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RUMOR: Freddy Gray had very recent spinal/cervical surgery / was receiving large pay-out.

 
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What is the case number?
 Quoting: calin


Never mind - I found it...
Case number
13C14101574

Somebody want to put in the case number and report back?
 Quoting: calin


Done. It comes back the same as the image on this link [link to thefourthestate.co]

No further detail or aliases. The person in case number didn't show for the court case and it was dismissed.
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hmmm... so we cannot be sure it was a settlement for a back injury... Right?
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No, the only thing in the case link is names and dates and that it was about a structured settlement.

I do remember reading somewhere else about Freddie Gray receiving some kind of settlement and not needing money yesterday, but I don't know if I can find it again or how reliable that info was.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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1 888 CASH NOW

Structured settlement?

1 888 CASH NOW

Disability? Anuaity payments? A lump some coming soon and need the money now?

Call

1 TRIPLE 8 CASH NOW

Mofo couldn't wait a few weeks for his lump sum.

Which, like an idiot, if he'd wait an extra year he'd get ALL OF IT yet instead signed it over to a middle man to get half of it.

and... he never saw a dime.

Except a dime bag.

and a slow runner.
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You hate in others what you see in yourself. Now, where did I read that?
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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

The lawsuit was about lead paint.

Last Edited by Resister on 04/28/2015 08:43 PM
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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1 888 CASH NOW

Structured settlement?

1 888 CASH NOW

Disability? Anuaity payments? A lump some coming soon and need the money now?

Call

1 TRIPLE 8 CASH NOW

Mofo couldn't wait a few weeks for his lump sum.

Which, like an idiot, if he'd wait an extra year he'd get ALL OF IT yet instead signed it over to a middle man to get half of it.

and... he never saw a dime.

Except a dime bag.

and a slow runner.
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You hate in others what you see in yourself. Now, where did I read that?
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American Blacks have lost all the ground that had gained over the past 60 years.

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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

No detail on what the settlement was for though, but he was receiving money from a settlement.
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Well, good for him, I'd say.
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Okay, and how many people have been arrested before who had prior injuries and didn't end up paralyzed, then in a coma and then dead????????

Keep feeding the race wars.
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1 888 CASH NOW

Structured settlement?

1 888 CASH NOW

Disability? Anuaity payments? A lump some coming soon and need the money now?

Call

1 TRIPLE 8 CASH NOW

Mofo couldn't wait a few weeks for his lump sum.

Which, like an idiot, if he'd wait an extra year he'd get ALL OF IT yet instead signed it over to a middle man to get half of it.

and... he never saw a dime.

Except a dime bag.

and a slow runner.
 Quoting: Narcissistic


You hate in others what you see in yourself. Now, where did I read that?
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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

No detail on what the settlement was for though, but he was receiving money from a settlement.
 Quoting: Resister


Well, good for him, I'd say.
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See my edit above. I read too fast. The settlement was over lead paint, not spinal injury. Not that particular lawsuit anyway.

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Okay, and how many people have been arrested before who had prior injuries and didn't end up paralyzed, then in a coma and then dead????????

Keep feeding the race wars.
 Quoting: Simple27

All to get the DOJ involved at state and local levels.

This is beyond F*'d up, and well within Obama's reach given the time he has left in office.
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Re: RUMOR: Freddy Gray had very recent spinal/cervical surgery / was receiving large pay-out.
Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

No detail on what the settlement was for though, but he was receiving money from a settlement.
 Quoting: Resister


Well, good for him, I'd say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68970703


See my edit above. I read too fast. The settlement was over lead paint, not spinal injury. Not that particular lawsuit anyway.
 Quoting: Resister


Right on Resister!!!!

So, does the "rumor" still have the same weight as when we first read about it?
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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

The lawsuit was about lead paint.
 Quoting: Resister


And from that link....

