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ROMAN CHRISTIAN APOSTLE PAUL AND ROMAN STOIC PHILOSOPHER SENECA RELIGION

 
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ROMAN CHRISTIAN APOSTLE PAUL AND ROMAN STOIC PHILOSOPHER SENECA RELIGION
ROMAN CHRISTIAN APOSTLE PAUL AND ROMAN STOIC PHILOSOPHER SENECA
Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4 - 65)

Lucius Annaeus Seneca (often known simply as Seneca; ca. 4 BC – AD 65) was a Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, and in one work humorist, of the Silver Age of Latin literature. He was tutor and later advisor to emperor Nero. While he was later forced to commit suicide for alleged complicity in the Pisonian conspiracy to assassinate Nero, the last of the Julio-Claudian emperors, he may have been innocent.

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Moral Letters, Vol. I

Lucius Annaeus SENECA (4 - 65), translated by Richard M. GUMMERE (1883 - 1969)

"Among the personalities of the early Roman Empire there are few who offer to the readers of to-day such dramatic interest as does Lucius Annaeus Seneca, the author of the Epistles which are translated in this volume. ... In these letters, it is impossible to ignore the advance from a somewhat stiff and Ciceronian point of view into the attractive and debatable land of what one may fairly call modern ideas. The style of the Epistles is bold, and so is the thought."

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Of Peace of Mind

Lucius Annaeus SENECA (4 - 65)

How to maintain a tranquil mind amongst social upheaval and turmoil, addressed to Serenus.

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Of the Shortness of Life

Lucius Annaeus SENECA (4 - 65), translated by Aubrey STEWART (1844 - 1918)

Seneca the Younger wrote the moral essay "De Brevitate Vitae" — "On the Shortness of Life" — to his friend Paulinus. The philosopher brings up many Stoic principles on the nature of time, namely that men waste much of it in meaningless pursuits. According to the essay, nature gives man enough time to do what is really important and the individual must allot it properly.

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Seneca the Younger Epistles 1-5:


Seneca the Younger Epistles 6-10:


Seneca the Younger Epistles 11-15:


Seneca the Younger Epistles 16-20:


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SOME QUOTES FROM SENECA'S WORKS:

"If a man lies with his wife as if she were another man's wife, he will be an adulterer, though she will not be an adulteress."

– Seneca, On Firmness, vii.

"God is near you, he is with you, he is within you. This is what I mean, Lucilius: a holy spirit indwells within us, one who marks our good and bad deeds, and is our guardian. As we treat this spirit, so are we treated by it. Indeed, no man can be good without the help of God. Can one rise superior to fortune unless God helps him to rise? "

– Seneca, Epistle 41.

"If you want to be loved, love." - Seneca, Epistulae Morales 9.

"Take care not to harm others, so others won't harm you." - Seneca, Epistulae Morale 103.

"No one can lead a happy life if he thinks only of himself and turns everything to his own purposes. You should live for the other person if you wish to live for yourself." – Seneca, Epistulae Morales 48


" Do not, my Lucilius, attend the games, I pray you. Either you will be corrupted by the multitude, or, if you show disgust, be hated by them. So stay away."

– Seneca, Epistulae Morales 7

"It's a pitiably small-minded person who gives bite for bite." - Seneca, De Ira, 11

" We shall never desist from working for the common good, helping one another, and even our enemies, till our helping hand is stricken with age."

- Seneca, De Otio

"It is a denial of justice not to stretch out a helping hand to the fallen; that is the common right of humanity."

– Seneca the Elder

"The greatest wealth is a poverty of desires."

– Seneca, Epistulae Morales 70.

"It is not the man who has too little, but the man who craves more, that is poor."

– Seneca, Epistulae Morales 64.

"Only the person who has despised wealth is worthy of God."

- Seneca, Epistulae Morales 58.

" 'They are slaves,' people declare. NO, rather they are men.
'Slaves! NO, comrades.
'Slaves! NO, they are unpretentious friends.
'Slaves! NO, they are our fellow-slaves, if one reflects that Fortune has equal rights over slaves and free men alike. That is why I smile at those who think it degrading for a man to dine with his slave.

