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Strong personalities aren't always healthy ones.
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mental health is a product of knowing yourself and being able to correctly assess the discordance around you! lol
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Then we agree on what I said!
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you'd like to think so! lol
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Strong personalities aren't always healthy ones.
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mental health is a product of knowing yourself and being able to correctly assess the discordance around you! lol
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Then we agree on what I said!
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you'd like to think so! lol
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No. Not really. Just playing Marco Polo.
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mental health is a product of knowing yourself and being able to correctly assess the discordance around you! lol
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Then we agree on what I said!
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you'd like to think so! lol
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No. Not really. Just playing Marco Polo.
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it was obvious! lol
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Then we agree on what I said!
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you'd like to think so! lol
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No. Not really. Just playing Marco Polo.
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it was obvious! lol
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Was it not supposed to be?
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My rehab holds a CGA meeting (criminals and gangsters anonymous) on Wednesday nights and I decided to check it out because I was too lazy to go to the outside AA meeting. The speaker was this ex-con and his share was great, but basically he was describing what prison was like. And beyond the obvious stuff like the racial warfare, crazy violence like stabbings and then the guards shooting these turbo turrets and just ripping the stabbers to pieces, bullet ricochets and fucks up someone on the other side of the yard...

His prison was on lockdown for the first full YEAR he was there. And what that means is you don’t get to leave your tiny cell. At all. Except once every three days to shower.

Can you imagine what being locked in such a tiny space without any daily yard time would do to a person? I literally have no IDEA how I’d handle that.
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"If time is truly linear then we can only remember the past and cannot in any way remember the future."
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we experience that, the seeing is never like the being

you know how you feel for as far as you see (linear time)
but
you often never know what material circumstances maintain your emotional state within the bonds/boundaries/membranes/emotional/states of our material dimension
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the degree you ever do is steered by the emotion you experience moment to moment while being within your precognition viiew
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"If time is truly linear then we can only remember the past and cannot in any way remember the future."
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we experience that, the seeing is never like the being

you know how you feel for as far as you see (linear time)
but
you often never know what material circumstances maintain your emotional state within the bonds/boundaries/membranes/emotional/states of our material dimension
and
the degree you ever do is steered by the emotion you experience moment to moment while being within your precognition viiew
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If you work up from first principles, much of what we understand about the Universe and how it works is through symmetries. If a transformation is symmetric, the properties of a system can be retained if the system is transformed.
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Good morning.
I believe that we dream outside of linear time and that is why dreams can be precognitive. Precognition in dreams is actually very common.
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Good morning.
I believe that we dream outside of linear time and that is why dreams can be precognitive. Precognition in dreams is actually very common.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Agree. I know it's real.

I watched a commercial airliner crash in my dream last night. It barely missed the roof of my house..scraped a wing on the grass, pulled up enough to make just out of my sight..then it exploded in an enormous fireball.

Mushroom cloud really.

I wasn't in the plane though..so it is probably not a precog dream.
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Good morning.
I believe that we dream outside of linear time and that is why dreams can be precognitive. Precognition in dreams is actually very common.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Agree. I know it's real.

I watched a commercial airliner crash in my dream last night. It barely missed the roof of my house..scraped a wing on the grass, pulled up enough to make just out of my sight..then it exploded in an enormous fireball.

Mushroom cloud really.

I wasn't in the plane though..so it is probably not a precog dream.
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A psychic in this book I read was writing about the different variety of dreams. She said the precognitive ones have a specific feel. If I recall correctly there is a feeling of emotional neutrality about them, like you are seeing outside of yourself.
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Good morning.
I believe that we dream outside of linear time and that is why dreams can be precognitive. Precognition in dreams is actually very common.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Agree. I know it's real.

I watched a commercial airliner crash in my dream last night. It barely missed the roof of my house..scraped a wing on the grass, pulled up enough to make just out of my sight..then it exploded in an enormous fireball.

Mushroom cloud really.

I wasn't in the plane though..so it is probably not a precog dream.
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A psychic in this book I read was writing about the different variety of dreams. She said the precognitive ones have a specific feel. If I recall correctly there is a feeling of emotional neutrality about them, like you are seeing outside of yourself.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye

She's right other than emotional neutrality.

