Moon Landing hoax? Debunking the Debunkers?

This thread is turning out pretty great!

Ain't that the truth.

Some mighty contributions in this thread.

I guess we're not gonna get all that 'Apollo evidence' in the thread.

Thats kind of a shame!

Even the flat earthers have been demoralized, that their tricks don't work any more.

The big problem with rockets is managing the fuel.

Besides what you said, they are trying to accomplish the mission with the least amount of fuel. So, they have to do dangerous maneuvers that have only one chance to do correctly, etc.

I was really interested in the Astronauts reactions when approached by Bart Sibrel.

esp Buzz Aldrin


"Well your talking to the wrong guy !"

"Why don't you talk to the administrator at NASA. We were just passengers"

"If you show this to anybody publicly you're in for a lawsuit".

What did Buzz mean "We were just passengers" ???



perhaps they did go with technology we don't know about?

But whatever, the reactions of those Astronots sure is odd!

Then there was that part where you can hear Mitchells son say "Do you want me to call the CIA and get him waxxed?"
Pretty crazy stuff from honest men of the 'right stuff'

It is quite possible that the MIC had advanced tech, and that it was used to land on the Moon (among other things).

It would have been a win-win situation for everyone:
The advanced tech would remain hidden, while the Apollo rocket program would create jobs and generate more money to pump into secret programs.

This scenario would explain many things.

and what became of these Astronots after walking on the moon.
Most of them became alcoholic, Buzz a used car salesman, Armstrong became a total recluse, even people in his own town said they never never saw him. Very weird for so called 'Hero's"

Yep, Gus Grissom was first choice, but he was too much of a stand-up guy. Was NOT down with the deception.

SSP does not explain why Gus Grissom had to die.

Okay, there are many things that, on their own prove moon landing false.

oNE THING IS THAT NO MOVIE SHOT ON THE MOON WOULD EVER HAVE WAVERY AIR FROM WARM SAND.

NO MATTER HOW HOT THE SUN MAKES THE MOON SURFACE, THERE'S NO AIR.

tHERE'S "SUPPOSED MOON FOOTAGE" WITH WAVERY AIR, AND YOU CAN SEE IT.

well that is just speculation, just to many maybe's!
We have to stick to evidence, the wildest speculation needs the most proof. But to question the official story we have mountains of it.
i.e.
We have the photographic anomalies, even the interview with the maker of Hasselblad admitting the shots were made with a spotlight, and the film wouldn't work there etc, we have the actions and deaths of the astronauts and the nasa report which was buried and author killed,
just to name a few. The wierdness leading up to the first mission where Gus hung a lemon on the module, asked "how do you expect us to go to the moon when we cant even communicate between us and the module", and even the demonstration of the "scooper" which broke in front of journalists which was only 3 parts!
Then the murder of Gus.. etc.etc.. etc..

I cannot imagine any rational person looking at all of this evidence and still supporting the Nasa story unless they were either a moran or a shill (or both)

Kubrick admits he did it


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Wow

Actual Kubrick movie here




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Wild!

When air is heated up, it acquires heat energy and becomes hot, the cold air rushes to push the hot air up. This is really happening and due to this objects are seen as wavering or haizy. This is otherwise called as mirage, an optical illusion.

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aND IF YOU SAY NO TO THIS ONE, THEN PLEASE TALL ME HOW?

“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.” - Einstein

Jeez.

"Science" is all about FALSIFICATION.

Einstein was correct, if he actually said that. It's pretty much the only thing he was correct about.

One black swan disproves the hypothesis that "All swans are white."

yES THATS RIGHT, eINSTEIN... LIKE YOUR THEORIES UNDER THE SCRUTINY OF MY LENS THEORY WHERE LIGHT DOES SLOW DOWN THRU LENSES, AND LENSES EXTEND AS FAR AS GRAVITY.

