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Wurzelzweig  User ID: 77165677  Germany12/01/2018 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 [link to rp-online.de (secure)] |
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| Edgecrusher User ID: 77161580  United States12/01/2018 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 Mikhail D. ‏ @Eire_QC 1h1 hour ago Martial Law prohibits the diffusion of military movements in #Ukraine therefore won't post the Armed Forces movements but I can safely say that #Odessa is being heavily prepared for war. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by Edgecrusher on 12/01/2018 11:52 AM "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets |
| Edgecrusher User ID: 77161580 United States12/01/2018 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ‏ @intellipus 44m44 minutes ago INTELLIPUS Retweeted "Around #Ukraine, in the temporarily occupied territories of #Donbass and #Crimea deployed ground grouping of about 80 thousand Russian troops, about 1400 artillery and missile systems, 900 tanks, 2300 armored vehicles, about 500 airplanes and 300 helicopters." [link to twitter.com (secure)] "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets |
| letitbegin User ID: 77104809  Bulgaria12/01/2018 01:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ... Quoting: Riff-Raff Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either. Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders. We all saw how well THAT played out for them. Pretty much spot on but it wasn't for the destruction of warheads, it was for the return of warheads and delivery systems... Over 1700 warheads I believe it was, and the agreement was to secure Ukraine's security against military and economic treats, internal and external. Ukrainian warheads? Soviet warheads they were! Let call the things with their real names. Before the drunken Yeltsin decided to dissolve USSR, before the putch against Gorbachev, nobody even dreamed of it. Ukraine didnt produce nukes on its own. It was the Soviet science and weapons factories that produced them. Or may be...some modern day Ukrainians want the nukes back...to nuke Russia...They may try...we all know the result of such a try. I Don't think I said Ukrainian warheads, but they were infact Ukranian after the Soviets jumped ship for a short amount of time, they were under Ukrainian control hence why the memorandum was put forward, and the memorandum was for their return and they were of course produced and maintained by the Soviets up until that point in history. At least that's my understanding, if it's different please provide a link for my own education.  I remember the news of that time, how USA urged Ukraine and Kazakhstan to transfer the nukes to Russia. (if you want links, well you may provide links, I don't have them). If USA wanted a nuclear Ukraine, it wouldn't insist on the transfer. The dissolution of USSR came as a big surprise and in a very short time.(I.e. the Soviet leaders didn't have the time to transfer the nukes). Ukraine had no choice but to deliver the nukes to the big brother. So did Kazakhstan. Russia was the official successor of USSR, not Ukraine or Kazakhstan. And better Ukraine never have nuclear weapons, because it will use them. |
| THE GRAND AMERICAN INQUISIDOR User ID: 76826513 United States12/01/2018 02:07 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ... Quoting: Stand Sure Pretty much spot on but it wasn't for the destruction of warheads, it was for the return of warheads and delivery systems... Over 1700 warheads I believe it was, and the agreement was to secure Ukraine's security against military and economic treats, internal and external. Ukrainian warheads? Soviet warheads they were! Let call the things with their real names. Before the drunken Yeltsin decided to dissolve USSR, before the putch against Gorbachev, nobody even dreamed of it. Ukraine didnt produce nukes on its own. It was the Soviet science and weapons factories that produced them. Or may be...some modern day Ukrainians want the nukes back...to nuke Russia...They may try...we all know the result of such a try. I Don't think I said Ukrainian warheads, but they were infact Ukranian after the Soviets jumped ship for a short amount of time, they were under Ukrainian control hence why the memorandum was put forward, and the memorandum was for their return and they were of course produced and maintained by the Soviets up until that point in history. At least that's my understanding, if it's different please provide a link for my own education. I remember the news of that time, how USA urged Ukraine and Kazakhstan to transfer the nukes to Russia. (if you want links, well you may provide links, I don't have them). If USA wanted a nuclear Ukraine, it wouldn't insist on the transfer. The dissolution of USSR came as a big surprise and in a very short time.(I.e. the Soviet leaders didn't have the time to transfer the nukes). Ukraine had no choice but to deliver the nukes to the big brother. So did Kazakhstan. Russia was the official successor of USSR, not Ukraine or Kazakhstan. And better Ukraine never have nuclear weapons, because it will use them. There has always been speculation on the number of Nukes removed..  SCOTLAND FOREVER America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail.. Listed Number 1 in the Guinness World Record Book of EXTRA LARGE Steel Balls Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE. I SIGN MY NEG KARMA |
| Yanez User ID: 76192420  Slovenia12/01/2018 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 Polish state TV on Russian aggression on Ukrainian Navy  [link to gfx.wiadomosci.radiozet.pl (secure)] |