I generally know because I die in the in dream. They are usually exceedingly vivid..and very short. 3-10 seconds or so for entire dream start to finish.
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Good morning.
I believe that we dream outside of linear time and that is why dreams can be precognitive. Precognition in dreams is actually very common.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Agree. I know it's real.

I watched a commercial airliner crash in my dream last night. It barely missed the roof of my house..scraped a wing on the grass, pulled up enough to make just out of my sight..then it exploded in an enormous fireball.

Mushroom cloud really.

I wasn't in the plane though..so it is probably not a precog dream.
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A psychic in this book I read was writing about the different variety of dreams. She said the precognitive ones have a specific feel. If I recall correctly there is a feeling of emotional neutrality about them, like you are seeing outside of yourself.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye

She's right other than emotional neutrality.

I generally know because I die in the in dream. They are usually exceedingly vivid..and very short. 3-10 seconds or so for entire dream start to finish.
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But if you die in the dream, how can it be precognitive?
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Agree. I know it's real.

I watched a commercial airliner crash in my dream last night. It barely missed the roof of my house..scraped a wing on the grass, pulled up enough to make just out of my sight..then it exploded in an enormous fireball.

Mushroom cloud really.

I wasn't in the plane though..so it is probably not a precog dream.
 Quoting: Seer777


A psychic in this book I read was writing about the different variety of dreams. She said the precognitive ones have a specific feel. If I recall correctly there is a feeling of emotional neutrality about them, like you are seeing outside of yourself.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye

She's right other than emotional neutrality.

I generally know because I die in the in dream. They are usually exceedingly vivid..and very short. 3-10 seconds or so for entire dream start to finish.
 Quoting: Seer777


But if you die in the dream, how can it be precognitive?
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Because I watch the events I dream, play out in real life.

Just the way it works for me. When I dreamed my friend's death, 24 hours before in the very manner he would later die..it cemented it for me,

I spent the entire day that day, contemplating telling him the dream I had had, but chose not to.

24hours later he was dead..and the backyard was on fire.

And so it began..
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A psychic in this book I read was writing about the different variety of dreams. She said the precognitive ones have a specific feel. If I recall correctly there is a feeling of emotional neutrality about them, like you are seeing outside of yourself.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye

She's right other than emotional neutrality.

I generally know because I die in the in dream. They are usually exceedingly vivid..and very short. 3-10 seconds or so for entire dream start to finish.
 Quoting: Seer777


But if you die in the dream, how can it be precognitive?
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


Because I watch the events I dream, play out in real life.

Just the way it works for me. When I dreamed my friend's death, 24 hours before in the very manner he would later die..it cemented it for me,

I spent the entire day that day, contemplating telling him the dream I had had, but chose not to.

24hours later he was dead..and the backyard was on fire.

And so it began..
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Ah, I see.
I have had some precognitive dreams, but never about anything important.
My lucid dreams stand out to me much more then precognitive ones.
In those dreams, I am often told I am a creator, that all humans have an inner divinity to explore their creator nature.
One particular dream i had after my suicide attempt stuck with me. I saw heaven and it was this gorgeous place. When I die the right way, I will be able to be fully reunited with my creator self. That’s why i have to live out my full life and explore my purpose. Not that my entry into higher consciousness is contingent upon my accomplishing something great, just to stick it out and do my best to fulfill my potential.

In another dream, my german shepherd, who died yesterday but a few years back, was standing over me and he was angry that I attempted suicide. I’ve never seen him angry. He was my biggest protector. But he was so mad I tried to kill myself.

Dreams of the dead I have frequently. I wonder if the dead really visit me or if I just remember them. I described the one I had of my dad laying on his deathbed like a stone. He was in purgatory and I had to convince him the afterlife existed. He said it didn’t. I said “it does now”.

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I have a lot of thoughts about the afterlife.

One being, it doesn't exist.

Two..that it will exist in the future with people's memories and personalities.. being 'uploaded'.

Three..that this is the afterlife and we just keep repeating the same loop over and over.

Four..the Earth is like a training/vacation destination.

Five..that we are all asleep on a ship somewhere and this is a collective dream were all having while getting to where we're going.

