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Does the global elite not care about their actions because they know there is no afterlife?

 
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Does the global elite not care about their actions because they know there is no afterlife?
Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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Correct, and according to some people, humans are bacon
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Yeah, unfortunately it seems far more likely than any other interpretation. They seem to be hardcore atheists and know they're right.
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My thoughts?

They are on a different timeline/length of life than the rest of us and probably not human.

Some of the deliberate destruction of this planet, turning it into a place inhospitable to the native flora and fauna screams of terraforming.

A lot of people think they are subterranean dwellers, maybe they are trying to make the surface a bit more hospitable to themselves and 'people' like them.

They clearly think in terms that go well beyond the lifespan of your average human.

What if the Annunaki never left - they just kind of hide out in plain site and have us do their bidding.

Maybe they're making this place more suitable for their biological needs.
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My thoughts?

They are on a different timeline/length of life than the rest of us and probably not human.

Some of the deliberate destruction of this planet, turning it into a place inhospitable to the native flora and fauna screams of terraforming.

A lot of people think they are subterranean dwellers, maybe they are trying to make the surface a bit more hospitable to themselves and 'people' like them.

They clearly think in terms that go well beyond the lifespan of your average human.

What if the Annunaki never left - they just kind of hide out in plain site and have us do their bidding.

Maybe they're making this place more suitable for their biological needs.
 Quoting: Whore of Babylon


Good point, it'd be interesting to ask the Anunnaki if they're atheists - or not.
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They're not athiests at all.

That fear they keep over their minions, who sell it all out for comfy spots in this life, not believing in the next.

They're not Christians, or religious in the normal sense, though some are religious in their dark gnostic beliefs.

They know 100%, operate on a higher level of pineal awareness, in another plain, and here. At least some of them do.

Some of them, the mid management, is convinced they're doing the right thing, but basically, they've settled to lord it over lower realms, and possibly risk screwing up with their karma system, (and that karma system is not ours, and we don't really belong in it, its theirs, though they try to hard sell those heavy self remorse to us, to trap us, when its about healing and understanding and progressing, falling into lower spots, they still think they'll just stick around in the lower realm and stay here, not pass grade to the next level.

They are convinced, they won't be caught in facing Higher Power for what they've done, but instead, be given their reward and promotion for the bad deeds by their renegade solar mismanagement group, ie Saturn/Venus.
The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist.
The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
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My thoughts?

They are on a different timeline/length of life than the rest of us and probably not human.

Some of the deliberate destruction of this planet, turning it into a place inhospitable to the native flora and fauna screams of terraforming.

A lot of people think they are subterranean dwellers, maybe they are trying to make the surface a bit more hospitable to themselves and 'people' like them.

They clearly think in terms that go well beyond the lifespan of your average human.

What if the Annunaki never left - they just kind of hide out in plain site and have us do their bidding.

Maybe they're making this place more suitable for their biological needs.
 Quoting: Whore of Babylon


Good point, it'd be interesting to ask the Anunnaki if they're atheists - or not.
 Quoting: hmmm 68923450


Well, if it's to be believed, the Annunaki put into the human's heads the original idea that something with the power to create life was deity.
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They're not athiests at all.

That fear they keep over their minions, who sell it all out for comfy spots in this life, not believing in the next.

They're not Christians, or religious in the normal sense, though some are religious in their dark gnostic beliefs.

They know 100%, operate on a higher level of pineal awareness, in another plain, and here. At least some of them do.

Some of them, the mid management, is convinced they're doing the right thing, but basically, they've settled to lord it over lower realms, and possibly risk screwing up with their karma system, (and that karma system is not ours, and we don't really belong in it, its theirs, though they try to hard sell those heavy self remorse to us, to trap us, when its about healing and understanding and progressing, falling into lower spots, they still think they'll just stick around in the lower realm and stay here, not pass grade to the next level.

