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PUTIN: West Is Deliberately Fostering Fears Of "Russian Aggression" Only In A Madman's Dream Would Russia Suddenly Attack NATO

 
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russia still isn't helping rebels in what used to be ukraine as much as the US aids israel to slaughter children.
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We had a genocide in America too. WTF do you think the draft was? Why do you think there was a physical?

We need another one.
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We had a genocide in America too. WTF do you think the draft was? Why do you think there was a physical?

We need another one.
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Strong talk from someone from Thailand.
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We had a genocide in America too. WTF do you think the draft was? Why do you think there was a physical?

We need another one.
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Strong talk from someone from Thailand.
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I'm American.
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Russia and the West will join forces at some point and eliminate an enemy that poses a threat to both Russia and the West.

All things aside, we do strive for similar values; prosperity, functioning economies, technological advancement etc.

The global Islamic Jihad movement threatens all of that. They are in essence a nihilistic movement and will eventually provoke the West and Russians to the point where total annihilation will be inevitable.

Don't think for a second that Russia is somehow "friends" with Iran or Syria.
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I really do hope this is the case. What you say is true, we all have similar interests. But NATO threats to fire nukes into Russia to take out cruise missiles they think violate the INF treaty doesn't help things.
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They will eventually come to their senses. To put things in context, these situations have been ongoing since world war 2. We might witness the odd spike in tension but basically, things are "business as usual". Russia is not a threat to the West. Putin clearly states this and I believe it to be the truth.

The West are not really the bad guys, either. They just want to maintain their dominance. Not much has changed there, either.

As I said earlier, Russia is not our enemy, Islam is. Their nihilistic world view will eventually be their downfall.

What do you think would happen if IS took complete control of Syria for example? Do you think Russia would idly stand by and let a bunch of fucking psychopaths take their navy bases? Do you think the U.S and NATO would ever allow IS to take complete control of Iraq, with the Trillions of dollars of oil involved?

The answer, of course is no. However, this is exactly what the Jihadis are striving for. And they will not stop. Eventually, it will come to a point where a massive, world war 2, scenario will begin to unfold.

Russia and NATO will join forces and destroy the Jihad movement. This is your ww3 scenario, not Russia vs. The West.

So many will die in this war, that it will change everything.
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Russia and the West will join forces at some point and eliminate an enemy that poses a threat to both Russia and the West.

All things aside, we do strive for similar values; prosperity, functioning economies, technological advancement etc.

The global Islamic Jihad movement threatens all of that. They are in essence a nihilistic movement and will eventually provoke the West and Russians to the point where total annihilation will be inevitable.

Don't think for a second that Russia is somehow "friends" with Iran or Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69240826


I really do hope this is the case. What you say is true, we all have similar interests. But NATO threats to fire nukes into Russia to take out cruise missiles they think violate the INF treaty doesn't help things.
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They will eventually come to their senses. To put things in context, these situations have been ongoing since world war 2. We might witness the odd spike in tension but basically, things are "business as usual". Russia is not a threat to the West. Putin clearly states this and I believe it to be the truth.

The West are not really the bad guys, either. They just want to maintain their dominance. Not much has changed there, either.

As I said earlier, Russia is not our enemy, Islam is. Their nihilistic world view will eventually be their downfall.

What do you think would happen if IS took complete control of Syria for example? Do you think Russia would idly stand by and let a bunch of fucking psychopaths take their navy bases? Do you think the U.S and NATO would ever allow IS to take complete control of Iraq, with the Trillions of dollars of oil involved?

The answer, of course is no. However, this is exactly what the Jihadis are striving for. And they will not stop. Eventually, it will come to a point where a massive, world war 2, scenario will begin to unfold.

Russia and NATO will join forces and destroy the Jihad movement. This is your ww3 scenario, not Russia vs. The West.

So many will die in this war, that it will change everything.
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Sorry, and I'm not a doomer, just a realist - but this is really a best case scenario and not very probable. Putin has his issues with IS, but there is an obvious aggression on two fronts that cannot be denied. Kiev is 300 miles from Moscow, and they are pleading for NATO membership. That's just not going to fly. That's like Russia taking over North Carolina and building bases in Raleigh. And we have China drawing their red line in the south china sea. Its obvious that there is instigation here, and its definitely not Russia doing it. China seems to be taking advantage of their strength in the pacific.
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Russia and the West will join forces at some point and eliminate an enemy that poses a threat to both Russia and the West.

All things aside, we do strive for similar values; prosperity, functioning economies, technological advancement etc.

The global Islamic Jihad movement threatens all of that. They are in essence a nihilistic movement and will eventually provoke the West and Russians to the point where total annihilation will be inevitable.

