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UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: "Emergency mobilization of reservists" takes place in the occupied Donbas!!!p562

 
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Just a reminder to all my followers after some information was posted on Twitter last night. Do not post or repost any information relating to troop/equipment movements in Ukraine. It is illegal as Ukraine is currently under martial law and your account may be banned
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Just a reminder to all my followers after some information was posted on Twitter last night. Do not post or repost any information relating to troop/equipment movements in Ukraine. It is illegal as Ukraine is currently under martial law and your account may be banned
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Eh, idk, i don't think the Ukrainian government has much of a stranglehold over what people do and say over twitter.
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The US Army is gearing up for a potential fight with Russia, and it just put a crucial defensive weapon back in Europe permanently


"The battalion has a long history, serving in artillery and antiaircraft artillery roles in the War of 1812, the Civil War, World War II, and the Vietnam War."

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sounds stupid. or ignorant
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Understanding that this is a news thread, so not wishing to cause a major derailment, but to those here more knowledgable than me in military affairs, particularly in regard to this recent escalation between Russia and Ukraine. Where do you think things might go from here? Things seem to have quietened down a little, and I heard that the Kirch Strait has reopened, so . . . what do you think might happen from this point?

Hope OP Luis, won't mind me asking. Thanks hf
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Understanding that this is a news thread, so not wishing to cause a major derailment, but to those here more knowledgable than me in military affairs, particularly in regard to this recent escalation between Russia and Ukraine. Where do you think things might go from here? Things seem to have quietened down a little, and I heard that the Kirch Strait has reopened, so . . . what do you think might happen from this point?

Hope OP Luis, won't mind me asking. Thanks hf
 Quoting: Pacifica


I reckon it will settle down again. At this point, is it possible for a war to occur between major world powers without somebody using nuclear weapons? It seems unlikely to me.

I've always believed that either we'll end up have a little accident with our nuclear toys, or the cosmos will send some fun our way. Nothing lasts forever.
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Understanding that this is a news thread, so not wishing to cause a major derailment, but to those here more knowledgable than me in military affairs, particularly in regard to this recent escalation between Russia and Ukraine. Where do you think things might go from here? Things seem to have quietened down a little, and I heard that the Kirch Strait has reopened, so . . . what do you think might happen from this point?

Hope OP Luis, won't mind me asking. Thanks hf
 Quoting: Pacifica


To be honest it's entirely unpredictable but it's an obvious situation for the players involved, Russia knows what Poroshenko is after, it's highly unlikely that Russia will give them it, the build up on Ukrianes border is most likely to intimidate Kiev into not acting out of place, equally Kiev believes that Crimea is still in Ukraine so the waters they were in mean they weren't in the wrong...

This is backed by the western stance, however the West is reluctant to get bogged down in that quagmire, but will happily play big bank take little bank...

Putin strategy as it appears to myself is to not accept Donbass into Russia the same for Abhazia and South Osetia, as it prevents NATO from absorbing Ukraine and Georgia, which would be a massive threat to Russia, but rather than bankrupt themselves in a high intensity conflict they play the board smart...

It's unlikely this will actually escalate however it's all on what Poroshenko does next and what comes of G20.
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Thanks for your views, have read . . and will sleep on it!

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Washington Examiner: Estonia fears Russia wants another piece of Ukraine

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“Mad Dog” Calls Putin a Fucking Idiot.


Mattis “Putin a slow learner”. Hilarious bwhaaaaaaaaaa

Made my day.
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Just a reminder to all my followers after some information was posted on Twitter last night. Do not post or repost any information relating to troop/equipment movements in Ukraine. It is illegal as Ukraine is currently under martial law and your account may be banned
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 Quoting: Pacifica


It is illegal FOR UKRAINIANS INSIDE UKRAINE.

Ukraine law does not apply outside its borders or to citizens of other nations who have no ongoing contractual relationship with Ukraine.
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DPR crawling with Russian Troops and Tanks, yet Putler playing the victim. Really is astonishing stuff.

Putler and his rogue military have illegally detained 3 Ukrainian Ships in international waters. Detaining 23 Ukrainian sailors. Some think this cool.

When does the international community say enough is enough, Is it when Russian Tank Turrets are pointing across the British channel ?.

Putler talks of wanting to normalise relations with United States. Yet he is becoming increasingly belligerent in the face of US demands. US demanded the immediate release of the Ukraine Ships and Sailors, yet Putler will not do it. Why not symbolically subjugate to US authority, show you respect United States, that you will start respecting US authority .Putler could not do it, Playing the victim is becoming tiresome. So many gullible people falling for this.

Mattis is right Putin is a slow learner, basically a fucking idiot. Even a 5 year old knows for every action there is a consequence.

US should demand that NATO Turkey shut the Bospurus Strait to all Russian Naval vessels. Only let through commercial shipping. If Turkey refuse US should impose crippling sanctions, boot them out of NATO.

Also order the closure of all Western Ports to Russian Shipping until Russia starts complying with US demands.

Short of all out war it is the best option to bring the “Slow learners” to their knees.
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US should demand that NATO Turkey shut the Bospurus Strait to all Russian Naval vessels.
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks

Under the 1936 Montreux Convention (actually a ratified treaty binding on all signatories), Turkey should have closed the Bosporus Straits in 2014 when Russia invaded, occupied, and annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula (a brazen violation of a ratified treaty and clearly an act of war). Turkey must be persuaded to do so now--better late than never.

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Turkey was authorised to close the Straits to all foreign warships in wartime or when it was threatened by aggression.
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Neither Russia or Turkey are in a state of war. Nor is Turkey threatened by Russia. There is no reason for Turkey to do anything. What you are suggesting is a direct violation of said Treaty.

