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UKRAINE/RUSSIA: BREAKING: "Emergency mobilization of reservists" takes place in the occupied Donbas!!!p562

 
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#UPDATE: Turns out these Russian Black Sea naval exercises were only just announced and the area they are exercising in will be closed off and declared a danger zone until the exercise finishes on Dec 9th. The naval exercises began just under two hours ago


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US, NATO Coordinating Alliance-Wide Response to Kerch Incident - State Dept


"We’ve coordinated very closely over the last several days with European allies, both in the NATO format and in the EU format, and right now we’re focused on sizing an allied alliance-wide response, having the right size response to what happened at the Kerch," the State Department official said on Monday.

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I'm not sure how legitimate that argument is, but even if you are correct, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum certainly still applies. And the only country to keep their word from that little agreement was Ukraine.
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The same logic applies. Crimea revolted. Russia picked up the pieces. That memorandum states "respect independence, sovereignty and the existing borders" and that's what everyone involved is still doing. And that's a good thing otherwise we would be at war already.
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I'm not sure how legitimate that argument is, but even if you are correct, the 1994 Budapest Memorandum certainly still applies.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff

Yes, but his argument is nonsensical anyway.

- The most vocal inhabitants of Crimea are old Communist apparatchiks who stole the land from Crimean Tatars who were murdered/exiled by Stalin.

- Putin invaded Crimea with his "little green men" in brazen violation of the treaty, the memorandum, and international law--while publicly denying it.

- Putin's "little green men" then staged a referendum, terrorizing anyone who disagreed.

- Putin then "annexed" the region, again in brazen violation of the treaty, the memorandum, and international law. This is the single most important point: The treaty was between two nations, Russia and Ukraine. The opinion of some Communist apparatchiks on the Crimean Peninsula is not relevant.

Please remember that Stalin acted similarly toward the Baltic republics. But eventually, through a miracle of the Virgin Mary, the evil Soviet Empire collapsed, and the Baltic republics were free.

Another miracle will eventually bring this latest Russian Empire crashing down. "In the end, Russia will be converted, and a time of peace will be granted to the world."

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#UPDATE: Turns out these Russian Black Sea naval exercises were only just announced and the area they are exercising in will be closed off and declared a danger zone until the exercise finishes on Dec 9th. The naval exercises began just under two hours ago


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I'm sure I've seen the exercises mentioned a couple days ago, think it was on this thread.
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US, NATO Coordinating Alliance-Wide Response to Kerch Incident - State Dept


"We’ve coordinated very closely over the last several days with European allies, both in the NATO format and in the EU format, and right now we’re focused on sizing an allied alliance-wide response, having the right size response to what happened at the Kerch," the State Department official said on Monday.

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It's not looking good for Putin. He seriously fucked up. The fact that Trump canceled the meeting with him is very telling.
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US, NATO Coordinating Alliance-Wide Response to Kerch Incident - State Dept


"We’ve coordinated very closely over the last several days with European allies, both in the NATO format and in the EU format, and right now we’re focused on sizing an allied alliance-wide response, having the right size response to what happened at the Kerch," the State Department official said on Monday.

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It's not looking good for Putin. He seriously fucked up. The fact that Trump canceled the meeting with him is very telling.
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Not really, to be honest it's a symbolic stance Trump basically said he's not impressed with either side, he also got on quite well with Putin...

My guess is that they have met or consulted in some form.
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US, NATO Coordinating Alliance-Wide Response to Kerch Incident - State Dept


"We’ve coordinated very closely over the last several days with European allies, both in the NATO format and in the EU format, and right now we’re focused on sizing an allied alliance-wide response, having the right size response to what happened at the Kerch," the State Department official said on Monday.

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 Quoting: Pacifica


It's not looking good for Putin. He seriously fucked up. The fact that Trump canceled the meeting with him is very telling.
 Quoting: Fight The Power


Are you serious? NATO got no say in this in first place they just bitching back like bully in school yard. What the fuck they gona do in Ukraine huh?
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Dear God...We will be at war with Russia soon.
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Dear God...We will be at war with Russia soon.
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THIS IS VERY VERY WORRISOME!
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Would be interesting to see what is the framework for this
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Dear God...We will be at war with Russia soon.
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THIS IS VERY VERY WORRISOME!
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Ukraine can't join NATO without first relinquishing it's claim to Crimea and Donbass, due to being a nation at war, Putin knows this hence why Donbass isn't Russian and why Abkhazia and S.Osettia aren't Russian.