Don't think for a second that Russia is somehow "friends" with Iran or Syria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69240826


I really do hope this is the case. What you say is true, we all have similar interests. But NATO threats to fire nukes into Russia to take out cruise missiles they think violate the INF treaty doesn't help things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69398397


They will eventually come to their senses. To put things in context, these situations have been ongoing since world war 2. We might witness the odd spike in tension but basically, things are "business as usual". Russia is not a threat to the West. Putin clearly states this and I believe it to be the truth.

The West are not really the bad guys, either. They just want to maintain their dominance. Not much has changed there, either.

As I said earlier, Russia is not our enemy, Islam is. Their nihilistic world view will eventually be their downfall.

What do you think would happen if IS took complete control of Syria for example? Do you think Russia would idly stand by and let a bunch of fucking psychopaths take their navy bases? Do you think the U.S and NATO would ever allow IS to take complete control of Iraq, with the Trillions of dollars of oil involved?

The answer, of course is no. However, this is exactly what the Jihadis are striving for. And they will not stop. Eventually, it will come to a point where a massive, world war 2, scenario will begin to unfold.

Russia and NATO will join forces and destroy the Jihad movement. This is your ww3 scenario, not Russia vs. The West.

So many will die in this war, that it will change everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69240826


Sorry, and I'm not a doomer, just a realist - but this is really a best case scenario and not very probable. Putin has his issues with IS, but there is an obvious aggression on two fronts that cannot be denied. Kiev is 300 miles from Moscow, and they are pleading for NATO membership. That's just not going to fly. That's like Russia taking over North Carolina and building bases in Raleigh. And we have China drawing their red line in the south china sea. Its obvious that there is instigation here, and its definitely not Russia doing it. China seems to be taking advantage of their strength in the pacific.
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To sum up what I think in two sentences - Someone want's war between the east and the west. I do not believe it is China or Russia.
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They are doing the same thing fomenting trouble for China.

They bribed and coerced Asean, Japanese and South Asian governments to come up with CGI videos and images with fake Chinese military activities using illegal fishing vessels caught on satellite surveilance imagery.

Now we have all the insinuations and innuendos leveled at the Chinese through the computer hacking revelations. All disinfo in a concerted and deliberate attempt to demonise a whole nation.

As people in the Orient say, a typical abrahamic trickery to win at all costs by pre-emptive demonising of others to gain the upper hand, to be seen on high moral ground. The real demons crying wolf. angryface
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Probably true about Russia, but what about their buddy, China?
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China is years away from being able to beat the usa and then when years happen, they are years away from beating the usa in a war
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Probably true about Russia, but what about their buddy, China?
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China is years away from being able to beat the usa and then when years happen, they are years away from beating the usa in a war
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Its actually the other way around. Russia cannot beat the west in a conventional war. They would lose, hands down. So they will use nukes instead. China on the other hand has a MASSIVE upper hand in the pacific. They could lose, but not without inflicting HORRIFIC damage on the west. It is quite possible that they might win. Could they invade the US? I used to think hell no, but now it is debatable. The western states have all passed really severe gun control laws. However, i really pitty the chinese if they ever try to invade Arizona.
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Vlad's the man!

Most White Americans are like, Putin, he's a good guy. Most American white males are like, GO VLAD! Bear hunting, horseback riding, shirtless dude who got himself a new wench and bingo-prego... WAY TO GO. And they're trying to breed a lot more WHITE PEOPLE over there and Vlad's a Christian on top of it all.

Me and the wife, we might move to Russia and call it good given how Harry Bounelle has fucked over America.
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propoganda
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You like the Federal Reserve's fuckabilly and Crazy Barry's Make-any-law-you-wanna-without-Congress America?

You're fucked, Bozo
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Narrow minded idiocy.

Doofus sorosbot says Russia specializes in propaganda
Thanks for the karma btw...shows the immaturity and lack of comprehension of some readers. And sorry i don't take people for face value...unlike yourself who rides in on Obama/Putin's shining rainbow of bullshit.

German proxy tard your post literally reeks of brainwashed propaganda. FFS...i'm not one to take sides but your post is complete and utter fucking insanity.

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"Russia is not building up its offensive military capabilities overseas and is only responding to security threats caused by US and NATO military expansion on its borders, Russian President Vladimir Putin told Italian outlet Il Corriere della Sera.

Speaking to the paper on the eve of his visit to Italy, Putin stressed that one should not take the ongoing “Russian aggression” scaremongering in the West seriously, as a global military conflict is unimaginable in the modern world.

“I think that only an insane person and only in a dream can imagine that Russia would suddenly attack NATO. I think some countries are simply taking advantage of people’s fears with regard to Russia. They just want to play the role of front-line countries that should receive some supplementary military, economic, financial or some other aid,” Putin said.