Police officials said Friday that they were in the midst of a “massive, meticulous” probe of the incident, and they appeared to be focusing on one segment of Gray’s 30-minute trip in a police transport van. They said Gray, who was handcuffed and eventually put in leg irons, was never seat-belted, a violation of policy. Gray had made several pleas for medical attention, police said, and officers should have called for an ambulance immediately after his arrest.
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Has it occurred to anyone that we are trying to make reason of insanity?
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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

The lawsuit was about lead paint.
 Quoting: Resister


And from that link....

Police officials said Friday that they were in the midst of a “massive, meticulous” probe of the incident, and they appeared to be focusing on one segment of Gray’s 30-minute trip in a police transport van. They said Gray, who was handcuffed and eventually put in leg irons, was never seat-belted, a violation of policy. Gray had made several pleas for medical attention, police said, and officers should have called for an ambulance immediately after his arrest.
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I do agree that if someone requests medical help, that should be provided... even in handcuffs. If nothing is found wrong, then it saves a malfeasance claim later.
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Let's not assume that the lead paint settlement (pretty easily verified) and the car accident must be mutually exclusive; both could be true.

Here's a good summary of the car accident story that's pretty balanced and un-sensational.

[link to theconservativetreehouse.com]
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So he didn't call 877 CASH NOW?
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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

The lawsuit was about lead paint.
 Quoting: Resister


And from that link....

Police officials said Friday that they were in the midst of a “massive, meticulous” probe of the incident, and they appeared to be focusing on one segment of Gray’s 30-minute trip in a police transport van. They said Gray, who was handcuffed and eventually put in leg irons, was never seat-belted, a violation of policy. Gray had made several pleas for medical attention, police said, and officers should have called for an ambulance immediately after his arrest.
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Part of "meticulous investigation" should focus on whether the officers had prior contact with officials of the victim's insurance company before their encounter with the victim.
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Okay, and how many people have been arrested before who had prior injuries and didn't end up paralyzed, then in a coma and then dead????????

Keep feeding the race wars.
 Quoting: Simple27

All to get the DOJ involved at state and local levels.

This is beyond F*'d up, and well within Obama's reach given the time he has left in office.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


This case is FAR different than Trayvon and Mike Brown.

This man was NOT committing any crime. This man was capable of running prior to the police chasing him down.

He was then paralyzed (I personally don't give a fuck about any prior injury, if there was one), put into a coma and then died.

His skin color to me is irrelevant.

No, not all cops are bad. I personally have friends who are cops.

But THESE cops NEED to be held accountable for this man's death.

Cops and civilians should have to face the same penalties.

This makes me sick. And it makes me even more sick to see people defending the situation who clearly haven't read up on it. At all.

Feeding the machine. This is the goal. The hate. The racism.

Great. Fucking great! I hope my little girl survives this scum fuck world once I'm gone!

SHAME on those who post without research.

These riots.....fucking disgusting!!!! A pathetic excuse to cause harm and damage to others who have nothing to do with it. Riots which have nothing to do with Freddie Gray. He is the EXCUSE.

Plan is going accordingly. It's a damn shame more don't SEE IT!!!

gaah

P.S. not directed at you Fret. Just fucking fed up!

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Re: RUMOR: Freddy Gray had very recent spinal/cervical surgery / was receiving large pay-out.
Let's not assume that the lead paint settlement (pretty easily verified) and the car accident must be mutually exclusive; both could be true.

Here's a good summary of the car accident story that's pretty balanced and un-sensational.

[link to theconservativetreehouse.com]
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Ok Fret! Good for you for finding this!

It does say though in that article: It must be noted however, that none of this is factually confirmed and we should research further.
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Found the article I remembered that mentioned his settlement checks.

"Friends said Gray never held a real job and spent his days hanging out in Sandtown. Money he used to buy designer accessories from Prada, they say, came in monthly settle­ment checks from a lead-paint lawsuit against the owners of the house where he grew up." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

No detail on what the settlement was for though, but he was receiving money from a settlement.
 Quoting: Resister


Well, good for him, I'd say.
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See my edit above. I read too fast. The settlement was over lead paint, not spinal injury. Not that particular lawsuit anyway.
 Quoting: Resister


Right on Resister!!!!