As per my reply to the tweet
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Dear God...We will be at war with Russia soon.
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Don't believe it until NATO goes public with it.
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Dear God...We will be at war with Russia soon.
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Don't believe it until NATO goes public with it.
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Either way, we're screwed bro! Check this out from 29 min ago from NATO

NATO Foreign Ministers show strong support for Georgia and Ukraine

NATO Foreign Ministers met with the Foreign Ministers of Georgia and Ukraine on Tuesday (4 December 2018) to address the security situation in the Black Sea region and the Alliance’s support for both nations. NATO has substantially increased its presence in the Black Sea region over the past few years, at sea, in the air and on the ground. The Alliance remains committed to strengthening its ties with both Georgia and Ukraine.


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So NATO is going to jump in now no matter what. People have said here, "No way NATO will get involved" They were wrong! We're in big trouble!

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NATO won't do anything major. This is all just talk. Plus Ukraine and Georgia can't join NATO since they have disputed territory. NATO will not defend Ukraine or Georgia militarily.

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NATO won't do anything major. This is all just talk. Plus Ukraine and Georgia can't join NATO since they have disputed territory. NATO will not defend Ukraine or Georgia militarily.
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Exactly, they can't as an organisation do so, unless those actions relinquish their contested territory...

Plus joining could take decades, on 2008 Ukraine's application was Veto by Germany post Georgia war, so the organisation would need some revamping and the framework for joining would be immense.
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NATO won't do anything major. This is all just talk. Plus Ukraine and Georgia can't join NATO since they have disputed territory. NATO will not defend Ukraine or Georgia militarily.
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Exactly, they can't as an organisation do so, unless those actions relinquish their contested territory...

Plus joining could take decades, on 2008 Ukraine's application was Veto by Germany post Georgia war, so the organisation would need some revamping and the framework for joining would be immense.
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Yup nothing is going to happen involving NATO and Russia knows this.
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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 Quoting: Edgecrusher


Dear God...We will be at war with Russia soon.
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Don't believe it until NATO goes public with it.
 Quoting: Badnickname


Either way, we're screwed bro! Check this out from 29 min ago from NATO

NATO Foreign Ministers show strong support for Georgia and Ukraine

NATO Foreign Ministers met with the Foreign Ministers of Georgia and Ukraine on Tuesday (4 December 2018) to address the security situation in the Black Sea region and the Alliance’s support for both nations. NATO has substantially increased its presence in the Black Sea region over the past few years, at sea, in the air and on the ground. The Alliance remains committed to strengthening its ties with both Georgia and Ukraine.


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So NATO is going to jump in now no matter what. People have said here, "No way NATO will get involved" They were wrong! We're in big trouble!
 Quoting: Kingzzor


It's more politically charged, it's to show the United front against what is perceived as Russian aggression globally.
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NATO won't do anything major. This is all just talk. Plus Ukraine and Georgia can't join NATO since they have disputed territory. NATO will not defend Ukraine or Georgia militarily.
 Quoting: Taskforce88


Exactly, they can't as an organisation do so, unless those actions relinquish their contested territory...

Plus joining could take decades, on 2008 Ukraine's application was Veto by Germany post Georgia war, so the organisation would need some revamping and the framework for joining would be immense.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Yup nothing is going to happen involving NATO and Russia knows this.
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FUKUS however that's possible, but NATO as an organisation... there's no taste for it it would require something drastic for that to happen, IE the invasion of Ukraine would strengthen NATO's resolve as an organisation to act together, the Polish border would become the neo West/Berlin.
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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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Interesting development...
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I tell my Ukrainian fellow...stop being stupid ...they need to stop badmouth Putun.
Man deserves at least statue in his name on maydan square.
In only 4 years what was weak satelite in shadow of russia...became country that stoping presidents of other countries from shaking hands with each other...soon NATO membership and historical center of Slavic Orthodox Church.

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[email protected] talking to media after @NATO meeting with Ukraine and Georgia: we got important message from partners - Ukraine will be member of NATO. #WeAreNATO

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 Quoting: Edgecrusher


Interesting development...
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Its nothing new, I'd wait until we see a formal MAP (Membership Action Plan) formulated by NATO
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Meaning the deal hasn't gone through?
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Meaning the deal hasn't gone through?
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It seams so...
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OT: U.K. GOVERNMENT LOSES VOTE ON AMENDMENT ON BREXIT LEGAL ADVICE
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Meaning the deal hasn't gone through?
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It seams so...
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Should be a testing week ahead then.
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200 dock workers got layed off in Mariupol dock after the incident. Apparently it stopped grain exports which is the only thing they move these days through Mariupol since Donbass steel is not available anymore.