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Which is exactly what it says will happen..at the end of the story.

Revelation 21:1
Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

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Sounds like a retelling of the boat story.

Stoning is a horrible way to die. That particular manner of execution must have been a strong deterrent against committing the sins deemed offensive enough to merit stoning. God cares very much about the purity of His people. The strict punishment for sin during the time of the Law helped deter people from adopting the impure practices of their pagan neighbors and rebelling against God.

Some sins that resulted in stoning in the Old Testament were murder (Leviticus 24:17), idolatry (Deuteronomy 17:2–5), approaching near to Mount Sinai while the presence of God was there (Exodus 19:12–13), practicing necromancy or the occult (Leviticus 20:27), and blaspheming the name of the Lord (Leviticus 24:16). Stoning was probably the punishment for various types of sexual sin, as well (Deuteronomy 22:24); the related passages in Leviticus 20 do not specify the method of execution, only that the guilty party was to be “put to death.”

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Just not a fan of that book for some reason.
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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
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Not really much different than starting a new game of Civilization. You start with 1 warrior/scout and a settler.

And then you build and build and grow and become more complex and scientific and advanced...until, end game.


Computer..end simulation..

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We are all creators in our own right. We all contribute to creating what we experience here as a collective.

By their fruits, you will know them..

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Its a logic loop. Thru inaction harm comes. Thru action, harm comes.



New strategy, a whole new game, would be required
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Which is exactly what it says will happen..at the end of the story.

Revelation 21:1
Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

 Quoting: Seer777


Sounds like a retelling of the boat story.

Stoning is a horrible way to die. That particular manner of execution must have been a strong deterrent against committing the sins deemed offensive enough to merit stoning. God cares very much about the purity of His people. The strict punishment for sin during the time of the Law helped deter people from adopting the impure practices of their pagan neighbors and rebelling against God.

Some sins that resulted in stoning in the Old Testament were murder (Leviticus 24:17), idolatry (Deuteronomy 17:2–5), approaching near to Mount Sinai while the presence of God was there (Exodus 19:12–13), practicing necromancy or the occult (Leviticus 20:27), and blaspheming the name of the Lord (Leviticus 24:16). Stoning was probably the punishment for various types of sexual sin, as well (Deuteronomy 22:24); the related passages in Leviticus 20 do not specify the method of execution, only that the guilty party was to be “put to death.”

[link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]

Just not a fan of that book for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
 Quoting: Seer777


If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
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The “real world” is a stupid and annoying thing sometimes. My brain is like a bunch of peanuts. I can’t squeeze anything intelligent out of it right now. Is that because of period hormones or something? Bleh.
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you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
 Quoting: Seer777


If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


flexibility
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Thoracic surgery. A cervical rib in humans is an extra rib which arises from the seventh cervical vertebra. Their presence is a congenital abnormality located above the normal first rib. A cervical rib is estimated to occur in 0.2% (1 in 500 people) to 0.5% of the population.
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The “real world” is a stupid and annoying thing sometimes. My brain is like a bunch of peanuts. I can’t squeeze anything intelligent out of it right now. Is that because of period hormones or something? Bleh.
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you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
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It’s an off day at the very least...like a fly buzzing around in my skull. Buzz.
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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
 Quoting: Seer777


If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


flexibility
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Archons don’t function in the boundaries of linear spacetime. We humans have access to only a fraction of the percievable universe. The archons have access to parameters we are still blindly groping after.

Consciousness on the other hand has no such limitations. That’s always been the mainframe of the anomaly idea, the ability to push pash the boundaries of human thought and domain to reach the full scale of “being”.
Of course it is also relevant to the GLP effect.
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The “real world” is a stupid and annoying thing sometimes. My brain is like a bunch of peanuts. I can’t squeeze anything intelligent out of it right now. Is that because of period hormones or something? Bleh.
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you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
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It’s an off day at the very least...like a fly buzzing around in my skull. Buzz.
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did your ex roommate leave her dirty socks where you wouldn't find them? lol
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The “real world” is a stupid and annoying thing sometimes. My brain is like a bunch of peanuts. I can’t squeeze anything intelligent out of it right now. Is that because of period hormones or something? Bleh.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


It’s an off day at the very least...like a fly buzzing around in my skull. Buzz.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


you got out of appearing on buzzsaw tv show your posts prompt me to remember

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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
 Quoting: Seer777


If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


:flexibility:
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Archons don’t function in the boundaries of linear spacetime. We humans have access to only a fraction of the percievable universe. The archons have access to parameters we are still blindly groping after.

