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Shaktipat
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The honeypot and its use in subterfuge.

Often what you want is not what you need.


But if you try sometimes...;)
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Shaktipat is a honeypot? Which leads to what? Vampirism? Something else?

I've certainly considered that at length.
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Too much counting...
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Too bad the IV222 threads were deleted. I visited all the tenets of deprogramming there along with synchronicity being a major portent of schizophrenia.

Groupthink is dangerous when complex issues are made simplistic.
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I still wonder what happened to IV. He had a good heart in the right place I think.

He was also funny and creative. I definitely understand the potential to surrender to a guru but was a little wiser after the fact.

Whatever was activated in me, has not changed.

Electric
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Thread: I'm over being a Vampire, It's Shit
Too much counting...
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Alright, considering the situation...

How about half a hypothesis?
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I feel purged on the guru/cult topic now.

This is a great thread.

Thread: What do synchronicities mean?

Here we go again.

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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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hmm



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damned
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I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this..but seeing it made me realize how terrifying it must have been for parents to see their adult children, acting in such a manner..in these cults.

Going to the lengths of literally kidnapping people from these groups and force reprogramming them, is obviously not legal and Ted Patrick did eventually serve jail time.

Some of those deprogrammed said they have as much trauma from the deprogramming, as they did from the cult.

You can see it their eyes when they talk about their kidnappings.

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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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hmm



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damned
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I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this..but seeing it made me realize how terrifying it must have been for parents to see their adult children, acting in such a manner..in these cults.

Going to the lengths of literally kidnapping people from these groups and force reprogramming them, is obviously not legal and Ted Patrick did eventually serve jail time.

Some of those deprogrammed said they have as much trauma from the deprogramming, as they did from the cult.

You can see it their eyes when they talk about their kidnappings.
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This is what happens when are raised to unquestioningly serve the machine.

The powerless must plug in.
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Too bad the IV222 threads were deleted. I visited all the tenets of deprogramming there along with synchronicity being a major portent of schizophrenia.

Groupthink is dangerous when complex issues are made simplistic.
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I still wonder what happened to IV. He had a good heart in the right place I think.

He was also funny and creative. I definitely understand the potential to surrender to a guru but was a little wiser after the fact.

Whatever was activated in me, has not changed.

:Electric:
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Thread: I'm over being a Vampire, It's Shit
Too much counting...
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IV was a full blown unmedicated schizophrenic. He used simple/non complex sync to make the unwary foster specious and fickle connections.

Daily affirmations.
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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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hmm



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damned
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I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this..but seeing it made me realize how terrifying it must have been for parents to see their adult children, acting in such a manner..in these cults.

Going to the lengths of literally kidnapping people from these groups and force reprogramming them, is obviously not legal and Ted Patrick did eventually serve jail time.

Some of those deprogrammed said they have as much trauma from the deprogramming, as they did from the cult.

You can see it their eyes when they talk about their kidnappings.
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....and even...demonic possession



Sure it was very traumatic for these parents to see their children acting contrary to established societies expectations.



Now eat the flesh, drink the blood and hush

chuckle
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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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hmm



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damned
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I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this..but seeing it made me realize how terrifying it must have been for parents to see their adult children, acting in such a manner..in these cults.

Going to the lengths of literally kidnapping people from these groups and force reprogramming them, is obviously not legal and Ted Patrick did eventually serve jail time.

Some of those deprogrammed said they have as much trauma from the deprogramming, as they did from the cult.

You can see it their eyes when they talk about their kidnappings.
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This is what happens when are raised to unquestioningly serve the machine.

The powerless must plug in.
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What is really scary is how it is kinda everywhere when you see it and those who are born into these..religions/cults and have no way to escape. It is their foundation from birth.

I noticed in the Moonie cult vid..the mass wedding were kids having been born into the group, now in their twenties. It made me realize that is all it takes to create these cults and religions is 1 generation.

At the heart of these cults seems like it is about control, money and sex for the gurus/leaders. Almost all of them fall into that trap.

Temptation.
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IV was a full blown unmedicated schizophrenic. He used simple/non complex sync to make the unwary foster specious and fickle connections.

Daily affirmations.
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I never bought a lot of what he was saying, especially about the delusions of grandeur he absolutely had. I also refused to follow hierarchy rules and was eventually banned.

The energy is real though. I feel it all the time. I feel it right now.
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Observe all of the teaching & learning systems you are able to observe.

What do all of these systems have in common?

Is it programming?
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Deprogram and Reprogram

is there more of a difference than the Consonant?
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hmm



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damned
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I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this..but seeing it made me realize how terrifying it must have been for parents to see their adult children, acting in such a manner..in these cults.