On the other hand, Ukraine certainly thinks they are "at war" with Russia. Hence entering Russian territorial waters( they are Russian territorial waters regardless of Crimea btw) with unauthorized warships is not an "innocent passage". You can take the above quote and apply it to the Kerch strait. Russia acts in the exact way you are suggesting Turkey should have acted.

Innocent passage is a concept in the law of the sea that allows for a vessel to pass through the territorial waters of another state, subject to certain restrictions. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea Article 19 defines innocent passage as:

1. Passage is innocent so long as it is not prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State.

...

(a) any threat or use of force against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of the coastal State fail
(c) any act aimed at collecting information to the prejudice of the defence or security of the coastal State; fail
(d) any act of propaganda aimed at affecting the defence or security of the coastal State; fail
(k) any act aimed at interfering with any systems of communication or any other facilities or installations of the coastal State; fail
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You can argue the status of Crimea, but you can't argue, given current borders, that Ukraine has any leg to stand on here.
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BREAKING: Off this subject, but did you guys see this post?
US Troops attacked The Syrian Army at Al Tanaf just a little while ago? Using HIMARS.

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Ok, I am back WTF!
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The US Army is gearing up for a potential fight with Russia, and it just put a crucial defensive weapon back in Europe permanently


"The battalion has a long history, serving in artillery and antiaircraft artillery roles in the War of 1812, the Civil War, World War II, and the Vietnam War."

[link to www.businessinsider.com.au (secure)]


sounds stupid. or ignorant
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they bringing back the Napoleon 12 Pounder Cannon.
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DPR crawling with Russian Troops and Tanks, yet Putler playing the victim. Really is astonishing stuff.

Putler and his rogue military have illegally detained 3 Ukrainian Ships in international waters. Detaining 23 Ukrainian sailors. Some think this cool.

When does the international community say enough is enough, Is it when Russian Tank Turrets are pointing across the British channel ?.

Putler talks of wanting to normalise relations with United States. Yet he is becoming increasingly belligerent in the face of US demands. US demanded the immediate release of the Ukraine Ships and Sailors, yet Putler will not do it. Why not symbolically subjugate to US authority, show you respect United States, that you will start respecting US authority .Putler could not do it, Playing the victim is becoming tiresome. So many gullible people falling for this.

Mattis is right Putin is a slow learner, basically a fucking idiot. Even a 5 year old knows for every action there is a consequence.

US should demand that NATO Turkey shut the Bospurus Strait to all Russian Naval vessels. Only let through commercial shipping. If Turkey refuse US should impose crippling sanctions, boot them out of NATO.

Also order the closure of all Western Ports to Russian Shipping until Russia starts complying with US demands.

Short of all out war it is the best option to bring the “Slow learners” to their knees.
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What I'm looking forward to is the sudden flash of blinding white light enveloping Denison Barracks, Hermitage, Thatcham So none of us has to read your tripe anymore.
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US should demand that NATO Turkey shut the Bospurus Strait to all Russian Naval vessels.
 Quoting: Dogsbollocks

Under the 1936 Montreux Convention (actually a ratified treaty binding on all signatories), Turkey should have closed the Bosporus Straits in 2014 when Russia invaded, occupied, and annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula (a brazen violation of a ratified treaty and clearly an act of war). Turkey must be persuaded to do so now--better late than never.

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 Quoting: BeSkeptical


Interesting you completely ignore the actual VOTE by citizens of Crimea to join Russia. Sort of takes the wind out of your sails about "invaded, occupied and annexed . . ."

Darn those pesky citizens, they actually VOTED to leave Ukraine and join Russia. Now guys like YOU want to void their democratic vote and force them back to the regime in Kiev from which they fled.

Tyrannical much?
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#BREAKING: If No diplomatic solution will be found for the #Ukraine-#Russia political dispute after #KerchStrait incident, #Donbass war will restart in full scale. Pro-#Russian separatists have prepared themselves for this war based on the intelligence gathered by #Ukraine Army
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Ukrainian Armed Forces report total ceasefire for the entirety of December 2nd in Donbas. #Ukraine
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#UPDATE: The press service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense stated that starting Monday, December 3rd, large-scale call-up of reservists and those liable for military duty will begin
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Ukrainian Armed Forces report total ceasefire for the entirety of December 2nd in Donbas. #Ukraine

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That's completely random and very interesting
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#UPDATE: The press service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense stated that starting Monday, December 3rd, large-scale call-up of reservists and those liable for military duty will begin
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They're gearing up for an operation it seems
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They're gearing up for an operation it seems
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Kiev and the Donbass Rebels are at a stalemate.
somethings got to give.
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They're gearing up for an operation it seems
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Kiev and the Donbass Rebels are at a stalemate.
somethings got to give.
 Quoting: Colloidal Peanut Butter


Seems like a set up, sayyih there's a ceasefire and will then claim a breach on Donbass part, remember the reports of Rebels loading munitions I can smell a German Poland radio station type event...

Poroshenko needs an esculation if he truly done this for postponing of elections sake, we will likely see right wing militias on the streets again soon...

Could be wrong but something doesn't smell good here.
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#BREAKING: First new images via @ImageSatIntl showing Russian forces have deployed more S-400 air defence systems, this time to the Dzhankoy Airbase in northern Crimea as reported previously after the attack on the Ukrainian Navy near the Kerch Strait
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Possibility that Russia put an extra ASAT up with the 3 Rodnik mil comms satellites on Friday.
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Ukrainian Armed Forces report total ceasefire for the entirety of December 2nd in Donbas. #Ukraine

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That's completely random and very interesting
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Rearm and restock..
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Possibility that Russia put an extra ASAT up with the 3 Rodnik mil comms satellites on Friday.

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HMMMM..
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