| THE GRAND AMERICAN INQUISIDOR User ID: 76826513 United States12/01/2018 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ... Quoting: letitbegin Ukrainian warheads? Soviet warheads they were! Let call the things with their real names. Before the drunken Yeltsin decided to dissolve USSR, before the putch against Gorbachev, nobody even dreamed of it. Ukraine didnt produce nukes on its own. It was the Soviet science and weapons factories that produced them. Or may be...some modern day Ukrainians want the nukes back...to nuke Russia...They may try...we all know the result of such a try. I Don't think I said Ukrainian warheads, but they were infact Ukranian after the Soviets jumped ship for a short amount of time, they were under Ukrainian control hence why the memorandum was put forward, and the memorandum was for their return and they were of course produced and maintained by the Soviets up until that point in history. At least that's my understanding, if it's different please provide a link for my own education. I remember the news of that time, how USA urged Ukraine and Kazakhstan to transfer the nukes to Russia. (if you want links, well you may provide links, I don't have them). If USA wanted a nuclear Ukraine, it wouldn't insist on the transfer. The dissolution of USSR came as a big surprise and in a very short time.(I.e. the Soviet leaders didn't have the time to transfer the nukes). Ukraine had no choice but to deliver the nukes to the big brother. So did Kazakhstan. Russia was the official successor of USSR, not Ukraine or Kazakhstan. And better Ukraine never have nuclear weapons, because it will use them. There has always been speculation on the number of Nukes removed.. Interesting background on the Removal..The Ukraine was paid well.. Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances.. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Last Edited by THE AMERICAN INQUISITOR on 12/01/2018 02:14 PM SCOTLAND FOREVER America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail.. Listed Number 1 in the Guinness World Record Book of EXTRA LARGE Steel Balls Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE. I SIGN MY NEG KARMA |
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| Colloidal Peanut Butter User ID: 76809044 United States12/01/2018 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ... Quoting: Stand Sure I Don't think I said Ukrainian warheads, but they were infact Ukranian after the Soviets jumped ship for a short amount of time, they were under Ukrainian control hence why the memorandum was put forward, and the memorandum was for their return and they were of course produced and maintained by the Soviets up until that point in history. At least that's my understanding, if it's different please provide a link for my own education. I remember the news of that time, how USA urged Ukraine and Kazakhstan to transfer the nukes to Russia. (if you want links, well you may provide links, I don't have them). If USA wanted a nuclear Ukraine, it wouldn't insist on the transfer. The dissolution of USSR came as a big surprise and in a very short time.(I.e. the Soviet leaders didn't have the time to transfer the nukes). Ukraine had no choice but to deliver the nukes to the big brother. So did Kazakhstan. Russia was the official successor of USSR, not Ukraine or Kazakhstan. And better Ukraine never have nuclear weapons, because it will use them. There has always been speculation on the number of Nukes removed.. Interesting background on the Removal..The Ukraine was paid well.. Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances.. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] the U.S. gave them some operating Capital in exchange for their nukes. |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 77167041 Portugal12/01/2018 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 @Lee_Saks 7 minHá 7 minutos Mais PUTIN SAYS I HOPE MEETING WITH TRUMP WILL TAKE PLACE WHEN U.S. IS READY FOR IT: IFX @Lee_Saks 7 minHá 7 minutos Mais PUTIN SAYS WE HAD 'STAND-UP' MEETING WITH TRUMP, GAVE HIM EXPLANATIONS OVER KERCH INCIDENT: IFX |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 77167041 Portugal12/01/2018 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 @Lee_Saks 12 minHá 12 minutos Mais PUTIN SAYS CONTACTS WITH UKRAINE MAINTAINED AT WORKING LEVEL. SAYS IS HARD TO COMMUNICATE WITH POROSHENKO, BECAUSE IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT TO TALK ABOUT, AGREEMENTS ARE NOT FULFILLED: IFX @Lee_Saks 11 minHá 11 minutos Mais PUTIN SAYS EXCHANGE OF UKRAINIAN SAILORS NO ON AGENDA, IT IS TOO EARLY TO TALKS ABOUT IT, INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWAY: IFX |
| Colloidal Peanut Butter User ID: 76809044 United States12/01/2018 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 @Lee_Saks 12 minHá 12 minutos Mais PUTIN SAYS CONTACTS WITH UKRAINE MAINTAINED AT WORKING LEVEL. SAYS IS HARD TO COMMUNICATE WITH POROSHENKO, BECAUSE IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT TO TALK ABOUT, AGREEMENTS ARE NOT FULFILLED: IFX @Lee_Saks 11 minHá 11 minutos Mais PUTIN SAYS EXCHANGE OF UKRAINIAN SAILORS NO ON AGENDA, IT IS TOO EARLY TO TALKS ABOUT IT, INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWAY: IFX Putin can't trust anybody except his guns. |
| Edgecrusher User ID: 77161580 United States12/01/2018 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets |
| OceanMan User ID: 77162185  Australia12/01/2018 04:39 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] War?  Soaking up the thirst of the land. |
| Stand Sure User ID: 37389687  United Kingdom12/01/2018 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." Publius Flavius Vegetius |
| OceanMan User ID: 77162185 Australia12/01/2018 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. Soaking up the thirst of the land. |