Going to the lengths of literally kidnapping people from these groups and force reprogramming them, is obviously not legal and Ted Patrick did eventually serve jail time.

Some of those deprogrammed said they have as much trauma from the deprogramming, as they did from the cult.

You can see it their eyes when they talk about their kidnappings.
 Quoting: Seer777


....and even...demonic possession



Sure it was very traumatic for these parents to see their children acting contrary to established societies expectations.



Now eat the flesh, drink the blood and hush

chuckle
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You made both the connection and the point I was trying to make.

The Mormon Mason and these men, believe they are 'the chosen one' and then convince other people they are too. Mormon Manson had a captive audience of his wives and children.
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Observe all of the teaching & learning systems you are able to observe.

What do all of these systems have in common?

Is it programming?
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I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this..but seeing it made me realize how terrifying it must have been for parents to see their adult children, acting in such a manner..in these cults.

Going to the lengths of literally kidnapping people from these groups and force reprogramming them, is obviously not legal and Ted Patrick did eventually serve jail time.

Some of those deprogrammed said they have as much trauma from the deprogramming, as they did from the cult.

You can see it their eyes when they talk about their kidnappings.
 Quoting: Seer777


....and even...demonic possession



Sure it was very traumatic for these parents to see their children acting contrary to established societies expectations.



Now eat the flesh, drink the blood and hush

chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77881023

You made both the connection and the point I was trying to make.

The Mormon Mason and these men, believe they are 'the chosen one' and then convince other people they are too. Mormon Manson had a captive audience of his wives and children.
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Seems to be a common theme among virtually every religion, political structure etc.

Christain/Muslim heaven/hell. Believe or burn as we follow the chosen one.
Buddhism caste system. We were born priests therefore superiour.
Sects that outright state they are the chosen ones - typically blood or some such.
Etc

Politics is following suit with causing that extreme divide.

Funny part in the new rick and morty. As rick jumps between dimensions he repeatedly finds himself in fascist dystopias.
"...when did this become the default!?"

All seems designed to concentrate "power" in its various forms to the few.
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You made both the connection and the point I was trying to make.

The Mormon Mason and these men, believe they are 'the chosen one' and then convince other people they are too. Mormon Manson had a captive audience of his wives and children.
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Seems to be a common theme among virtually every religion, political structure etc.

Christain/Muslim heaven/hell. Believe or burn as we follow the chosen one.
Buddhism caste system. We were born priests therefore superiour.
Sects that outright state they are the chosen ones - typically blood or some such.
Etc

Politics is following suit with causing that extreme divide.

Funny part in the new rick and morty. As rick jumps between dimensions he repeatedly finds himself in fascist dystopias.
"...when did this become the default!?"


All seems designed to concentrate "power" in its various forms to the few.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77881023

So true.
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List of Jewish messiah claimants
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^^

Look how many there are.

Huh.


Saw this too.

Thread: Sabbatai Zevi
Who cares.. He's dead.. and his teachings don't apply to today's technological society
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His teaching absolutely do apply to today...



"Sabbatai Zevi declared himself the Messiah in 1666, proclaiming that redemption was available through acts of sin. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies. A century after Sabbati Zevi's death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Jacob Frank would eventually enter into an alliance formed by Adam Weishaupt and Meyer Amshel Rothschild called the Order of the Illuminati. The objectives of this organization was to undermine the world's religions and power structures, in an effort to usher in a utopian era of global communism, which they would covertly rule by their hidden hand: the New World Order. Using secret societies, such as the Freemasons, their agenda has played itself out over the centuries, staying true to the script. The Illuminati handle opposition by a near total control of the world's media, academic opinion leaders, politicians and financiers."

Excerpt from: 1666 Redemption Through Sin
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Observe all of the teaching & learning systems you are able to observe.

What do all of these systems have in common?

Is it programming?
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The method of dispensation of belief.
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Is there a reason to revisit 2011??
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Is there a reason to revisit 2011??
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I wasn't here for most of 2011.

It was something that struck me in the Mormon Manson documentary. These men have 'visions' and then claim to 'the messiah' or the chosen one.

His brother, the one he had killed, is still viewed in that manner in the group.

It just all seems so silly now. All of it. Devious too. The dissonance is gone though. I feel like I see it clearer now that I'm on the outside. At least for now.
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Hi there...
My new roommate says she has had sex with what she describes as black shadows. Sometimes she feels them laying next to her in the bed.
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List of Jewish messiah claimants
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

^^

Look how many there are.