So, does the "rumor" still have the same weight as when we first read about it?
 Quoting: calin


Not for me. Having found a court case about a settlement with his name on it and a reputable report about a settlement about lead paint, I would be inclined not to believe the rumor of prior spinal injury. It would make more sense that the man healthy enough to run would not need to be carried by two people minutes later.

I still honestly have little sympathy for the dangerous life he lead catching up to him. Cops are not justified in handling a perp so forcefully that they break his neck, but accident or not, being arrested 18 times and running from the cops in a neighborhood known for drug trafficking is more than a little dangerous.
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Well, good for him, I'd say.
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See my edit above. I read too fast. The settlement was over lead paint, not spinal injury. Not that particular lawsuit anyway.
 Quoting: Resister


Right on Resister!!!!

So, does the "rumor" still have the same weight as when we first read about it?
 Quoting: calin


Not for me. Having found a court case about a settlement with his name on it and a reputable report about a settlement about lead paint, I would be inclined not to believe the rumor of prior spinal injury. It would make more sense that the man healthy enough to run would not need to be carried by two people minutes later.

I still honestly have little sympathy for the dangerous life he lead catching up to him. Cops are not justified in handling a perp so forcefully that they break his neck, but accident or not, being arrested 18 times and running from the cops in a neighborhood known for drug trafficking is more than a little dangerous.
 Quoting: Resister

See bold...

I tend to think something happened before Freddie was placed in the police van. He clearly was shouting in pain and he was dragging his legs.

When he asked for his inhaler, he could have been out of breath from running and/or stress.

The commissioner said Freddie had no other injuries.
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Okay, and how many people have been arrested before who had prior injuries and didn't end up paralyzed, then in a coma and then dead????????

Keep feeding the race wars.
 Quoting: Simple27

All to get the DOJ involved at state and local levels.

This is beyond F*'d up, and well within Obama's reach given the time he has left in office.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


This case is FAR different than Trayvon and Mike Brown.

This man was NOT committing any crime. This man was capable of running prior to the police chasing him down.

He was then paralyzed (I personally don't give a fuck about any prior injury, if there was one), put into a coma and then died.

His skin color to me is irrelevant.

No, not all cops are bad. I personally have friend who are cops.

But THESE cops NEED to be held accountable for this man's death.

Cops and civilians should have to face the same penalties.

This makes me sick. And it makes me even more sick to see people defending the situation who clearly haven't read up on it. At all.

Feeding the machine. This is the goal. The hate. The racism.

Great. Fucking great! I hope my little girl survives this scum fuck world once I'm gone!

SHAME on those who post without research.

These riots.....fucking disgusting!!!! A pathetic excuse to cause harm and damage to others who have nothing to do with it. Riots which have nothing to do with Freddie Gray. He is the EXCUSE.

Plan is going accordingly. It's a damn shame more don't SEE IT!!!

gaah

P.S. not directed at you Fret. Just fucking fed up!
 Quoting: Simple27

No, I hear ya, Simple. It reminds me of the NYC case of Eric Garner, in which the police really dropped the ball.

The challenge I have is the spin and advantage the Administration will use this for.

That is what sickens me. While normal day-to-day people are tormented (one way or the other) over this, the spin doctors are figuring out how to use this to their advantage.

I do feel your frustration, but if there's more to this story, I don't see the harm in uncovering it...or at least digging a little deeper.
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Re: RUMOR: Freddy Gray had very recent spinal/cervical surgery / was receiving large pay-out.
Let's not assume that the lead paint settlement (pretty easily verified) and the car accident must be mutually exclusive; both could be true.

Here's a good summary of the car accident story that's pretty balanced and un-sensational.

[link to theconservativetreehouse.com]
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Ok Fret! Good for you for finding this!