MILKY WAY ONLY WAY TO BE THIS SPIRAL IS HAVING PASSED BY ANDROMEDA, THEREFORE LENSES VERY GREAT ENCOMPASS SPACE; EVERYTHING IS LENS OVER LENS, AND eINSTEIN'S BLUSH RED FACE, I CAN FEEL.

Last Edited by Four Minutes to Omegaa on 12/04/2019 07:11 PM

NOT THAT mY eINSTEIN DIDN'T GIVE IT THE OLD COLLEGE-TRY.

bUT YEAH, THE MOON THING: wavery air = earth.

aLL THE "MOON" VIDS HAVE THE WAVERY AIR.

Last Edited by Four Minutes to Omegaa on 12/04/2019 07:07 PM

mOOn... THAT SPELLS lens-theory.

Are you Olaf, using a Canadian proxy?

Nah. I'm YIDNA posing as a SNAKE.

See?
You are physically incapable to post anything that isn't all fallacies.

Such a loser.




Denial ain't just a river...


According to some ignorant snotnose-on-the internet who couldn't even explain the difference between an F-1 and an ulage motor?

You're such a clown.


And every time you ask you expose the fact that you are full of shit.
So I have no incentive to cater to your ignorance.
Your ignorance is my point.


I'm perfectly willing to do so.
It is the hoaxies that keep going of on irrelevant tangents.

It also helps if you know what those words mean if you want to discuss them.


I never said that.
Strawmanning is yet another of your copious fallacies.


Nobody is going to launch a manned moon mission today, so that question is a non-sequitur.
More fallacies.


This is an ASSertion, not a proven fact.
Do you even understand the difference?


All you need to do is ask.
Like a civilised person.


Nope.
Neither was it that popular, after all, most people aren't engineers or scientists or nerds.

Non-sequiturs, trying to shift the burden of proof, arguments from ignorance, prove by assertion, argumentum ad populum, strawmen, disinformation, etc. etc. a nauseam.
All your "arguments" are nothing but logical fallacies, and the only thing they prove is that you fail at elementary logic.




Oh, wonderful.
Yet another argument from ignorance.
It is YOUR job to exclude all other possible explanations before you can claim that there is only one explanation.

Which of course requires you to have an in-depth knowledge of the imaging system and the environment.

*facepalm*

If you think we landed on the moon in 1969 ur crazy as hell

He meant that they went up on Apollo 11, but only into low earth orbit as passengers on a ride around earth in orbit.

Anal Bean

This guy Halcyon just goes round in circles.

You can't pin him down on anything because he DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING.

What Heavy Lifter rocket would they use, Halcyon, if they were to replicate the Apollo missions today? Assuming they had the money, which you say is the problem (and 'lack of political will', whatever that is).

Its seemingly his ministry .. a believer religiously in his opinions and faiths...

Let me give but one example. I said that the Apollo Program was used as a distraction from things like Nixon closing the Gold Window and disclosure of Vietnam War atrocities.

"This is an ASSertion, not a proven fact.
Do you even understand the difference?"

Halcyon Dayz says.

Well... Actually it is a fact that US government held off telling the public about the My Lai massacre, that happened in 1968 (!!!) until after Apollo 11, and just two weeks or so before Apollo 12!

And it is also a FACT that Nixon closed the Gold Window less than two weeks after Apollo 15! Closer to one week, really, if you look at when the mission ended and the craft 'returned from the Moon' was recovered.

Facts. Not assertions.

The 'Great Grain robbery' is also a fact. Did you know that the US transferred billions of dollars, in the form of subsidized grain, to the SOVIET UNION immediately after the conclusion of the Apollo Program!

At any rate, the US and Soviet Union had a joint low orbit space mission immediately after that:
"The Apollo–Soyuz Test Project, conducted in July 1975, was the first joint U.S.–Soviet space flight." - Wikipedia

So the Soviets had no motivation to call "foul". Indeed, they had covered up deaths in their own space program, and probably did not want that revealed either.