Six..that this is Hell

Seven that we are being farmed

Eight that none of this means anything in the grand scheme of the enormity of the universe.

Nine..that we are all mini creators exploring our abilities. Lots of great things to do and see. Depending on when, where, how, you were born and where you live.


I don't believe anyone that says they know for sure anything when it comes to the comes to the Afterlife or any unanswerable problems that present itself to the existential dilemma.
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Being in a simulation solves all the unsolvable problems for me.

It also grants the potential existence of a 'Heaven or Hell' and a creator, as people have come to consider them.


I think this meme gets it as close as anyone ever will.

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One of the reasons I lean no afterlife, is the seemingly lack of vengeance beyond the grave one would think would be probable.. due the vast injustices, that plague our world.

Seems to me that if an aspect of people did go on..there would be far more score settling.

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I am certain there is some form of afterlife. Based on near death experiences, my knowledge of consciousness, my exploration of philosophy - that there is no such thing as nothingness - and my encounters with otherworldly forces. Also, my exploration of psychedelics, especially dmt. Dmt is released in the brain at death, and as we know that dmt is the substamce of dreaming, and dreams can create whole universes of experience in a time that spans, in our waking reality, a mere 15 minutes.

Thinking about that, the dmt that is released during death could easily create an experience that we simply never return from.

We’ve been discussing the nonlinearity of time, which really factors into this.
I was reading books about quantum physics from an early age, and one thing really blew my time.
In the conception of time, nothing ever truly begins or ends. We have a narrative experience of moving through our lives, but that is only for the evolutionary purpose of creating a coherent experience of our lives.
The true nature of time is more akin to say, a dvd. You can play a dvd from any point in the narrative. You can begin it straight in the middle of the movie and the characters will continue as if to them, the events were progressing with no gaps. The characters in the movie don’t notice, obviously.

The point being, that whatever you were doing at any point in time, in the teue nature of physics, you are STILL doing it and ALWAYS will be. Just because we move towards the future in out conception of reality, the past in the block of spacetime never stops existing.
Death is a time experience, it is dependant upon where you are in that block of spacetime that is lit up by your consciousness.
But who is to say our current era and our current point in spacetime is the only existent experience?
People in the past may still be existing there, while we are existing here, and our experiences would never overlap.

Although we can’t be sure of the afterlife, the one thing we can be certain of and what I am certain of is the nature of consciousness. Consciousness can’t disappear because it is the true basis of reality and the universe.
Also, consciousness can have different forms in different dimensions of existence.

I have toyed with the idea that people get the afterlife they believe in. Maybe the afterlife is different for everyone.

But I am certain that for myself, I will become a creator in a different dimension of existence. This very last suspicion of mine is the only one that is purely subjective and impossible to prove. Because it has come to me in dreams and it is also based on what “God” as such has told me.
But the nature of my dreams has been creating my dream reality and exploring it.
And DMT is the nature of both dreams and death. So I can say with some confidence I will return there.

I feel like there is more to say here, about how our eyes are portals our consciousness can use to leave our bodies, but I’ll leave it at that, and reference out of body experiences too...
If astral projection is real - and I have experienced it myself - then there is no way our consciousness is attached to our bodies.
The brains are only signal carriers, not the source of the signal itself.
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Why not become a creator here? In the time you have now? Tons of tools to work with, to do or learn almost anything.

The only problem I have with NDEs and OBEs as 'proof of an afterlife' is the brain of the person is still alive experiencing those experiences.

Just like I know the telepathy is real. With other people which are also real in the here and now.

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Why not become a creator here? In the time you have now? Tons of tools to work with, to do or learn almost anything.

The only problem I have with NDEs and OBEs as 'proof of an afterlife' is the brain of the person is still alive experiencing those experiences.

Just like I know the telepathy is real. With other people which are also real in the here and now.

littleprince
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That is not true of all NDEs. In some there is total brain death at the time of the NDE.

Of course I am not saying that we should all sit on our hands and merely await the afterlife.