It does say though in that article: It must be noted however, that none of this is factually confirmed and we should research further.
 Quoting: calin

Now that I look closer at that article, it is a copy from the same link on the OP and a twitter with the same stuff from the same link... Nothing new... just going viral I expect.
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Look it up yourself...

[link to www.courtreference.com]
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I still honestly have little sympathy for the dangerous life he lead catching up to him. Cops are not justified in handling a perp so forcefully that they break his neck,
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it's best not to do stuff that gets a cop's adrenaline and and testosterone pumping.

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See my edit above. I read too fast. The settlement was over lead paint, not spinal injury. Not that particular lawsuit anyway.
 Quoting: Resister


Right on Resister!!!!

So, does the "rumor" still have the same weight as when we first read about it?
 Quoting: calin


Not for me. Having found a court case about a settlement with his name on it and a reputable report about a settlement about lead paint, I would be inclined not to believe the rumor of prior spinal injury. It would make more sense that the man healthy enough to run would not need to be carried by two people minutes later.

I still honestly have little sympathy for the dangerous life he lead catching up to him. Cops are not justified in handling a perp so forcefully that they break his neck, but accident or not, being arrested 18 times and running from the cops in a neighborhood known for drug trafficking is more than a little dangerous.
 Quoting: Resister

See bold...

I tend to think something happened before Freddie was placed in the police van. He clearly was shouting in pain and he was dragging his legs.

When he asked for his inhaler, he could have been out of breath from running and/or stress.

The commissioner said Freddie had no other injuries.
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We don't have video of the take down (at least not that I have seen) but the two cops that appear to have made the arrest were on bicycles. If they chased him down riding and tackled him at speed or swerved in front of him to block his path, that potentially could have seriously inured either the rider or the runner. That's a lot of speculation, but that's all we have at the moment.

At 46, I still remember the broken bones I got twice from riding wrecking my bike as a kid. I broke my jaw hitting a car and broke both bones in my left arm clean through on a bad jump landing. Nothing between you and the pavement when you are on a bike.
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Right on Resister!!!!

So, does the "rumor" still have the same weight as when we first read about it?
 Quoting: calin


Not for me. Having found a court case about a settlement with his name on it and a reputable report about a settlement about lead paint, I would be inclined not to believe the rumor of prior spinal injury. It would make more sense that the man healthy enough to run would not need to be carried by two people minutes later.

I still honestly have little sympathy for the dangerous life he lead catching up to him. Cops are not justified in handling a perp so forcefully that they break his neck, but accident or not, being arrested 18 times and running from the cops in a neighborhood known for drug trafficking is more than a little dangerous.
 Quoting: Resister

See bold...

I tend to think something happened before Freddie was placed in the police van. He clearly was shouting in pain and he was dragging his legs.

When he asked for his inhaler, he could have been out of breath from running and/or stress.

The commissioner said Freddie had no other injuries.
 Quoting: calin


We don't have video of the take down (at least not that I have seen) but the two cops that appear to have made the arrest were on bicycles. If they chased him down riding and tackled him at speed or swerved in front of him to block his path, that potentially could have seriously inured either the rider or the runner. That's a lot of speculation, but that's all we have at the moment.


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should they have stopped and put a pillow on the ground before
they carefully laid him down on it ?

wtf
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and, i doubt that those cops would have done all that work peddling their bicycles unless the had Probable Cause.
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The question right now and on this thread is whether this OP article holds any value... or is simply the rumor that is going viral.
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Re: RUMOR: Freddy Gray had very recent spinal/cervical surgery / was receiving large pay-out.
Recent spinal surgery due to any kind of accident wld not be found in court records until a court date was established which can take a very long time.

Thinking hats, people please.
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Re: RUMOR: Freddy Gray had very recent spinal/cervical surgery / was receiving large pay-out.
if this stuff was true, i'd think it'd be leaked right away to prevent this crap from going on.

today's cops need body/dash cams and release info right away, because monkeys cannot wait for investigations before they fling their poo.