| Pacifica User ID: 77132048  New Zealand12/01/2018 06:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 The US defense secretary, Jim Mattis, has blasted Russia on three fronts: for the “brazen” violation of a treaty with Kiev and the seizure of three Ukrainian vessels, for trying to “muck around” with the US midterm elections, and for violating a nuclear arms treaty. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Pacifica |
| Pacifica User ID: 77132048 New Zealand12/01/2018 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. Here is Putin speaking this, with English interpretation. Video should start playing at the right place if you click this link [link to youtu.be (secure)] Pacifica |
| hillbilly User ID: 75829441 United States12/01/2018 07:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ...for trying to “muck around” with the US midterm elections, and for violating a nuclear arms treaty. Quoting: Pacifica "His remarks were some of the strongest to date by the US. United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley previously accused Russia of “outlaw actions” and an “outrageous violation of sovereign Ukrainian territory”. The article mentions nothing of the Ukrainian bombing attempt on the bridge. This is an important new bridge they are fighting over. Construction of the bridge commenced in May 2015. The road bridge was opened on May 16, '18. The rail portion will open early in '19, kinda big deal;) The '03 agreement he refers to needs to be amended to deal with it.. The Ukrainians will have an election March 31, '19. Porky is still a potential, unpopular candidate for re-election, hence martial law. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Last Edited by hillbilly on 12/01/2018 09:39 PM Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
| OceanMan User ID: 77162185 Australia12/01/2018 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. Here is Putin speaking this, with English interpretation. Video should start playing at the right place if you click this link [link to youtu.be (secure)] Thanks for this. Yeah, he's talking about the war in Donbass, not a direct conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Soaking up the thirst of the land. |
| OceanMan User ID: 77162185 Australia12/01/2018 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 Very early on in this situation, probably 2014 or so, the Saker did a good analysis about how it is in Russia's interest to promote a frozen conflict. Perhaps it serves a useful purpose to other global players too? Soaking up the thirst of the land. |
| Pacifica User ID: 21692586 New Zealand12/01/2018 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 Looks like the #KerchBlockade has finally ended as both Russian and Ukrainian vessels head to their respective ports. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Pacifica |
| OceanMan User ID: 77162185 Australia12/01/2018 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 Looks like the #KerchBlockade has finally ended as both Russian and Ukrainian vessels head to their respective ports. Quoting: Pacifica [link to twitter.com (secure)] Global catastrophe is averted for one more day! Soaking up the thirst of the land. |
| Colloidal Peanut Butter User ID: 76809044 United States12/01/2018 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. it's a mini-war with sugar on top. |
| Stand Sure User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom12/02/2018 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. Precisely  The idea is that Donbass is a dirty war, it's a civil war, it's a clandestine war for the Russians, there are of course advisors and observer's but it's not a war that Russia itself is overtly claiming their actions to... Putin was directly referencing the conflict as between Kiev and Donbass. Last Edited by Stand Sure on 12/02/2018 02:19 AM "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." Publius Flavius Vegetius |
| Colloidal Peanut Butter User ID: 76809044 United States12/02/2018 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 World Events Live Quoting: Edgecrusher ‏ @IdeologyWars 20m20 minutes ago #BREAKING: President #Putin of #Russia has made a statement "The war in #Ukraine will continue as long as the current government is in power". This is the first time Russian leadership publicly states that they are at war with #Ukraine. -Gage [link to twitter.com (secure)] This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. Precisely The idea is that Donbass is a dirty war, it's a civil war, it's a clandestine war for the Russians, there are of course advisors and observer's but it's not a war that Russia itself is overtly claiming their actions to... Putin was directly referencing the conflict as between Kiev and Donbass. Putin got Crimea, but he wants more. what do you call that/ |
| Stand Sure User ID: 37389687 United Kingdom12/02/2018 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: Belarusians, Russians willing to unite - Lukashenko in New Year greetings to Putin -- IFX!!!p597 ... Quoting: Stand Sure This isn't saying the Russians are at war with Ukraine, it's referencing the Donbass situation Ah, so war within Ukraine, civil war. One has to be careful with words, especially when they are translated from a different language. Precisely The idea is that Donbass is a dirty war, it's a civil war, it's a clandestine war for the Russians, there are of course advisors and observer's but it's not a war that Russia itself is overtly claiming their actions to... Putin was directly referencing the conflict as between Kiev and Donbass. Putin got Crimea, but he wants more. what do you call that/ I'll call it when I see it, Crimea was a strategic it was reactionary, he's knows that by not absorbing Donbass he can prevent Ukraine from joining NATO or ascend to the EU not without first letting go off Donbass... That's a very smart move, and it tells you that he know precisely what the US and Co were up to with Maidan, I call that thinking. "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." Publius Flavius Vegetius |