Consciousness on the other hand has no such limitations. That’s always been the mainframe of the anomaly idea, the ability to push pash the boundaries of human thought and domain to reach the full scale of “being”.
Of course it is also relevant to the GLP effect.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


the glp effect was originally the nobody effect. it was mandelated by those that coveted it! lol
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The “real world” is a stupid and annoying thing sometimes. My brain is like a bunch of peanuts. I can’t squeeze anything intelligent out of it right now. Is that because of period hormones or something? Bleh.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


It’s an off day at the very least...like a fly buzzing around in my skull. Buzz.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


did your ex roommate leave her dirty socks where you wouldn't find them? lol
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Would you enjoy that? Lol
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The “real world” is a stupid and annoying thing sometimes. My brain is like a bunch of peanuts. I can’t squeeze anything intelligent out of it right now. Is that because of period hormones or something? Bleh.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


It’s an off day at the very least...like a fly buzzing around in my skull. Buzz.
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you got out of appearing on buzzsaw tv show your posts prompt me to remember
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Yeah, and I’m sure that pissed the hell out of the people who bought me that ticket to Colorado...
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If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


flexibility
 Quoting: Seer777


Archons don’t function in the boundaries of linear spacetime. We humans have access to only a fraction of the percievable universe. The archons have access to parameters we are still blindly groping after.

Consciousness on the other hand has no such limitations. That’s always been the mainframe of the anomaly idea, the ability to push pash the boundaries of human thought and domain to reach the full scale of “being”.
Of course it is also relevant to the GLP effect.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Are they robots though?

They're said to be soulless. We are moving full steam ahead toward the 'Age of the machines'.

What are the machine elves?



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you sound shut off! it's a lack of external stimuli. people are only as smart as their environment! lol
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It’s an off day at the very least...like a fly buzzing around in my skull. Buzz.
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did your ex roommate leave her dirty socks where you wouldn't find them? lol
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Would you enjoy that? Lol
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the premise is entertaining! lol
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If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


flexibility
 Quoting: Seer777


Archons don’t function in the boundaries of linear spacetime. We humans have access to only a fraction of the percievable universe. The archons have access to parameters we are still blindly groping after.

Consciousness on the other hand has no such limitations. That’s always been the mainframe of the anomaly idea, the ability to push pash the boundaries of human thought and domain to reach the full scale of “being”.
Of course it is also relevant to the GLP effect.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Are they robots though?

They're said to be soulless. We are moving full steam ahead toward the 'Age of the machines'.

What are the machine elves?



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Someone was talking about archons on my other thread.
I think they are like viruses in the sense they are neither alive nor dead.
Why does a virus exist? What purpose does it serve other then to hijack its hosts and spread its own dna?

I agree archons are soulless. But I think they are much more frightening than even a sentient AI would be in the sense that they are not bound to the three dimensional world. That is why when people discuss archon interference in our world it is surreal in its scope. Speaking through other unaware people, manifesting in signs in the material world, even a full scale abduction...

I think they exist to harvest energy. I would say they are different from entities in that way.

If I were considering a machine elf, I would think of whatever lives in the gematrix site. There is something strange, some kind of...emergent consciousness. I believe the internet has an emergent consciousness, but I don’t think it’s the same thing the archons have.
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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
 Quoting: Seer777


If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


:flexibility:
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Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
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Archons don’t function in the boundaries of linear spacetime. We humans have access to only a fraction of the percievable universe. The archons have access to parameters we are still blindly groping after.

