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Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?

 
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Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?
I need to buy some respirators (gas masks) and filters, in order to protect myself and a family member from any ash that will come out of an eruption of the Yellowstone volcano.

I wear glasses, and my family member does not. So, do I buy half-face respirators? Or full-face respirators?


As for respirator size, most respirators come in small, medium, or large. As for *my* size, the circumference of my head is 25 inches, and my nose is a bit long. My family member's head has a circumference of 22 inches. So, which respirator size do we use, medium or large?


As for filters, I've read that P100 filters are the best filters. Is that correct?


By the way, I live in the Midwest.


Thanks for any information.
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Don't bother.

Spend the money on flowers instead and give them to someone you love. That will go further in preventing Yellowstone doom than an air filter duct-taped to your face.
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If that thing ever blows, the LEAST of your worries will be sucking in a bit of dust. Just sayin'
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panty hose bro, buy cases of it
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no need when it goes you are dead
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OP, where do you live?
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Re: Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?
Just go to Home depot and buy stacks of N95 dust masks.

[link to www.ivhhn.org]

The 100s have better protection than the 95s and would also be better protection in a bad flu outbreak, but they cost more. I have both.

A good smoke respirator for fumes runs 35 bucks or so but lasts a while, google it. I would have one anyway as a prep for a smoke event. Last Christmas I got them for 8 people, better than useless junk.

Just get work goggles to go over your glasses. Get them for everybody, you never know.

I don't understand the mentality of some posters here who don't get it about reasonable practical preparing. Are they too broke? Despairing? Stupid?
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Don't bother.

Spend the money on flowers instead and give them to someone you love. That will go further in preventing Yellowstone doom than an air filter duct-taped to your face.
 Quoting: Hales


Indeed.

If Yellowstone goes up, it's all over, no matter what.

Do something nice for somebody.

Every day.

Forget the gas mask.
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I don't understand the mentality of some posters here who don't get it about reasonable practical preparing. Are they too broke? Despairing? Stupid?
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yup
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I don't understand the mentality of some posters here who don't get it about reasonable practical preparing. Are they too broke? Despairing? Stupid?
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yup
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Some posters believe your missing the point. We see you entertaining your fear, investing in it, and living with it, and hope that a subtle redirection of your attention will bolster your higher senses.
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I'm crafting a water bong like device out of a 2ltr Pop bottle.
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Uline, full Face mask with 3 nanometer filters.
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Re: Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?
I need to buy some respirators (gas masks) and filters, in order to protect myself and a family member from any ash that will come out of an eruption of the Yellowstone volcano.

I wear glasses, and my family member does not. So, do I buy half-face respirators? Or full-face respirators?


As for respirator size, most respirators come in small, medium, or large. As for *my* size, the circumference of my head is 25 inches, and my nose is a bit long. My family member's head has a circumference of 22 inches. So, which respirator size do we use, medium or large?


As for filters, I've read that P100 filters are the best filters. Is that correct?


By the way, I live in the Midwest.


Thanks for any information.
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You should get fitted, unless you know how to test the fit yourself, a mask that doesn't fit isn't worth as much as one that does.

There is a difference between dust masks , which is what you need, and gas masks. You need a particulate (dust) mask. In order to tell if it's working you are exposed to a noxious smelling smoke, and if you smell it, the mask doesn't fit properly. An ill fitting mask in that situation would be better than nothing though.
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Re: Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?
I need to buy some respirators (gas masks) and filters, in order to protect myself and a family member from any ash that will come out of an eruption of the Yellowstone volcano.

I wear glasses, and my family member does not. So, do I buy half-face respirators? Or full-face respirators?


As for respirator size, most respirators come in small, medium, or large. As for *my* size, the circumference of my head is 25 inches, and my nose is a bit long. My family member's head has a circumference of 22 inches. So, which respirator size do we use, medium or large?


As for filters, I've read that P100 filters are the best filters. Is that correct?


By the way, I live in the Midwest.


Thanks for any information.
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I hope Mars has replacements; that's where you'll end up if it blows!

lolatu
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Re: Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?
Just go to Home depot and buy stacks of N95 dust masks.

[link to www.ivhhn.org]

The 100s have better protection than the 95s and would also be better protection in a bad flu outbreak, but they cost more. I have both.