But the idea that our brains contain our consciousness has numerous flaws.
Our brains could never contain a long-term memory system, for example, with infinite storage. It’s a pure hardware problem. Memories have no specific location in the brain - although the long term memory system itself can be faulty or stop working, one particular memory itself has no location. They have tested rats who have memories of navigating a maze. They attempted to remove parts of the brain to remove the rats ability to navigate the maze. But at a certain point most of the rats beain was gone and they still remembered the maze.

The brain appears to be holographic, with part of its information being stored outside of the specific hardware of the mind.

Of course there’s the fact that we haven’t- and in my opinion will never - locate the source of consciousness in the brain.
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Why the telepathy is real..is one I'm still not sure of and have worked through many theories.

Everything from cylons to sensates.
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Why not become a creator here? In the time you have now? Tons of tools to work with, to do or learn almost anything.

The only problem I have with NDEs and OBEs as 'proof of an afterlife' is the brain of the person is still alive experiencing those experiences.

Just like I know the telepathy is real. With other people which are also real in the here and now.

littleprince
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That is not true of all NDEs. In some there is total brain death at the time of the NDE.

Of course I am not saying that we should all sit on our hands and merely await the afterlife.

But the idea that our brains contain our consciousness has numerous flaws.
Our brains could never contain a long-term memory system, for example, with infinite storage. It’s a pure hardware problem. Memories have no specific location in the brain - although the long term memory system itself can be faulty or stop working, one particular memory itself has no location. They have tested rats who have memories of navigating a maze. They attempted to remove parts of the brain to remove the rats ability to navigate the maze. But at a certain point most of the rats beain was gone and they still remembered the maze.

The brain appears to be holographic, with part of its information being stored outside of the specific hardware of the mind.

Of course there’s the fact that we haven’t- and in my opinion will never - locate the source of consciousness in the brain.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye

Total brain death is not survivable.

Maybe they were using their 'gut brain'.

Even lightly damaging a person's brain, will have noticeable feedback..


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The calculation took 3 minutes and 20 seconds.

The ability to rationalize numbers between bits.

How many calculations is your mind capable of?

The sum difference is storage and fetch functions.

Focus.

Time is relative to data processed and reactive ability.
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I had a moment yesterday where I had my eyes closed and I was thinking of specific person and noticed how my 'eyes' looked back..toward a specific part of my brain. Behind my right ear by about 2 inches.

I thought of another person and they were located just a little farther up.

Why do our eyes move when retrieving information from behind our eyes?
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Why not become a creator here? In the time you have now? Tons of tools to work with, to do or learn almost anything.

The only problem I have with NDEs and OBEs as 'proof of an afterlife' is the brain of the person is still alive experiencing those experiences.

Just like I know the telepathy is real. With other people which are also real in the here and now.

littleprince
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That is not true of all NDEs. In some there is total brain death at the time of the NDE.

Of course I am not saying that we should all sit on our hands and merely await the afterlife.

But the idea that our brains contain our consciousness has numerous flaws.
Our brains could never contain a long-term memory system, for example, with infinite storage. It’s a pure hardware problem. Memories have no specific location in the brain - although the long term memory system itself can be faulty or stop working, one particular memory itself has no location. They have tested rats who have memories of navigating a maze. They attempted to remove parts of the brain to remove the rats ability to navigate the maze. But at a certain point most of the rats beain was gone and they still remembered the maze.

The brain appears to be holographic, with part of its information being stored outside of the specific hardware of the mind.

Of course there’s the fact that we haven’t- and in my opinion will never - locate the source of consciousness in the brain.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye

Total brain death is not survivable.

Maybe they were using their 'gut brain'.

Even lightly damaging a person's brain, will have noticeable feedback..


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Total brain death is not always permanent. Think for example when people are legally dead but they are resuscitated. I know a few in my own life that have been legally dead for a period of time. There is no brain activity in such instamces.
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Why the telepathy is real..is one I'm still not sure of and have worked through many theories.

Everything from cylons to sensates.
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Do you not see how much easier it is to understand your telepathy when you simply accept that our consciousness is not attached to our physical brains?
There is tons of evidence that out consciousness is located from a signal outside of our minds.
I think that stubbornly clinging to materialism makes very little sense. It is a dogma in its own right, and science will never progress beyond it’s current standstill in the nature of unified field theory until it simply is willing to shift the paradigm.
If you do, everything falls into place perfectly.
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