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SeVeN Saints (OP) User ID: 67692036 United States 05/15/2015 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most indications are that the CSX train in question was a couple of tracks away. In the first night pictures, you can see its tanker cars sitting there only feet away from the crashed Amtrak engine. But where has the CSX engine gone, and why did it leave? Here's a hi res showing where the CSX (tanker) car was: [link to i.imgur.com] For those saying the cat pole took out #2...it's clear that #3 hit it, not #2: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69203804 [link to media.cmgdigital.com] are you sure it hit a pole? See the image linked in pvs comment [link to media.cmgdigital.com] so the in tact car hit a pole, but not the obliterated car? SeVeN Saints |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33002248 United States 05/15/2015 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't predict who's going to die from a train wreck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57205020 what if the intended targets were seated and able to hang on to something. this can't possibly be a single target job. more likely a mass distraction. at least one car was totally obliterated. Somebody with the right mathematical skills could be able to calculate the necessary speed and timing to greatly increase the probability that certain cars get most of the damage. Would be complicated, but possible. The necessary speed and timing was probably an explosive device on the track. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69203804 United States 05/15/2015 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69203804 Most indications are that the CSX train in question was a couple of tracks away. In the first night pictures, you can see its tanker cars sitting there only feet away from the crashed Amtrak engine. But where has the CSX engine gone, and why did it leave? Here's a hi res showing where the CSX (tanker) car was: [link to i.imgur.com] For those saying the cat pole took out #2...it's clear that #3 hit it, not #2: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69203804 [link to media.cmgdigital.com] are you sure it hit a pole? See the image linked in pvs comment [link to media.cmgdigital.com] so the in tact car hit a pole, but not the obliterated car? If you look at the path on which the train left the track, the obliterated car would have to have destroyed itself on the pole, and then moved back away from it in order to let the car behind it hit that same pole (and not get obliterated). I just doesn't make sense to have an obliterated car that is not physically touching the pole in question, yet have a different unobliterated car that is still touching the pole. If the obliterated car had annihilated itself on the pole and somehow been followed by the second car which then came to rest on the pole, I supposed that's possible; but the car that came to rest on the pole is ahead of the obliterated car. Somehow that obliterated car blew to smithereens while no other car did; and it's not touching any pole. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69203804 United States 05/15/2015 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rest of the train crash isn't consistent with a high speed crash. The bulk of the train is intact; if the train had really been going 106 etc., those other cars would have experienced far more violence. This looks for all the world like a train that slowly left the tracks. The engine isn't far from its original track. On top of it all, we have multiple witness reports of seeing and hearing loud explosions. While anything is possible, the evidence is simply more consistent with a purposeful derailment and detonation: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1502983 Canada 05/15/2015 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Source told me there were souls on that train that had to leave. Apparently a cleanup of timeline merge. But as I look at them no one of immediate world importance is recognized, and except for the broadcast technician no one that would be concern. He might have knowledge of the grey mind stimulation frames and the hardware. The others are pretty high profile. The education girl might have new learning tools and something developing. It might be the 8th unreleased victim Jim Gaines: He was a video software architect, meaning he worked on the wire's distribution of news video to customers around the world. (Personal Note: Could know about the encryption software feeding mind control data) (Note: 48, 12/3) Abid Gilani: He was senior vice president of its hospitality finance group and was a valued member of the division, a company spokeswoman said. (Note: 55 or 55/1) Rachel Jacobs: Chief executive of the small tech company ApprenNet, and co-founder. Seemingly benign educational software company, involved in school education. (Note: 39, or a 12/3) Derrick Griffith: Dean of student affairs for City University of New York Medgar Evers College and founding director of CUNY Prep in New York, Fraser said. He earned his doctorate in philosophy last month. Bob Gildersleeve: Executive at Ecolab, a St. Paul, Minnesota-based chemical company. Laura Finamore: Finamore worked in commercial real estate as a senior account director at Cushman & Wakefield. (Notes: 47 47/2)  |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giuseppe Piras was heading to New York City on doomed Amtrak train 188 to sell wine and olive oil on behalf of a cooperative in his native Sardinia. [link to www.nydailynews.com] You forgot the olive oil salesman. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61587082 United States 05/15/2015 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why was CSX sitting there with lights on? Was it really Amtrak who sounded the horn, or CSX? When you're about to plow into something, don't you lay on the horn hard and not let up (that's what my neighborhood trains do if they're worried about something)? Instead, witnesses report a series of short blasts. This would be far more distinguishable as an audio signal to a saboteur. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28032624 United States 05/15/2015 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why was CSX sitting there with lights on? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61587082 Was it really Amtrak who sounded the horn, or CSX? When you're about to plow into something, don't you lay on the horn hard and not let up (that's what my neighborhood trains do if they're worried about something)? Instead, witnesses report a series of short blasts. This would be far more distinguishable as an audio signal to a saboteur. was, or wasn't it a bomb that blasted that one car to smithereens? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Penn State says its College of Engineering hit by 2 data breaches - @Reuters [link to www.breakingnews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More: Penn State says it has shut down its College of Engineering computer network following 'sophisticated cyberattack' - @CNBCnow [link to www.breakingnews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28032624 United States 05/15/2015 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More: Penn State says it has shut down its College of Engineering computer network following 'sophisticated cyberattack' - @CNBCnow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62576803 [link to www.breakingnews.com] isn't that where all those football child molesters was? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 14 people in federal custody connected to heroin, cocaine distribution ring in Clairton, Pa., area - @WPXIJoeHolden [link to www.breakingnews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | University of Pittsburgh Medical Center says some patients' personal information may have been compromised in data theft - @WTAE [link to www.breakingnews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More: Penn State says it has shut down its College of Engineering computer network following 'sophisticated cyberattack' - @CNBCnow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62576803 [link to www.breakingnews.com] isn't that where all those football child molesters was? . Just shocked that Pennsylvania is in the news so much in just the last couple of hours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62576803 United States 05/15/2015 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Statement from #Siemens on #AmtrakDerailment involving one of its electric locomotives: [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Outer Limits User ID: 69018629 United States 05/15/2015 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 32m32 minutes ago Quoting: SeVeN Saints NTSB: #Amtrak188 Sped Up For About a Minute Before Derailing at Curve Im having a hard time seeing this as not being intentional. I keep going back to one of the 7 dead being the Wells Fargo Senior VP "Sumwalt said video from inside the cabin shows that 65 seconds before the crash, the train’s speed went above 70 mph. Just 16 seconds before the end of the recording, the train’s speed went above 100 mph, Sumwalt added." [link to abcnews.go.com] I mean cmon, is it really even a question at this point?? EDIT: SPEED CONTROL TOOL COULD HAVE PREVENTED DERAILMENT "The area where the crash occurred did not have a speed control system that is in place throughout most of Amtrak's rails across the Northeast Corridor meant to prevent such deadly accidents, investigators have revealed." [link to abcnews.go.com] coincidence probably.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My prediction.. The head Engineer driver of Amtrak #188 will be found guilty of negligent homicide of 8 deaths from Philadelphia Amtrak Train Incident. With a minimum of 2 to 3 years for accidental negligent homicide with 8 deaths from train incident, the Train Engineer will receive a minimum 16 year to 24 year Federal Prison Stint, probably the upper limit because of other critical and serious injured passengers. Even with best top lawyer the Amtrak Engineer will have, he will do a minimum of 24 years fixed in Federal Prison with no parole or lowering of time served. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68422140 United Kingdom 05/15/2015 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breaking911 ‏@Breaking911 32m32 minutes ago Quoting: SeVeN Saints NTSB: #Amtrak188 Sped Up For About a Minute Before Derailing at Curve Im having a hard time seeing this as not being intentional. I keep going back to one of the 7 dead being the Wells Fargo Senior VP "Sumwalt said video from inside the cabin shows that 65 seconds before the crash, the train’s speed went above 70 mph. Just 16 seconds before the end of the recording, the train’s speed went above 100 mph, Sumwalt added." [link to abcnews.go.com] I mean cmon, is it really even a question at this point?? EDIT: SPEED CONTROL TOOL COULD HAVE PREVENTED DERAILMENT "The area where the crash occurred did not have a speed control system that is in place throughout most of Amtrak's rails across the Northeast Corridor meant to prevent such deadly accidents, investigators have revealed." [link to abcnews.go.com] coincidence probably.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My prediction.. The head Engineer driver of Amtrak #188 will be found guilty of negligent homicide of 8 deaths from Philadelphia Amtrak Train Incident. With a minimum of 2 to 3 years for accidental negligent homicide with 8 deaths from train incident, the Train Engineer will receive a minimum 16 year to 24 year Federal Prison Stint, probably the upper limit because of other critical and serious injured passengers. Even with best top lawyer the Amtrak Engineer will have, he will do a minimum of 24 years fixed in Federal Prison with no parole or lowering of time served. No way. The guy is a Militant Homo, which is a protected class. He'll do time served, at worst. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18263388 United States 05/15/2015 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The driver of this train remember going into the curve and remembers nothing after that until waking up LOOKING FOR HIS CELL PHONE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37775745 I would be interested to see what the last number that called him was. Anyone remember the movie "Telefon". A phone call sets off a brainwashed agent to kill. Here's what's curious to me. My cell phone is ON MY PERSON AT ALL TIMES. It's not being held in my hand, unless I'm on it. It's in a case on my belt, or IN MY POCKET. The fact that he states he went "looking for his ... phone" says to me that he WAS USING IT. Either he was texting, reading, or distracted talking to someone and it jiggled loose during the collision. That's what his statement says to me. The more curious part of this equation is the train speeding up just prior to derailing. WTH??? Was he not paying attention, cause he was texting, and accidentally pushed on the accelerator (or whatever the thingy you speed up a train with is called)? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66180060 United States 05/15/2015 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this was homicide, I doubt it would be negligent. At any rate, honking the horn doesn't jive with accidentally OR intentionally speeding up--and neither does that massive explosion. One look at those cars tells you this was no 100mph train derailment. That's pure fiction to cover up whatever they know--or don't know--of what really happened. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68888181 United States 05/15/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anything this was caused so the issue of more government funding for rail infrastructure would come about. Quoting: The Årtist There's only a handful of people that benefit from the government footing the bill on rail infrastructure. Warren Buffett is one of them. Rails are owned and maintained by the railroads, not the government. But, creating a situation where you could get the government to give you money to fix the rails instead of ti coming out of your bottom line, well, that's hugely beneficial. just in case you and anyone else is unaware of this: Amtrak is a GOVERNMENT OWNED CORPORATION. |
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