A good smoke respirator for fumes runs 35 bucks or so but lasts a while, google it. I would have one anyway as a prep for a smoke event. Last Christmas I got them for 8 people, better than useless junk.

Just get work goggles to go over your glasses. Get them for everybody, you never know.

I don't understand the mentality of some posters here who don't get it about reasonable practical preparing. Are they too broke? Despairing? Stupid?
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In an ash event CHEAP masks are best, because you will be changing them every 10-15 minutes, as they clog up.

Guy I bunked with in the Airforce had done town evacs in Washington after Mt. St. Helens
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Re: Which respirators and filters do I buy for protection against Yellowstone volcanic ash?
Some generalities:

It doesn't take a lot of volcanic dust to coat your lungs with what amounts to plaster or cement. Not a fun thing.

IF (I haven't researched it) N or P95's are (most likely) sufficient to remove volcanic dust stick with those instead of P100's.

P100's are a lot more expensive than 95's so you could buy a lot (5-10x) more 95's.

Since this is not a biohazard threat you don't have to worry so much about reuse of the respirators. Basically, you can keep using them until they clog so much that it becomes difficult to breath. In a high dust/ash environment you will use a lot. Again, 95's are more cost effective as 100's will clog a lot faster.


Reusable respirators tend to be less convenient but more comfortable than disposable ones. It doesn't hurt to have some of both.

Buy several varieties of disposables to try if possible before stocking up. Everyones' faces are different and what works well for one could be practically unusable for another. When you test one out - do so for at least several hours. It would be best to have several sessions lasting as long as you expect to need to wear them - ie 8 hours if you have a an outside job.

Same thing for the reusable ones. Try them out, then load up on cartridges. The 3M 7500 series are worth the few extra dollars over the 6000 series and work well for most people. The vast majority wear medium or small - in that order. Their product numbering systems can be confusing - if you're not sure just ask.

No matter how "good" the respirator, if you are not used to one, you will be ready to rip it off after 15 minutes the first time you wear one so don't give up too easily.

zoro.com used to have decent prices and variety.
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Some generalities:

It doesn't take a lot of volcanic dust to coat your lungs with what amounts to plaster or cement. Not a fun thing.

IF (I haven't researched it) N or P95's are (most likely) sufficient to remove volcanic dust stick with those instead of P100's.

P100's are a lot more expensive than 95's so you could buy a lot (5-10x) more 95's.

Since this is not a biohazard threat you don't have to worry so much about reuse of the respirators. Basically, you can keep using them until they clog so much that it becomes difficult to breath. In a high dust/ash environment you will use a lot. Again, 95's are more cost effective as 100's will clog a lot faster.


Reusable respirators tend to be less convenient but more comfortable than disposable ones. It doesn't hurt to have some of both.

Buy several varieties of disposables to try if possible before stocking up. Everyones' faces are different and what works well for one could be practically unusable for another. When you test one out - do so for at least several hours. It would be best to have several sessions lasting as long as you expect to need to wear them - ie 8 hours if you have a an outside job.

Same thing for the reusable ones. Try them out, then load up on cartridges. The 3M 7500 series are worth the few extra dollars over the 6000 series and work well for most people. The vast majority wear medium or small - in that order. Their product numbering systems can be confusing - if you're not sure just ask.

No matter how "good" the respirator, if you are not used to one, you will be ready to rip it off after 15 minutes the first time you wear one so don't give up too easily.

zoro.com used to have decent prices and variety.
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I forgot to log in and couldn't add - Amazon is your friend. If not for prices than product descriptions and reviews. And if you're far enough away - maybe a well fitted bandanna would be enough.

Last Edited by Coming Soon on 04/29/2015 11:59 PM
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Hello. I am the OP of this thread.

I thought I'd come back here and continue the discussion.

First of all, someone asked where I am located. I live in Chicago.

Now, from what I've read, I don't think that the Yellowstone ash cloud would reach Chicago. However, I am prepared to escape to Atlanta or to Florida.


As for the respirators, I'm leaning toward buying disposable N95 respirators from Home Depot. The only question I have is the following: Do I buy the respirators without valves? Or do I buy the respirators with valves?