Huh.


Saw this too.

Thread: Sabbatai Zevi
Who cares.. He's dead.. and his teachings don't apply to today's technological society
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68561132


His teaching absolutely do apply to today...



"Sabbatai Zevi declared himself the Messiah in 1666, proclaiming that redemption was available through acts of sin. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies. A century after Sabbati Zevi's death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Jacob Frank would eventually enter into an alliance formed by Adam Weishaupt and Meyer Amshel Rothschild called the Order of the Illuminati. The objectives of this organization was to undermine the world's religions and power structures, in an effort to usher in a utopian era of global communism, which they would covertly rule by their hidden hand: the New World Order. Using secret societies, such as the Freemasons, their agenda has played itself out over the centuries, staying true to the script. The Illuminati handle opposition by a near total control of the world's media, academic opinion leaders, politicians and financiers."

Excerpt from: 1666 Redemption Through Sin
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There are many jewish messiah claimants. I actually knew one at this rehab who recently got kicked out for relapsing. He wanted to bomb the temple mosque, said he was king of israel, and also the messiah. He was not noticeably insane except for in that way.
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List of Jewish messiah claimants
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^^

Look how many there are.

Huh.


Saw this too.

Thread: Sabbatai Zevi
Who cares.. He's dead.. and his teachings don't apply to today's technological society
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68561132


His teaching absolutely do apply to today...



"Sabbatai Zevi declared himself the Messiah in 1666, proclaiming that redemption was available through acts of sin. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies. A century after Sabbati Zevi's death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Jacob Frank would eventually enter into an alliance formed by Adam Weishaupt and Meyer Amshel Rothschild called the Order of the Illuminati. The objectives of this organization was to undermine the world's religions and power structures, in an effort to usher in a utopian era of global communism, which they would covertly rule by their hidden hand: the New World Order. Using secret societies, such as the Freemasons, their agenda has played itself out over the centuries, staying true to the script. The Illuminati handle opposition by a near total control of the world's media, academic opinion leaders, politicians and financiers."

Excerpt from: 1666 Redemption Through Sin
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 Quoting: Seer777


There are many jewish messiah claimants. I actually knew one at this rehab who recently got kicked out for relapsing. He wanted to bomb the temple mosque, said he was king of israel, and also the messiah. He was not noticeably insane except for in that way.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I get that people claim it, I just didn't expect to see a list like that on wiki. They are listed along with Jesus..which I think is what is throwing me.

Tying it together with the recent cult topic and I can clearly see the common thread.
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Hi there...
My new roommate says she has had sex with what she describes as black shadows. Sometimes she feels them laying next to her in the bed.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I think it is far more common than people let on.
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Hi there...
My new roommate says she has had sex with what she describes as black shadows. Sometimes she feels them laying next to her in the bed.
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I think it is far more common than people let on.
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I really like her. I think she's rather special.
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Hi there...
My new roommate says she has had sex with what she describes as black shadows. Sometimes she feels them laying next to her in the bed.
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I think it is far more common than people let on.
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I really like her. I think she's rather special.
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Good to hear. What else did she tell you about it? Seems like something super intimate to tell you so quickly.

I read an article a couple months back where a female singer said much the same.
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There is also a movie about it called The Entity that was supposedly based on a true story, back in the 80s.




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Is there a reason to revisit 2011??
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I wasn't here for most of 2011.

It was something that struck me in the Mormon Manson documentary. These men have 'visions' and then claim to 'the messiah' or the chosen one.

His brother, the one he had killed, is still viewed in that manner in the group.

It just all seems so silly now. All of it. Devious too. The dissonance is gone though. I feel like I see it clearer now that I'm on the outside. At least for now.
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Of course: creating the mode of dispensation. Much like the Rockefellers control most forms of transactive energy.

All a cult is is a 'small' organization with common beliefs.

What makes people think workaday society is any less onerous or debilitating?
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Jerusalem syndrome

Jerusalem syndrome is a group of mental phenomena involving the presence of religiously-themed obsessive ideas, delusions, or other psychosis-like experiences that are triggered by a visit to the city of Jerusalem.

It is not endemic to one single religion or denomination but has affected J-ws, Christians, and Muslims of many different backgrounds.

The best known, although not the most prevalent, manifestation of Jerusalem syndrome is the phenomenon whereby a person who seems previously balanced and devoid of any signs of psychopathology becomes psychotic after arriving in Jerusalem.

The psychosis is characterized by an intense religious theme and typically resolves to full recovery after a few weeks or after being removed from the area.

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