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Florida Stevii User ID: 76792171 United States 11/28/2019 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.aulis.com (secure)] Some conclusions from the study The Apollo 15 photographic record contradicts the stereoscopic parallax verification method. The apparent change in the relative positions of objects by moving the camera when the camera angles are separated by several tens of cms show that: -the distance to distant objects such as mountains is not tens of kilometres but is no more than a few hundred metres; -the landscape is not continuous, but with clear lines of separation; -there is movement between nearby sections of the panorama relative to other sections. Thus, based on the above examples, this study concludes that the Apollo 15 photographic record does NOT depict real lunarscapes with distant backgrounds located more than a kilometre away from the camera. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76018584 United States 11/28/2019 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When a question is asked for an obvious strange thing such as no dust on landing gear... or no blast evidence, or Van Allen belts penetration... or whatever the other thousands of questions are ... and the explanation is , "your a retard" then ya know there is a problem. Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 Feeling the need to ask questions that have literally been answered tens of thousands of times is certainly indicative of a learning disability. [citation needed] They made it obvious in late 70's films. Both 'Diamonds Are Forever' and 'Being There' feature staged moon sets and props. Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78206897 With "arguments" and "evidence" like these it is no wonder that even other CTers point and laugh at hoaxies. Than why are you this ignorant? Fallacious. as NO not all the questions have been answered in a way that explains them Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 Unadulterated BULLSHIT! Also, questions aren't evidence. If YOU accuse tens of thousands of people of having committed fraud than surely YOU carry the burden of proof? Otherwise you are nothing but a slanderer. Nope, we don't know that. Your delusions and ignorance are not facts. Disinfo peddling and "I don't understand it" well never prove anything. Meanwhile the people who aren't ignorant consider the manned landing proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Hoaxies are irrational and ignorant. Prove me wrong. You sound like a truly pathetic scared little child. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109820 United States 11/28/2019 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lunar satellites from various nations orbiting the moon with high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment easily found on the web. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76574987 Only a fucking fool believes the fake moon bullshit. I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Please provide a link to one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76725248 United States 11/28/2019 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When a question is asked for an obvious strange thing such as no dust on landing gear... or no blast evidence, or Van Allen belts penetration... or whatever the other thousands of questions are ... and the explanation is , "your a retard" then ya know there is a problem. Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 Feeling the need to ask questions that have literally been answered tens of thousands of times is certainly indicative of a learning disability. [citation needed] They made it obvious in late 70's films. Both 'Diamonds Are Forever' and 'Being There' feature staged moon sets and props. Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78206897 With "arguments" and "evidence" like these it is no wonder that even other CTers point and laugh at hoaxies. Than why are you this ignorant? Fallacious. as NO not all the questions have been answered in a way that explains them Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 Unadulterated BULLSHIT! Also, questions aren't evidence. If YOU accuse tens of thousands of people of having committed fraud than surely YOU carry the burden of proof? Otherwise you are nothing but a slanderer. Nope, we don't know that. Your delusions and ignorance are not facts. Disinfo peddling and "I don't understand it" well never prove anything. Meanwhile the people who aren't ignorant consider the manned landing proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Hoaxies are irrational and ignorant. Prove me wrong. How did the magic spacesuits work? There were extreme temps in the sun and in the shadows.If they turned too fast they would either roast or freeze. Never could figure that out. |
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 76260827 Netherlands 11/28/2019 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No dust on the landing gear and no blast evidence have most certainly NOT been answered by shills for the official story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74621892 Why do you lie? Why do hoaxies lie al the time? WTF is wrong with you people? "studies"? Some engineer you are to fall for fraudulent crap like that. Aulis is for-profit conspiracy-mongering site. A bunk-factory so prolific debunkers can barely keep up. They are NOT interested in truth, the only thing they want is your money. If you limit your "research" to conspiracrap like that it is no wonder you are confused. As I said all hoaxies are ignorant of Apollo, the only things they think they know are lies, half-truths, and confabulations. None of them can ever be bothered to actually learn what it is they claim not to believe, IOW the actual historical record. And you are yet another conspiracy-monger who failed to prove a single point. I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78109820 Please provide a link to one. Really? You don't know how to use a search engine? Hoaxies have the research skills of a dodo. A dead dodo. How did the magic spacesuits work? