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Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture

 
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Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Where in the bible can I find proof of a Rapture? Does the word even exist in the bible? And when was the rapture created?
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Rapture is a "harpozo" in Greek.
The early church believed in the rapture.
Jesus said his return would include an unknowable factor. The scripture gives the very day of the final return after a certain event ( treaty).
The biggest reason I think it's true is it makes the atheist and Deceivers rage.
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apparently, tptb have been propping for it...

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Between the sixth and seventh seals of Revelation an innumerable crowd appears in heaven. This occurs just after the sixth seal "left-behinds" say The day of the Lord has begun.

They appear in heaven before the seventh seal is opened and before the wrath of God is unleashed with the trumpet judgments. This would imply that they have been removed "pre-wrath" and this is the strongest evidence of what you ask.
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Don't believe the "Rapture is a new theory" crap.

On the subject of the Rapture, in Against Heresies 5.29, he wrote:

“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance — in fact, as nothing;”(1) so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, “There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.”(2) For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”

Irenaeus in this passage describes the church leaving the sinful world just before unprecedented disasters. Note his use of the term “caught up” which is Rapture terminology as that is the meaning of harpazo, the term for “caught up” in the King James Bible describing the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4. He then quotes Matthew 24:21 where The Lord Jesus Christ says: “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” And it is during this time that those who convert to Christianity during the final years will receive the incorruptible crown mentioned by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:25. In Irenaeus’ belief, the Rapture took place prior to the end times Great Tribulation.
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Don't believe the "Rapture is a new theory" crap.

On the subject of the Rapture, in Against Heresies 5.29, he wrote:

“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance — in fact, as nothing;”(1) so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, “There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.”(2) For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”

Irenaeus in this passage describes the church leaving the sinful world just before unprecedented disasters. Note his use of the term “caught up” which is Rapture terminology as that is the meaning of harpazo, the term for “caught up” in the King James Bible describing the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4. He then quotes Matthew 24:21 where The Lord Jesus Christ says: “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” And it is during this time that those who convert to Christianity during the final years will receive the incorruptible crown mentioned by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:25. In Irenaeus’ belief, the Rapture took place prior to the end times Great Tribulation.
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The passage you qoute mentions tribulation not rapture. Nowhere in the bible is rapture mentioned.
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Don't believe the "Rapture is a new theory" crap.

On the subject of the Rapture, in Against Heresies 5.29, he wrote:

“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance — in fact, as nothing;”(1) so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, “There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.”(2) For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”

Irenaeus in this passage describes the church leaving the sinful world just before unprecedented disasters. Note his use of the term “caught up” which is Rapture terminology as that is the meaning of harpazo, the term for “caught up” in the King James Bible describing the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4. He then quotes Matthew 24:21 where The Lord Jesus Christ says: “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” And it is during this time that those who convert to Christianity during the final years will receive the incorruptible crown mentioned by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:25. In Irenaeus’ belief, the Rapture took place prior to the end times Great Tribulation.
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The passage you qoute mentions tribulation not rapture. Nowhere in the bible is rapture mentioned.
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I think someone found a verse from an Old testament prophet and somehow tied it in with the end of days.
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [m]shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive [n]and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
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1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [m]shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive [n]and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
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hesright
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1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [m]shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive [n]and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
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Yes and what is this being referenced to.
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture?

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... you will see it when we The Bride are gone ...
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... until then no "proof" will satisfy ...
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Where in the bible can I find proof of a Rapture? Does the word even exist in the bible? And when was the rapture created?
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Rapture is bullshit.

Everyone sticks around... Nobody likes runner....

Trying to flee Judgement Day on Earth? Not!!!!
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [m]shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive [n]and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
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hesright
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Don't believe the "Rapture is a new theory" crap.

On the subject of the Rapture, in Against Heresies 5.29, he wrote:

“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance — in fact, as nothing;”(1) so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, “There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.”(2) For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”

Irenaeus in this passage describes the church leaving the sinful world just before unprecedented disasters. Note his use of the term “caught up” which is Rapture terminology as that is the meaning of harpazo, the term for “caught up” in the King James Bible describing the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4. He then quotes Matthew 24:21 where The Lord Jesus Christ says: “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” And it is during this time that those who convert to Christianity during the final years will receive the incorruptible crown mentioned by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:25. In Irenaeus’ belief, the Rapture took place prior to the end times Great Tribulation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49489131


The passage you qoute mentions tribulation not rapture. Nowhere in the bible is rapture mentioned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27783292


I think someone found a verse from an Old testament prophet and somehow tied it in with the end of days.
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Let me show you your error you two awe inspiring reading comprehension greats.
Irenaeus' whose writings quoted above, was a contemporary of the Apostle John.....
“Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance — in fact, as nothing;”(1) so far useful and serviceable to the just, as stubble conduces towards the growth of the wheat, and its straw, by means of combustion, serves for working gold. And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, “There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.”(2) For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”
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THE LEFT BEHIND DECEPTION

Published on Jan 17, 2015
Where in the bible can I find proof of a Rapture? Does the word even exist in the bible? And when was the rapture created?
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Do you want to know

or do you want not to know?
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Are you open to examining the idea

or do you refuse to consider any possibility of it?
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Re: Where is your proof on the existence of a Rapture
Do you want to know

or do you want not to know?

Are you open to examining the idea

or do you refuse to consider any possibility of it?



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It is, first and foremost,
a question of the heart,
the heart of the matter,
the matter of your heart.





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