They are convinced, they won't be caught in facing Higher Power for what they've done, but instead, be given their reward and promotion for the bad deeds by their renegade solar mismanagement group, ie Saturn/Venus.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn



Karma seems to be an artificial concept, as it makes the universe fascist - exactly what the handlers want. The idea of ''light'' appears to be some sort of a trap, as well. Recycling, maybe? Which'd be equally as bas as oblivion.
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The children of the serpent already know there is no eternal life for them. They can't be saved and there was never a promise of an afterlife for them.
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They know there is no afterlife so they say fuck it and do what they want. I suppose they are really smart in that regard.
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They know there is no afterlife so they say fuck it and do what they want. I suppose they are really smart in that regard.
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High level masons claiming lucifer as god would suggest otherwise. They do the bidding of their father.
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Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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To trade your soul for a limited time of pleasure for an eternity of damnnation...
This is the consequence of the action.
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Re: Does the global elite not care about their actions because they know there is no afterlife?
Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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To trade your soul for a limited time of pleasure for an eternity of damnnation...
This is the consequence of the action.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


No evidence whatsoever. The fact remains, when you pass out - that's something you can measure. Not eternal damnation. Court case for eternal damnation: non-existence. For brain/body dynamic: strong.
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Re: Does the global elite not care about their actions because they know there is no afterlife?
Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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To trade your soul for a limited time of pleasure for an eternity of damnnation...
This is the consequence of the action.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


No evidence whatsoever. The fact remains, when you pass out - that's something you can measure. Not eternal damnation. Court case for eternal damnation: non-existence. For brain/body dynamic: strong.
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You might want to delve a bit deeper if you believe there's a lack of evidence.
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I suspect they are spiritually ignorant and consumed by base desires (power, greed, control, material gain)... They have a lot of learning (growing) to do...
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Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
 Quoting: hmmmmm 68923450



To trade your soul for a limited time of pleasure for an eternity of damnnation...
This is the consequence of the action.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


No evidence whatsoever. The fact remains, when you pass out - that's something you can measure. Not eternal damnation. Court case for eternal damnation: non-existence. For brain/body dynamic: strong.
 Quoting: hmmm 68928901



You might want to delve a bit deeper if you believe there's a lack of evidence.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Youtube recordings, you mean? The debate rages on at best - nothing concrete. Science blows it all out of the water. Consciousness may indeed be eternal, but eternal damnation - sick fuck's wet dream.
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To trade your soul for a limited time of pleasure for an eternity of damnnation...
This is the consequence of the action.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


No evidence whatsoever. The fact remains, when you pass out - that's something you can measure. Not eternal damnation. Court case for eternal damnation: non-existence. For brain/body dynamic: strong.
 Quoting: hmmm 68928901



You might want to delve a bit deeper if you believe there's a lack of evidence.
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Youtube recordings, you mean? The debate rages on at best - nothing concrete. Science blows it all out of the water. Consciousness may indeed be eternal, but eternal damnation - sick fuck's wet dream.
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I got quite a laugh out of that, thanks.
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No evidence whatsoever. The fact remains, when you pass out - that's something you can measure. Not eternal damnation. Court case for eternal damnation: non-existence. For brain/body dynamic: strong.
 Quoting: hmmm 68928901



You might want to delve a bit deeper if you believe there's a lack of evidence.
 Quoting: Occasionally Swears


Youtube recordings, you mean? The debate rages on at best - nothing concrete. Science blows it all out of the water. Consciousness may indeed be eternal, but eternal damnation - sick fuck's wet dream.
 Quoting: hmmm 68928901


I got quite a laugh out of that, thanks.
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Welcome. Laughter sumps up mainstream religious tenets perfectly.
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You might want to delve a bit deeper if you believe there's a lack of evidence.
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Youtube recordings, you mean? The debate rages on at best - nothing concrete. Science blows it all out of the water. Consciousness may indeed be eternal, but eternal damnation - sick fuck's wet dream.
 Quoting: hmmm 68928901


I got quite a laugh out of that, thanks.
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Welcome. Laughter sumps up mainstream religious tenets perfectly.
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Because if you can't understand it, it must be false;
What a perfectly logical person you are.