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76725248 There were extreme temps in the sun and in the shadows.If they turned too fast they would either roast or freeze. Never could figure that out. So there is something you don't know or understand? Why should the grown-ups fucking care? IGNORANCE will never be proof of anything. If YOU have a point to make, you actually have to make it. If YOU claim that spacesuits don't work space, YOU will have to prove so. And if you don't know how getting educated is YOUR responsibility. For over 50 years hoaxies have been unable to provide ANY relevant EVIDENCE. Fair conclusion is that that is because such evidence doesn't exist, or because all hoaxies are incompetent. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76574987 United States 11/28/2019 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lunar satellites from various nations orbiting the moon with high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment easily found on the web. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76574987 Only a fucking fool believes the fake moon bullshit. I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Please provide a link to one. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74390592 United States 11/28/2019 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi there. Quoting: Kable_KaiPerhapse i missed something, but i think the video of the apollo crew fudging a shot out the window was very telling. Is there some other explanation for this? Thanks Paul. Yes there is , the video is completely taken out of its context and used as propaganda in a 'made up' or invented context There you go Soon.....what were they doing? A u l I s dot com Your welcome!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47752129 Canada 11/28/2019 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three weeks before Apollo 11, they sent a monkey up in space. The experiment was to last a month, to see how the monkey handled being in space, you know, exposed to radiation, that long. It was cancelled after 8 days. The monkey was DOA. And STILL, they went ahead with Apollo 11 just days later. Having changed nothing! LOL This was called Biosatellite 3, for those interested. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 76260827 Netherlands 11/28/2019 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three weeks before Apollo 11, they sent a monkey up in space. Quoting: Canatard 47752129 The experiment was to last a month, to see how the monkey handled being in space, you know, exposed to radiation, that long. And another liar. This isn't about truth-finding at all, isn't it? Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78208113 New Zealand 11/28/2019 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three weeks before Apollo 11, they sent a monkey up in space. Quoting: Canatard 47752129 The experiment was to last a month, to see how the monkey handled being in space, you know, exposed to radiation, that long. And another liar. This isn't about truth-finding at all, isn't it? this guy, you people lol he clearly has a vested interest in the "we lost all the documentation on how we got there" " people" , i can smell it's agitation from here, as it posts not a shred of evidence, just barking like a rapid dog :D |
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Neil WeakLegs User ID: 77365971 United States 11/28/2019 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be interesting to see in the next few years what will happen with SpaceX "Dear Moon" project. Will it actually happen? Will SpaceX be allowed to take random people on a tour around the Moon? Or will some gov't regulations or other issue prevent it from happening? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109820 United States 11/29/2019 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are lunar satellites from various nations orbiting the moon with high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment easily found on the web. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76574987 Only a fucking fool believes the fake moon bullshit. I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Please provide a link to one. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] "high res photos" Perhaps you were born in this millennium, and don't understand the artificial limits on modern technology, however those of us who have been working with computers since the seventies don't call those images "hi-res", we call them pixelated. Got anything up to modern standards? |
Florida Stevii User ID: 76792171 United States 11/29/2019 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No dust on the landing gear and no blast evidence have most certainly NOT been answered by shills for the official story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74621892 Why do you lie? Why do hoaxies lie al the time? WTF is wrong with you people? "studies"? Some engineer you are to fall for fraudulent crap like that. Aulis is for-profit conspiracy-mongering site. A bunk-factory so prolific debunkers can barely keep up. They are NOT interested in truth, the only thing they want is your money. If you limit your "research" to conspiracrap like that it is no wonder you are confused. As I said all hoaxies are ignorant of Apollo, the only things they think they know are lies, half-truths, and confabulations. None of them can ever be bothered to actually learn what it is they claim not to believe, IOW the actual historical record. And you are yet another conspiracy-monger who failed to prove a single point. I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78109820 Please provide a link to one. Really? You don't know how to use a search engine? Hoaxies have the research skills of a dodo. A dead dodo. How did the magic spacesuits work? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76725248 There were extreme temps in the sun and in the shadows.If they turned too fast they would either roast or freeze. Never could figure that out. So there is something you don't know or understand? Why should the grown-ups fucking care? IGNORANCE will never be proof of anything. If YOU have a point to make, you actually have to make it. If YOU claim that spacesuits don't work space, YOU will have to prove so. And if you don't know how getting educated is YOUR responsibility. For over 50 years hoaxies have been unable to provide ANY relevant EVIDENCE. Fair conclusion is that that is because such evidence doesn't exist, or because all hoaxies are incompetent. Ok parallax is bunk... haha Its only an accepted methodology for how complex distances and perceptions are calculated and it is used in science and engineering all the time silly rabbit... And more ad hominems from you...which while very emotional and personal is not very scientific... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109820 United States 11/29/2019 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Quoting: Anonymous Genius 78109820 Please provide a link to one. Really? You don't know how to use a search engine? Hoaxies have the research skills of a dodo. A dead dodo. Mega fail. There are lunar satellites from various nations orbiting the moon with high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment easily found on the web. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76574987 Only a fucking fool believes the fake moon bullshit. I would like to see some of those "high res photos of each landing area, footprints and left equipment". Please provide a link to one. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] "high res photos" Perhaps you were born in this millennium, and don't understand the artificial limits on modern technology, however those of us who have been working with computers since the seventies don't call those images "hi-res", we call them pixelated. Got anything up to modern standards? Those of us who have been working with computers since the seventies don't call those images "hi-res", we call them pixelated. Got anything up to modern standards? |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 76260827 Netherlands 11/29/2019 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ad hominem. IOW yet another hoaxie post bereft of evidence in support of their accusations using a logical fallacy to try to distract from that fact. You know, it might be smarter not to say anything at all, because every time a hoaxie opens their mouth they say "I got nothing." Fine example of your typical hoaxie misinformation. Hoaxies lie, it's what they do. Boohoo. Don't like to be called out as an ignorant idiot? Than don't act like an ignorant idiot. Hoaxism might be not as evil as holocaust denialism, or not as brain-dead as flaterism, but it is certainly at the bottom of the CT barrel. ACCUSER HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF! But you are to much of a coward to even try. Also to ignorant, and to stupid. For over 50 years hoaxies have been unable to provide ANY relevant EVIDENCE. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD Fair conclusion is that that is because such evidence doesn't exist, or because all hoaxies are incompetent. (Or both.) Ok parallax is bunk... haha NO! Aulis is bunk. They are good at concocting sciency sounding nonsense written by "experts" nobody has ever heard off. It might fool the gullible and the ignorant, but once it reaches the ears of actual engineers and scientists it only induces laughing fits. (Using "evidence" you don't understand yourself is a fools errand.) For nearly a decade a €50,000 award was offered for scientific proof that falsifies any part of the Apollo record. There were only a handful of attempts, none by the professional hoax-mongers. Those know that they are full of shit. Face it, Percy and Bennett are conspiracy entrepreneurs, interested in pursuing fat bank accounts, not truth. Those of us who have been working with computers since the seventies don't call those images "hi-res", we call them pixelated. Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78109820 Got anything up to modern standards? 25 cm/pixel is very high resolution for remote sensing. So yet another dolt pretending to know what they are talking about. Also noticed you couldn't be bothered to do anything else but whine, I gather that is because you know you are unable to impeach this evidence. *Yawn* I went fresh hoaxies. With fresh claims, not PRATTs. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109820 United States 11/29/2019 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those of us who have been working with computers since the seventies don't call those images "hi-res", we call them pixelated. Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78109820 Got anything up to modern standards? 25 cm/pixel is very high resolution for remote sensing. So yet another dolt pretending to know what they are talking about. Also noticed you couldn't be bothered to do anything else but whine, I gather that is because you know you are unable to impeach this evidence. *Yawn* I went fresh hoaxies. With fresh claims, not PRATTs. At 25 cm. a pixel, the Intrepid measures out to about 2 meters. Seems a bit narrow to me. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Or were you referring to some other picture? Care to link to it? If we can get 10cm from earth orbit, we should be able to get half that in lunar orbit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109820 United States 11/29/2019 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those of us who have been working with computers since the seventies don't call those images "hi-res", we call them pixelated. Quoting: Anonymous Genius 78109820 Got anything up to modern standards? 25 cm/pixel is very high resolution for remote sensing. So yet another dolt pretending to know what they are talking about. Also noticed you couldn't be bothered to do anything else but whine, I gather that is because you know you are unable to impeach this evidence. *Yawn* I went fresh hoaxies. With fresh claims, not PRATTs. At 25 cm. a pixel, the Intrepid measures out to about 2 meters. Seems a bit narrow to me. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Or were you referring to some other picture? Care to link to it? If we can get 10cm from earth orbit, we should be able to get half that in lunar orbit. This here is saying 13 feet, 31 from outer leg to outer leg. [link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)] |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 76260827 Netherlands 11/29/2019 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At 25 cm. a pixel, the Intrepid measures out to about 2 meters. Seems a bit narrow to me. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Or were you referring to some other picture? Care to link to it? If we can get 10cm from earth orbit, we should be able to get half that in lunar orbit. Why are you trying to make you being research-challenged my problem? As I said, hoaxies are never interested in seeking out the truth, only in keeping their fake "controversy" alive. It makes them feel special. They are special alright... Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109820 United States 11/29/2019 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At 25 cm. a pixel, the Intrepid measures out to about 2 meters. Seems a bit narrow to me. [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] Or were you referring to some other picture? Care to link to it? If we can get 10cm from earth orbit, we should be able to get half that in lunar orbit. Why are you trying to make you being research-challenged my problem? As I said, hoaxies are never interested in seeking out the truth, only in keeping their fake "controversy" alive. It makes them feel special. They are special alright... So that was a no providing a link to the example with resolution specifications you claim? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76725248 United States 11/29/2019 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When a question is asked for an obvious strange thing such as no dust on landing gear... or no blast evidence, or Van Allen belts penetration... or whatever the other thousands of questions are ... and the explanation is , "your a retard" then ya know there is a problem. Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 Feeling the need to ask questions that have literally been answered tens of thousands of times is certainly indicative of a learning disability. [citation needed] They made it obvious in late 70's films. Both 'Diamonds Are Forever' and 'Being There' feature staged moon sets and props. Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78206897 With "arguments" and "evidence" like these it is no wonder that even other CTers point and laugh at hoaxies. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77732153 Than why are you this ignorant? ... Fallacious. ... Unadulterated BULLSHIT! Also, questions aren't evidence. If YOU accuse tens of thousands of people of having committed fraud than surely YOU carry the burden of proof? Otherwise you are nothing but a slanderer. ... Nope, we don't know that. Your delusions and ignorance are not facts. Disinfo peddling and "I don't understand it" well never prove anything. Meanwhile the people who aren't ignorant consider the manned landing proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Hoaxies are irrational and ignorant. Prove me wrong. How did the magic spacesuits work? There were extreme temps in the sun and in the shadows.If they turned too fast they would either roast or freeze. Never could figure that out. So why aren't the suits used for fire rescues? hmmm. |
Florida Stevii User ID: 76792171 United States 11/29/2019 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When a question is asked for an obvious strange thing such as no dust on landing gear... or no blast evidence, or Van Allen belts penetration... or whatever the other thousands of questions are ... and the explanation is , "your a retard" then ya know there is a problem. Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 Feeling the need to ask questions that have literally been answered tens of thousands of times is certainly indicative of a learning disability. [citation needed] They made it obvious in late 70's films. Both 'Diamonds Are Forever' and 'Being There' feature staged moon sets and props. Quoting: Anonymous Tard 78206897 With "arguments" and "evidence" like these it is no wonder that even other CTers point and laugh at hoaxies. ... Quoting: Florida Stevii 76792171 How did the magic spacesuits work? There were extreme temps in the sun and in the shadows.If they turned too fast they would either roast or freeze. Never could figure that out. So why aren't the suits used for fire rescues? hmmm. That wasnt my quote so Im not sure why you conflating that with me... |
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BeSkeptical User ID: 46420627 United States 11/29/2019 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) The one making the claim bears the burden of providing sufficient evidence. 2) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. 3) NASA's claim that "we went to the Moon and returned safely, six times, without a single fatality" is by far the most extraordinary claim in the history of science. It therefore requires a similarly monumental level of totally irrefutable evidence. 4) The scientist's standard of proof is independent reproducibility. Some independent party, using the same methods and apparatus, must produce the same results. In re the "Moon landings," this means that another entity, not in any way beholden to NASA or the United States, must get to the Moon and back safely using the same rocket, computer, space suits, etc. 5) The historian's standard of proof is independent confirmation. Some honest independent party must irrefutably verify the claim. In re the "Moon landings," this means that another entity, not in any way beholden to NASA or the United States, and of known honesty, must verify that humans reached the Moon, walked around there, and returned safely. 6) The judge's standard of proof is the testimony, under oath and cross-examination, of multiple honest witnesses. In re the "Moon landings," this means that the astronauts, engineers, and NASA executives must all testify under oath to their extraordinary claim, with cross-examination by knowledgeable skeptics. 7) NASA has not met any of these standards of proof--not even the last, which is the simplest: Putting the astronauts, engineers, and executives under oath and submitting them to cross-examination by skeptics. It is now too late, of course--too many of them have died, including Neil Armstrong. Last Edited by BeSkeptical on 11/29/2019 03:24 PM |