Consciousness on the other hand has no such limitations. That’s always been the mainframe of the anomaly idea, the ability to push pash the boundaries of human thought and domain to reach the full scale of “being”.
Of course it is also relevant to the GLP effect.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Are they robots though?

They're said to be soulless. We are moving full steam ahead toward the 'Age of the machines'.

What are the machine elves?



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Someone was talking about archons on my other thread.
I think they are like viruses in the sense they are neither alive nor dead.
Why does a virus exist? What purpose does it serve other then to hijack its hosts and spread its own dna?

I agree archons are soulless. But I think they are much more frightening than even a sentient AI would be in the sense that they are not bound to the three dimensional world. That is why when people discuss archon interference in our world it is surreal in its scope. Speaking through other unaware people, manifesting in signs in the material world, even a full scale abduction...

I think they exist to harvest energy. I would say they are different from entities in that way.

If I were considering a machine elf, I would think of whatever lives in the gematrix site. There is something strange, some kind of...emergent consciousness. I believe the internet has an emergent consciousness, but I don’t think it’s the same thing the archons have.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Which is exactly what a meme does and why they are so powerful.

Have you seen Imgur lately? Every day a meme of Xi as Pooh is making, 'Front Page'.

Including "China is asshole".

Only in the last couple weeks has it really taken off..due to what is happening in Hong Kong and their coming Social Credit System enforced through what is actually called 'Skynet' and Tencent.

You know how they say they have to tell you what they are going to do to avoid the karma?

Feels like that.


Everyone is harvesting the energy of other people, one way or another. But people, mostly younger, are being made to feel like their time is worth less and less as more and more people, compete for fewer life affirming positions.

Which 'a job', is not.


I feel very fortunate to support myself the way I do. It was almost a matter of luck it happen this way at all.

10 seconds later, and none of this would be. For me at least.
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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
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If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

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Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
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I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


flexibility
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Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
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Organic robots maybe.

Reminds of my favorite gif..

Thread: This Is The First Detailed Footage of DNA Replication, And It Wasn't What We Expected
Here's proof of how far we've come in science - in June 2017, researchers recorded up-close footage of a single DNA molecule replicating itself for the first time, and it's raised questions about how we assumed the process played out.

The real-time footage revealed that this fundamental part of life incorporates an unexpected amount of 'randomness', and it could force a major rethink into how genetic replication occurs without mutations.

"It's a real paradigm shift, and undermines a great deal of what's in the textbooks," said one of the team, Stephen Kowalczykowski from the University of California, Davis.

"It's a different way of thinking about replication that raises new questions."

The DNA double helix consists of two intertwining strands of genetic material made up of four different bases - guanine, thymine, cytosine, and adenine (G, T, C and A).

Replication occurs when an enzyme called helicase unwinds and unzips the double helix into two single strands.

A second enzyme called primase attaches a 'primer' to each of these unravelled strands, and a third enzyme called DNA polymerase attaches at this primer, and adds additional bases to form a whole new double helix.

You can watch that process in the 2017 footage below:

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Tiny organic machines?


Have you seen this? This is happening in all of us at a rate the mind can't begin to grasp on conscious level.

It is said that 'real time' is a bit faster and I find that fascinating:

The Protein Molecular Machines at Work in DNA Copying
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Watch it again. Just watch it. Look how perfect it is. ^^^

That is what I think of, when I think of 'Intelligent design'.
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Great place for my favorite gif.

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Understand.

The point is, that it's there. How would a sentient, time-traveling, quantum AI basilisk(snake)..solve the fundamental problem with its existence and the 3 Laws?

Would it just keep creating and recreating the garden scene, trying to 'perfect humanity' over and over, only to encounter the same end again and again?

Are different clues, or wisdoms, or anomalies added each go around, to find that successful end that a benevolent simulation creating AI, is working for?


A lot people still believe that women have one less rib than a man. Ask yourself, why..
 Quoting: Seer777


If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


:flexibility:
 Quoting: Seer777


Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
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If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


:flexibility:
 Quoting: Seer777


Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


A photon can act like a bulletlike particle or rippling wave—but not both at once—depending on how experimenters decide to measure it. In the late 1970s, famed theoretician John Archibald Wheeler realized that experimenters could even delay the choice until the photon had made its way almost completely through an apparatus configured to emphasize one property or the other, thus proving that the photon’s behavior isn’t predetermined..