/threadexit
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Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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I think a lot of them live under the illusion they have secret knowledge that will allow them to be immortal.

And so, being the enlightened ones they imagine, they see themselves as above the run-of-mill morality that guides the behaviour of the less knowing.
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i think they do know about an afterlife and they'll do anything to avoid theirs.
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No, they know Karma is a bitch. Think Katy Perry Dark Horse.

Read the Hidden Hand stuff. It might shine some light on this for you.

They are supposedly trying for a "negative polarity" " harvest"

Might be BS, but since you asked.. Check it out.
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You are only human.
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I suspect they are spiritually ignorant and consumed by base desires (power, greed, control, material gain)... They have a lot of learning (growing) to do...
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A large majority are controlled only to satisfy there own needs,it is very rare that a person can look past the present when controlled by a profit motive versus a sustainability motive,the way the elite piss off this world should cause a large portion of the world to question why they seem to have no empathy or concern for the humans that reside here,I would be tempted to believe that maybe we are all not of the same species otherwise there would be more concern for the damage these things do.
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Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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They believe their children are their afterlife.
They have wealth because they inherit it from their previous lives which is their parents.
Memories are written in DNA.
That's how we have reflexes.
We have been here for millions of years.
We cheat death by having children.
By choosing not to have children is suicide.
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They know there is no afterlife so they say fuck it and do what they want. I suppose they are really smart in that regard.
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Bullshit.

Everything is recorded, regardless. Serve good and leave a legacy thus, no gift of afterlife is needed for God to work through you by good deeds!
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Is it possible the global elite just doesn't care about their actions, not only because they're psychopaths, but mainly due to the fact there is no afterlife, so there's no force to punish them/fear? What if their religious institutions are actually instruments of deception to keep the masses in the dark and keep the bigget secret under wraps: there is no soul, no afterlife, just here and now? We're temporarily conscious pieces of meat?
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No one living knows for certain that there is or is not an afterlife.
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They don't have the capacity to care. We have a mixture of upper and lower density spirits in human bodies here. They know this is a temporary state, and one of their true punishments is their lack of a higher consciousness and ability to evolve, living in a state of parasitism and slavery. They don't feel love or real joy. They have zero freedom, are completely subservient to their hierarchy, the pyramid structure, with the elites at the top and minions below. Humans are unwittingly their minions temporarily, along with their family members.

Religions were put in place to control the masses, but do contain elements of truth so our minds would recognize on a subconscious level what we forgot, and also accept the lies interwoven with the truth. We are spirits having a physical experience.
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I occasionally think about it this way...

If time travel has ever, or will ever exist in our future, it currently exists in the NOW. And has always existed.


Eternity is an ineffably LONG Time, to keep from boredom.


Consider further, that we are in a type of holographic or digitized type existence, subject to the 5+ senses. Then it can be imagined, that at sometime in the future, Mankind due his failure at 'Proving the existence God' and the difficultly seen therein through the history of Religion, chooses to remove from question, The Afterlife.

We then packaged, enhanced and digitized our own 'consciousnesses', uploaded them, and now exist eternally on some type of looping scenario we call 'reality'.

Also potentially known as, AI.

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I occasionally think about it this way...

If time travel has ever, or will ever exist in our future, it currently exists in the NOW. And has always existed.


Eternity is an ineffably LONG Time, to keep from boredom.


Consider further, that we are in a type of holographic or digitized type existence, subject to the 5+ senses. Then it can be imagined, that at sometime in the future, Mankind due his failure at 'Proving the existence God' and the difficultly seen therein through the history of Religion, chooses to remove from question, The Afterlife.

We then packaged, enhanced and digitized our own 'consciousnesses', uploaded them, and now exist eternally on some type of looping scenario we call 'reality'.

Also potentially known as, AI.

:universe:
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah, the explanation for deja vu

;)

And I agree with your take on eternity.

It is a long time.

Or even a single instant that extends seemingly forever

Either way, we gotta spice up this ride.

My greatest fear isn't the end but lack of the end.





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