awareness back to the Now.

So easy to fall back into old habits.

Your words are like a fresh breeze, Paler.
 Quoting: Seer777

your most welcome :)

you know Seer, some day, anyday, you can stop the car, get out, and trade places with that little child in the back that sings and smiles and laughs,even better, leave the car and go to the park. never loose the essence of being.
let the heart lead the way, become childlike :)
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The whole concept of trying to flee from physical existence stems from the failure to obtain the common goals of man and that is to make a family unit
When incredible resistance have been proven from within and without, people try to find shortcuts or at least peace or some hidden knowledge that can help them attain just basic needs, but that is a trap, as there is malignant beings in high places/the mind that also try to sabotage normal life

So we come to the conclusion that both the mind and the physical world is working against people, and now we seek to trust God almighty because we realize we can do nothing with him
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Should have written without him, if i could write sorry about that
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Just energies...You don't have to be scared...
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Im not scared im angry
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Now watch it there. Your ego doesn't like what it sees or hears
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Should have written without him, if i could write sorry about that
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Just energies...You don't have to be scared...
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Im not scared im angry
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Now watch it there. Your ego doesn't like what it sees or hears
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To just wrap the word ego around every problem has become most convenient has it not?
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I am 37. I was born on 17th in 77, and the reason I have '777' in my member name.

I think it is more maturity than age but I was 34 when it started as I have described and following years meditation, seeking and study.


I know exactly what you mean about the synchronicity. Hard NOT to feel crazy and targeted at times. Indeed, lol.


Have you notice the 'pops' coincide with a sudden thought stream you find yourself on, which leads to new understanding?

For a long time I considered a force outside of myself that was giving me a physical manifestation of its presence, in correlation to my thoughts. Or IOW, like a guide giving me a cue to say, Now you got it, keep going...
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah that makes me feel better. :]

To be honest I have not payed attention to the pops and my thoughts although I have had the same relation to activity in my surroundings in correlation with my thoughts as if the world is in a wave pool and things happen in a connective flow...
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Hear the ascended masters talking to you...

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Just energies...You don't have to be scared...
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Im not scared im angry
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Now watch it there. Your ego doesn't like what it sees or hears
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To just wrap the word ego around every problem has become most convenient has it not?
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Yes people these days are full of pride...
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Alright I tore up my last pack of smokes. I am already in the mode to quit as I was clean for a few days prior to yesterday so it should be easy to get back in that groove...the problem is I have done this at least a 100 times (hyperbole probably).

I need to switch the habit of smoking when I need energy with something else...not food. >.<
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Young and patient...
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heh, we torture ourselfves endlessly, till we are ready to not :)
like your smoking is in ways a sign, that you have little regard for you, i smoked a lot too :) maybe it is related to self love, sit more with your heart in quiet space and feel it, observe yourself more instead of observing mind stuff :) stop chasing ideas, chase butterflies in the park, eat ice cream and be gentle with your heart, practice breathing more, be conscious of breathing when your mind goes into over drive, bring it back to gentle ease :)

heres a very simple thing. walk on a path and observe yourt se3lf, lots of thought forms coming and going like the clouds above, you latch on to one and walk with it, it could be one of guilt or worthiness etc, anyways your walking, now move to the edge of the kerb and walk along the edge, walk there for a while, notice your eyes are focused on the edge as you hold your balance, the thoughts you were carrying are gone as they are nothing but noise :) now move to center of path and try hold that clarity of mind, and when you have clarity, you can start to see the world aroubnd you again , you can start to see you, you can start to sense and feel things more, you be come energiesed, the world opens up again and ease of being maybe returns, smile and be gentle on you.

you can choose a life of chasing shadows and potentials and possibilities and questions or you can live a life now, this moment, being present and that is my present to you :)
 Quoting: paler.


I have derived most of this myself, it is just me clinging to habits that drain my energy and I seek the old habit of smoking to gain energy albeit it a negative energy. Its mainly just being daft and running from the pain without using the knowledge and understanding I already came to. I guess I am still an ignorant fool at best. :D
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Its a life long struggle...
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Its a life long struggle...
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I would rather it not be in the near future.