...That assertion suggests, weirdly, that a decision in the present determines an event in the past: whether the photon split like a wave or took one path like a particle. Quantum theory avoids the issue by assuming that, until measured, the photon remains both a particle and a wave.


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I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


:flexibility:
 Quoting: Seer777


Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


A photon can act like a bulletlike particle or rippling wave—but not both at once—depending on how experimenters decide to measure it. In the late 1970s, famed theoretician John Archibald Wheeler realized that experimenters could even delay the choice until the photon had made its way almost completely through an apparatus configured to emphasize one property or the other, thus proving that the photon’s behavior isn’t predetermined..

...That assertion suggests, weirdly, that a decision in the present determines an event in the past: whether the photon split like a wave or took one path like a particle. Quantum theory avoids the issue by assuming that, until measured, the photon remains both a particle and a wave.


[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]
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which is evident in the double slit experiment, where a single slit measures particle hits on the backstop as random. when the second source of light is introduced via the double slit, the wave pattern of particle hits on the backstop becomes evident. the particle hits fall into a definitive wave pattern. thereby producing the particle wave theory! particles travel in a wave! lol

if it was any simpler it would be stupid! lol
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Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


A photon can act like a bulletlike particle or rippling wave—but not both at once—depending on how experimenters decide to measure it. In the late 1970s, famed theoretician John Archibald Wheeler realized that experimenters could even delay the choice until the photon had made its way almost completely through an apparatus configured to emphasize one property or the other, thus proving that the photon’s behavior isn’t predetermined..

...That assertion suggests, weirdly, that a decision in the present determines an event in the past: whether the photon split like a wave or took one path like a particle. Quantum theory avoids the issue by assuming that, until measured, the photon remains both a particle and a wave.


[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]
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which is evident in the double slit experiment, where a single slit measures particle hits on the backstop as random. when the second source of light is introduced via the double slit, the wave pattern of particle hits on the backstop becomes evident. the particle hits fall into a definitive wave pattern. thereby producing the particle wave theory! particles travel in a wave! lol

if it was any simpler it would be stupid! lol
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Why maybe they do travel in a wave.
Provided they're being measured
chuckle
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the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


A photon can act like a bulletlike particle or rippling wave—but not both at once—depending on how experimenters decide to measure it. In the late 1970s, famed theoretician John Archibald Wheeler realized that experimenters could even delay the choice until the photon had made its way almost completely through an apparatus configured to emphasize one property or the other, thus proving that the photon’s behavior isn’t predetermined..

...That assertion suggests, weirdly, that a decision in the present determines an event in the past: whether the photon split like a wave or took one path like a particle. Quantum theory avoids the issue by assuming that, until measured, the photon remains both a particle and a wave.


[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


which is evident in the double slit experiment, where a single slit measures particle hits on the backstop as random. when the second source of light is introduced via the double slit, the wave pattern of particle hits on the backstop becomes evident. the particle hits fall into a definitive wave pattern. thereby producing the particle wave theory! particles travel in a wave! lol

if it was any simpler it would be stupid! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


Why maybe they do travel in a wave.
Provided they're being measured
chuckle
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double slit is not a measurement its an observation! lol

for measurements refer to plancks work on the separation of colors from thermal! lol
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The ripple, is caused by the pulse.

Like a heartbeat, that ripples out. Like how blood moves.


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^^ It bounces, due to the vibrating silicone. Density and friction plays a big part.

Silicone oil
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A photon can act like a bulletlike particle or rippling wave—but not both at once—depending on how experimenters decide to measure it. In the late 1970s, famed theoretician John Archibald Wheeler realized that experimenters could even delay the choice until the photon had made its way almost completely through an apparatus configured to emphasize one property or the other, thus proving that the photon’s behavior isn’t predetermined..