But why should they think it degrading? It is only purse-proud etiquette ... All night long they must stand about hungry and dumb ... They are not enemies when we acquire them; we make them enemies ... This is the kernel of my advice: Treat your inferiors as you would be treated by your betters.

'He is a slave.' His soul, however, may be that of a free man."

– Seneca the Younger, Epistulae Morales, 47.

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SENECA'S BROTHER IN THE BOOK OF ACTS

This is interesting to say the least. Lucius Junius Gallio Annaeanus, the brother of Lucius Annaeus Seneca also known as Seneca the Younger listed above, was in the biblical Book of Acts. Interesting in the sense that Seneca's works and Paul's have an uncanny resemblance. Seneca was also the tutor and later advisor to Roman Emperor Nero.

Wiki link for Gallio:
Lucius Junius Gallio Annaeanus
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gallio in the Book of Acts 18:12–17 NLT

12 But when Gallio became governor of Achaia, some Jews rose up together against Paul and brought him before the governor for judgment. 13 They accused Paul of “persuading people to worship God in ways that are contrary to our law.”

14 But just as Paul started to make his defense, Gallio turned to Paul’s accusers and said, “Listen, you Jews, if this were a case involving some wrongdoing or a serious crime, I would have a reason to accept your case. 15 But since it is merely a question of words and names and your Jewish law, take care of it yourselves. I refuse to judge such matters.” 16 And he threw them out of the courtroom.

17 The crowd[a] then grabbed Sosthenes, the leader of the synagogue, and beat him right there in the courtroom. But Gallio paid no attention.

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THE DEATH OF SENECA AND PAUL

Seneca, like Paul, was a Roman citizen and also put to death by ROMAN EMPEROR NERO IN A.D. 65.

"Concerning the time, place, and manner of his death, we have little certainty. It is commonly believed that, when a general persecution was raised against the Christians by Nero, about A.D. 64, under pretence that they had set Rome on fire, both St. Paul and St. Peter then sealed the truth with their blood; the latter being crucified with his head downward; the former being beheaded, either in A.D. 64 or 65, and buried in the Via Ostiensis. EUSEBIUS, Hist, Eccles. lib. ii. cap. 25

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EPISTLES BETWEEN PAUL AND SENECA

As you can see, Seneca and Paul's lives and writings were so similar, the early church forged letters of correspondence between them, to justify how they could be so similar:

Epistle to Seneca the Younger
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Epistle to Seneca the Younger is a collection of correspondence claiming to be from Paul the Apostle to Seneca the Younger. There are 8 epistles from Seneca, and 6 replies from Paul.[1] Jerome mentioned them in his De Viris Illustribus (chap. 12).[2] However, they are widely held to be forged, as J. B. Lightfoot noted:
"The poverty of thought and style, the errors in chronology and history, and the whole conception of the relative positions of the Stoic philosopher and the Christian Apostle, betray clearly the hand of a forger."[3]
Philip Schaff in his history said: "They are very poor in thought and style, full of errors of chronology and history, and undoubtedly a forgery."[4] Again, Lightfoot said:
"This correspondence was probably forged in the fourth century, either to recommend Seneca to Christian readers or to recommend Christianity to students of Seneca.""As they are now universally allowed to be spurious, it will be unnecessary to state at length the grounds of their condemnation. It is sufficient to say that the letters are inane and unworthy throughout; that the style of either correspondent is unlike his genuine writings; that the relations between the two, as there represented, are highly improbable; and lastly, that the chronological notices (which however are absent in some important MSS) are wrong in almost every instance. Thus, independently of the unbroken silence of three centuries and a half about this correspondence, internal evidence alone is sufficient to condemn them hopelessly."[5]

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Another interesting coincidence. Seneca's wife was named
Paulina, a woman version of the name Paul:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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The works of Seneca, Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus have allowed me to live a tranquil life. Stoicism is a way of life I am glad I discovered.
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The works of Seneca, Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus have allowed me to live a tranquil life. Stoicism is a way of life I am glad I discovered.
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I think they are assholes.





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