Here is a respirator without valves:

[link to www.homedepot.com]


And here is a respirator with valves:

[link to www.homedepot.com]


Please advise. Thank you.
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If that thing ever blows, the LEAST of your worries will be sucking in a bit of dust. Just sayin'
 Quoting: Canuck_Hillbilly


Actually, if you survive the eruption.. the number 1 killer will be that ash... whether breathing it in or having it collapse the roof over your head.
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The ones with the valves are a little bit easier to breathe through. Any healthy person with good lung function should be just fine without a valve.

It is nicer, the valve evacuates the damp exhaled air a little bit better and you don't sweat under them quite as bad. I'd go with whatever is cheapest for this unlikely eventuality. Chances are you'll forget where you put them before you ever have to use them.
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A dust mask or gas mask (or air filter in your car or generator) will plug up with ash in 10 minutes.

My (untested) game plan is I have a gas mask (NBC mask) with an external filter. I plan to wrap that filter in about a dozen or so clean sox (a filter for the filter if you will).

Not sure if it'll work, but the chances of yellowstone blowing are so low (until now) it hasn't warrented any further thought.
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Uline >=3nm Full face covering Protective Mask w/Extra filters

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is it really looking that serious at YS?
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scuba tanks, lots of em. hardy har har
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Hello. I am the OP of this thread.

I thought I'd come back here and continue the discussion.

First of all, someone asked where I am located. I live in Chicago.

Now, from what I've read, I don't think that the Yellowstone ash cloud would reach Chicago. However, I am prepared to escape to Atlanta or to Florida.

As for the respirators, I'm leaning toward buying disposable N95 respirators from Home Depot. The only question I have is the following: Do I buy the respirators without valves? Or do I buy the respirators with valves?

Please advise. Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6174486


Here is the hard part about Chicago and being the owner of a gas mask. Someone will see you with it and will loot/hurt you to get it in a major volcanic event. So donít bother.

Get the finest particle thing but also you need a mask that covers your eyes from dust, so for a budget get the old military surplus depot things for your make believe end of the world camp. Walk around your house, pretend youíre darth vader too.

At some point you just wanto to get a yellow biohazard suit and a filter and a tank of gas to protect your skin from acidic ash. Or maybe youíre trolling for answers to survive teargas not volcanic stuff.
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panty hose bro, buy cases of it
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THIS.

I lived in Washington and moved right before mt. Saint Helen's erupted. Talk about some real live doom.

I talked with friends that were right in the middle of it. They could not run cats without panty hose around the air filter. And even at that, they had to change them very frequently.
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panty hose bro, buy cases of it
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THIS.

I lived in Washington and moved right before mt. Saint Helen's erupted. Talk about some real live doom.

I talked with friends that were right in the middle of it. They could not run cats without panty hose around the air filter. And even at that, they had to change them very frequently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65074170


Ok ok. Cars, not cats.

Probably no cats running either though .

But get an Israeli gas mask. Need to protect you eyes.
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Quote:
is it really looking that serious at YS?

There has been alot of activity & harmonic tremors for 13 days...But it's still an unknown.
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I'm crafting a water bong like device out of a 2ltr Pop bottle.
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That's my thought exactly. I've even thought about tarps mounted on the roof of the house like dump trucks have that I could retract and knock the ash off to keep the roof from collapsing.
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I always travel with a MAsk in the form of a scaRF called a MARF. They are available on Amazon.
They are machine or hand washable which would be needed to wash out the ash as needed...
You could not have enough stock of the disposable mask.
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THIS.

I lived in Washington and moved right before mt. Saint Helen's erupted. Talk about some real live doom.

I talked with friends that were right in the middle of it. They could not run cats without panty hose around the air filter. And even at that, they had to change them very frequently.
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I've done some research on the idea of putting pantyhose around the car's air filter.


I found an online retailer called Outerwears, which sells pre-filters for cars. For example, Outerwears sells the following pre-filters for Honda Accords:

[link to www.outerwearsracing.com]

Would it be a good idea to use Outerwears pre-filters, instead of pantyhose?


Pantyhose don't seem to be too sturdy. Is it possible that pantyhose will be damaged during the operation of the car?

Also, how do I put the pantyhose around the air filter? Is there a diagram or a youtube video that shows how to do this?





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