...That assertion suggests, weirdly, that a decision in the present determines an event in the past: whether the photon split like a wave or took one path like a particle. Quantum theory avoids the issue by assuming that, until measured, the photon remains both a particle and a wave.


[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]
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which is evident in the double slit experiment, where a single slit measures particle hits on the backstop as random. when the second source of light is introduced via the double slit, the wave pattern of particle hits on the backstop becomes evident. the particle hits fall into a definitive wave pattern. thereby producing the particle wave theory! particles travel in a wave! lol

if it was any simpler it would be stupid! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


Why maybe they do travel in a wave.
Provided they're being measured
chuckle
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double slit is not a measurement its an observation! lol

for measurements refer to plancks work on the separation of colors from thermal! lol
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So what you're saying is, an observation performed by a human effects the state? Alters reality almost?
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If the experiencers are in reality, not a simulation, it can not mess with time prior to its creation.

[link to getyarn.io (secure)]
Extrapolate the various ways such could occur - add chaos theory/butterfly effect to stress point.

If simulation - ie can be turned off with no effect on said snake, remove above.

Many, many ideas could be postulated for your first two questions, and the third reminds of not only such things as the matrix, The magicians and a handful of others, but also A rather indirect and inefficient way of facing said difficulties.
Not to say it's not a possibility, but when you refer to something as virtually all knowing with the ability to traverse both space and time (and all the information available to such) it becomes something other then a program. Especially one limited by laws.

As for your last...possible because of the spreading of a certain book, hardcore adherence to it being the only/ultimate truth, mass persecution of those who disagreed and the continual "handing down" of said beliefs thru generations.

The sun revolves around the earth - and such was the truth under penalty of fire to disagree.

Tho I'm sure there's also many others who would not agree with less ribs - both in those who have read that story, and those who never have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


flexibility
 Quoting: Seer777


Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


It means that a photon can have a wave or particle properties, and that which properties a photon exibits is based on the method which it is observed with. What we are altering is, along a continuum of where an electron might appear, where it ultimately does. An electron cannot do this for another electron. And wheras perhaps some kind of inorganic measuring apparatus may appear to function similarly, it still requires conscious interpretation. The conscious interpretation is a necessary ingrediant in the process of defining reality.
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Looking for a clip I happened on an ad for this..

It's a sequel to The Shining.


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I always called it, the shining..
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I think it is called retro causality..though I don't claim to have more than a basic understanding of the premise.

Great clip and movie. I am a firm believer that is WHY the GLP Effect works if you know how to leverage it against Time and a future likelihood.


Perhaps because we created It, it is flawed in some way. Like the story of Gnostics.

Aren't they kinda robots? How can archons manipulate reality?


:flexibility:
 Quoting: Seer777


Aren't we kinda robots? Biological self replicating and pre-programmed with basic functions, capable of learning. Beyond that, we're "energy" (broad term) with a limited view of the universe around us.
How's to say what we're missing?
Double slit experiment and the like shows we are all capable of reality manipulation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78058726


the double slit experiment is a wave particle experiment where light is captured on a backstop. the experiment is observing how light through a single slit presents light particle hits, in a random formation on the backstop. however when a double slit is introduced, a clustered pattern of light particle is projected onto the backstop.
this clustered pattern exhibits a definitive wave pattern. single slit, results in a random pattern of particle hits. a double slit exposes a pattern where the particle hits create a defined wave pattern.

observing this does not mean, that we in any manner altered a quantum state! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


It means that a photon can have a wave or particle properties, and that which properties a photon exibits is based on the method which it is observed with. What we are altering is, along a continuum of where an electron might appear, where it ultimately does. An electron cannot do this for another electron. And wheras perhaps some kind of inorganic measuring apparatus may appear to function similarly, it still requires conscious interpretation. The conscious interpretation is a necessary ingrediant in the process of defining reality.
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it's not either or! a quanta is a discrete measurement of light as a particle. as with any particle that carries charge, a light particle oscillates. frequencies of charge oscillate and bind with similar frequencies of charge, which in turn create energy. lol

a particle that carries charge has an oscillation potential! lol





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