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BREAKING: Tsunami Warning for coastal areas of Cook Inlet and southern Kenai Peninsula in Alaska after powerful prelim. magnitude 7.2 earthquake hits near Anchorage.

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BREAKING: Tsunami Warning for coastal areas of Cook Inlet and southern Kenai Peninsula in Alaska after powerful prelim. magnitude 7.2 earthquake hits near Anchorage.

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Another morning in #Ukraine dawns with #Russia in complete control of the #KerchStrait. Strategic coastal cities like #Mariupol and #Berdiansk have not seen vessels arrive at port in nearly a week now. USE-FULL-LINK-A8KahwWmWH
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soon Putin's tanks will be rolling in to take control
of Mariupol and Berdyansk.
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Yep and as I mentioned in an earlier post 'no one wants a war with Russia, it would be so terrible' so Russia could just roll in there unopposed cause of how dreadful war is.
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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.

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#UPDATE: Starting December 1st, Troops of #Russia will begin readiness checks and snap drills along the border with #Ukraine. The G20 summit also ends the same day. -Gage

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Russia amassing Troops and Tanks on its Western borders.Apparently for snap checks.

US/NATO troops are now starting to gather in Countries near Russia border.

The art of self defence is to attack.Strike first,hard and fast,and dont fucking stop until we a rolling through Red Square.

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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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There's all sorts of irregularities in your post. First of all I was talking about Russian/Ukrainian border, western UA was not in question when I was replying. Western UA and people there got little to do with the current crisis.

Second, victims of holodomor were all sorts of nationalities not just Ukrainians, like some would like to advertise. Holodomor was atrocity aimed at people exclusively and Russians were dying in same amount as Ukrainians did. So, Holodomor wasn't aimed at Ukrainians and it didn't question what nationality you were.

Again, all this comparisons with USSR that is long time gone, to me is childish and naive and completely out of context of zeitgeist.
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US aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) have flown daily surveillance missions around the Crimean peninsula since the incident on 25 November in the contested Kerch Strait involving Russian and Ukrainian naval forces.

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European defence and military officials say there is no prospect of direct military action to confront Russia’s attack on Ukrainian naval vessels near the Sea of Azov, despite an appeal by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko for the allies to send ships there. However, other military options and policy decisions could be on the table, they said.

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Fuck Ukraine seriously its a NON COUNTRY!
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#UPDATE: Starting December 1st, Troops of #Russia will begin readiness checks and snap drills along the border with #Ukraine. The G20 summit also ends the same day. -Gage

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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either.

Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders.

We all saw how well THAT played out for them.
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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either.

Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders.

We all saw how well THAT played out for them.
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Pretty much spot on but it wasn't for the destruction of warheads, it was for the return of warheads and delivery systems...

Over 1700 warheads I believe it was, and the agreement was to secure Ukraine's security against military and economic treats, internal and external.

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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either.

Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders.

We all saw how well THAT played out for them.
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Yup. They made a huge mistake giving up their nukes. Russia would have never gone into Crimea if they still had them.
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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either.

Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders.

We all saw how well THAT played out for them.
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Well, the ones who promised them protection are the ones who cooked and manifested crisis Ukrainians are caught in today.
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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either.

Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders.

We all saw how well THAT played out for them.
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Yup. They made a huge mistake giving up their nukes. Russia would have never gone into Crimea if they still had them.
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Quite the opposite the fact that Crimea was a strategic action means Russia would have done the same, but all out war would have likely to occurred, it wouldn't have just been Crimea getting seized and we probably would have seen proliferation.
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You know there was a military coup that overthrown legitimately elected government. They didn't got rid of dictator in Maidan but legit president who done nothing wrong except fraternize with Russians.
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Seems that there was a collision between two cargo ships in the Kerch strait today
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Russia amassing Troops and Tanks on its Western borders.Apparently for snap checks.

US/NATO troops are now starting to gather in Countries near Russia border.

The art of self defence is to attack.Strike first,hard and fast,and dont fucking stop until we a rolling through Red Square.

Then reduce the shit hole to Rubble.
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Seems that there was a collision between two cargo ships in the Kerch strait today
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A little more detail about that for those interested . .

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There was no occupation, at least not in UA. Hungary, Poland maybe but not in UA, no need for tanks there while USSR was alive.
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False. Before World War II, western Ukraine was part of the Polish Republic. Most western Ukrainians actually wanted independence even then, unrealistic though that aspiration was at the time. (Stalin next door was busy murdering and starving the eastern Ukrainians.)

After World War II, the Soviet Union stole western Ukraine from Poland. Western Ukrainians never wanted to be part of the Russian Empire, and certainly never wanted to be Communist. However, western Ukrainians knew that geographically, Ukraine could never be free unless Poland was freed first.
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Ukraine was partitioned between Poland and Russia at the end of World War I before the Soviet Union even existed. However, you are correct that they did not want to be under Soviet rule and they briefly looked upon Nazi Germany as liberators when they invaded the Soviet Union. Of course, that didn't work out so well for them either.

Ukraine declared its independence after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, becoming the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world, until 1994 when the US, Britain, and Russia talked them into destroying their nuclear weapons in exchange for guarantees of observing their sovereign borders.

We all saw how well THAT played out for them.
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Yup. They made a huge mistake giving up their nukes. Russia would have never gone into Crimea if they still had them.
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Either that or Kiev could have made Chernobyl only look slightly radioactive right now.
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The US Army is gearing up for a potential fight with Russia, and it just put a crucial defensive weapon back in Europe permanently

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The US Army is gearing up for a potential fight with Russia, and it just put a crucial defensive weapon back in Europe permanently

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