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People are different... There is always bigger problems
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Working for others is the ultimate goal... Restoring the soular order...
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Energy never gets destroyed... When you exert the effort to think about something, that energy is transferred to that object. People are very negative these days. That's why you need to pray, to replenish your good energy so you can fight off the demons...
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And then there are the people who just worry about themselves and keep to themselves. That is fine.
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Greetings Paradox

hi
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I am 37. I was born on 17th in 77, and the reason I have '777' in my member name.

I think it is more maturity than age but I was 34 when it started as I have described and following years meditation, seeking and study.


I know exactly what you mean about the synchronicity. Hard NOT to feel crazy and targeted at times. Indeed, lol.


Have you notice the 'pops' coincide with a sudden thought stream you find yourself on, which leads to new understanding?

For a long time I considered a force outside of myself that was giving me a physical manifestation of its presence, in correlation to my thoughts. Or IOW, like a guide giving me a cue to say, Now you got it, keep going...
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah that makes me feel better. :]

To be honest I have not payed attention to the pops and my thoughts although I have had the same relation to activity in my surroundings in correlation with my thoughts as if the world is in a wave pool and things happen in a connective flow...
 Quoting: ParadoxMind


Well said.

I called it 'The Ripple'. And everyone has their own. How they impress on the 'pool' of what we call 'reality' depends on our individual intent, will, and direction of the manifest Energy.

It moves out and touches the all as far as momentum allows.


I made this gif last Summer to describe both the 'bounce' and the 'field'. And all of 'us' bouncing on it, connecting to each other through our ripples.
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Sauce:

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@1:11

TheRipples
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Greetings Paradox

hi
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Hey wolfy haven't emailed you in a while. How you been?
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hi Seer,
yes it can be quite magical, like such things it cant be forced, only when you are ready.

you think of it often,. you like mind enquiry:) maybe more heart enquiry might be of interest, for a change... :)
maybe bring the mind into the heart:)

 Quoting: paler.


:)

I do think a lot. lol. I caught myself the other day, living in the Future/Past and brought my awareness back to the Now.

So easy to fall back into old habits.

Your words are like a fresh breeze, Paler.
 Quoting: Seer777

your most welcome :)

you know Seer, some day, anyday, you can stop the car, get out, and trade places with that little child in the back that sings and smiles and laughs,even better, leave the car and go to the park. never loose the essence of being.
let the heart lead the way, become childlike :)

 Quoting: paler.


You know why I sing in the car? Because I know no one can hear me, but me. Thinking further, I am only truly comfortable singing in front of children.

So I think that is why I look on said so fondly. To be able to share something I love so much, with someone who not only would not judge me, but join in.

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I am 37. I was born on 17th in 77, and the reason I have '777' in my member name.

I think it is more maturity than age but I was 34 when it started as I have described and following years meditation, seeking and study.


I know exactly what you mean about the synchronicity. Hard NOT to feel crazy and targeted at times. Indeed, lol.


Have you notice the 'pops' coincide with a sudden thought stream you find yourself on, which leads to new understanding?

For a long time I considered a force outside of myself that was giving me a physical manifestation of its presence, in correlation to my thoughts. Or IOW, like a guide giving me a cue to say, Now you got it, keep going...
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah that makes me feel better. :]

To be honest I have not payed attention to the pops and my thoughts although I have had the same relation to activity in my surroundings in correlation with my thoughts as if the world is in a wave pool and things happen in a connective flow...
 Quoting: ParadoxMind


Well said.

I called it 'The Ripple'. And everyone has their own. How they impress on the 'pool' of what we call 'reality' depends on our individual intent, will, and direction of the manifest Energy.

It moves out and touches the all as far as momentum allows.


I made this gif last Summer to describe both the 'bounce' and the 'field'. And all of 'us' bouncing on it, connecting to each other through our ripples.
[link to share.gifyoutube.com]

Sauce:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
@1:11

:TheRipples:
 Quoting: Seer777


That is actually a very good representation of what it feels like. :D Thanks for that!

Gosh with all the negativity on this forum its amazing people like you frequent here. I guess it cant all be bad though!





GLP