Certain countries could be deliberately nurturing such fears, he added, saying that hypothetically the US could need an external threat to maintain its leadership in the Atlantic community. “Iran is clearly not very scary or big enough” for this, Putin noted with irony.

Russia’s military policy is “not global, offensive or aggressive,” Putin stressed, adding that Russia “virtually [has] no bases abroad” – only few remnants of Soviet past.

The military spending of the NATO countries combined is 10 times higher than that of the Russian Federation, Putin stressed."

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Putin was one of the world's premier intelligence analysts before he became Boss. As such he is familiar with the nature of the info war. And he understands that certain neoconservative warmongering psychopaths have tried to bait Russia into a hot war with the West over Kiev's ongoing genocidal war against the Donbass. But, as his comments here demonstrate, he understands that if Russia were to take that bait the results would be disastrous for the World.
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I love those nuke Bear bombers flying in civilian airspace with no transponders. It's very exciting. Btw, how does one tell if there are actually nukes in those bombers and if those nukes are armed?
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Only in a masmans world would Putler break the Budapest Memorandum and invade, occupy and annex another country, Crimea. That would never happen.
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Only in a masmans world would Putler break the Budapest Memorandum and invade, occupy and annex another country, Crimea. That would never happen.
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Only in a madman's world would the West violently overthrow the elected leader of Ukraine murdering numerous civilians and Berkut in the process, launch an unjust war of agression against those in the Donbass who would not comply with the illegal Junta, and then have the audacity to criticize Putin when he secures vital Russian national security interests in Crimea - which he did without virtually firing a shot in a brilliant use of special forces and restraint.
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Only in a masmans world would Putler break the Budapest Memorandum and invade, occupy and annex another country, Crimea. That would never happen.
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Only in a madman's world would the West violently overthrow the elected leader of Ukraine murdering numerous civilians and Berkut in the process, launch an unjust war of agression against those in the Donbass who would not comply with the illegal Junta, and then have the audacity to criticize Putin when he secures vital Russian national security interests in Crimea - which he did without virtually firing a shot in a brilliant use of special forces and restraint.
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He invaded Crimea. Nothing you say can change that fact. Putlerbot.
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I don't fear bears but I put my guard up around them.
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If I am in a place where bears are known to inhabit, I am armed.
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Only in a masmans world would Putler break the Budapest Memorandum and invade, occupy and annex another country, Crimea. That would never happen.
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Only in a madman's world would the West violently overthrow the elected leader of Ukraine murdering numerous civilians and Berkut in the process, launch an unjust war of agression against those in the Donbass who would not comply with the illegal Junta, and then have the audacity to criticize Putin when he secures vital Russian national security interests in Crimea - which he did without virtually firing a shot in a brilliant use of special forces and restraint.
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He invaded Crimea. Nothing you say can change that fact. Putlerbot.
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He secured Russian security interests in Crimea and then secured all of Crimea once it voted to join Russia. The Crimeans voted leave Ukraine and join Russia in a fair election. Nothing you say can change that fact, you warmonger. Had Putin not secured Crimea, the Crimeans there would have been murdered by your boys in Kiev.
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He invaded Crimea. Nothing you say can change that fact. Putlerbot.
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How could he/ Russians 'invade' a place where they already were? People in Crimea are Russian, there are Russian businesses there, Russian ports, & Russian military bases.

There was no Russian invasion. The Russians had been there all along.
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Anyone here re-watch Hunt for Red October in the past 10 years or so?

The Russian political officer's name in the movie is Putin, which course didn't mean anything to (most of) when the movie first came out ;)
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He invaded Crimea. Nothing you say can change that fact. Putlerbot.
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How could he/ Russians 'invade' a place where they already were? People in Crimea are Russian, there are Russian businesses there, Russian ports, & Russian military bases.

There was no Russian invasion. The Russians had been there all along.
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Well then I guess the Chinese should just claim all those areas that are, and have been, filled with Chinese ;)

Zai jian, Moskvu!
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LMFAO, says Putin from Freud's couch:

"Only an insane person and only in a dream can imagine that Russia would suddenly attack Nato,"
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Well then I guess the Chinese should just claim all those areas that are, and have been, filled with Chinese ;)

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Russia already had 25k troops in Crimea in the bases they had rented since the area was given to Ukraine by Khrushchev at the time it was part of the USSR. + Lots of naval vessels.

So there was no innovation as one would normally understand it. It all went just about as peaceful as it could be (2 killed.)

Worse things could have happened. It is time to get over it and move on.
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Problem is the West is mad.
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Well then I guess the Chinese should just claim all those areas that are, and have been, filled with Chinese ;)

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Russia already had 25k troops in Crimea in the bases they had rented since the area was given to Ukraine by Khrushchev at the time it was part of the USSR. + Lots of naval vessels.

So there was no innovation as one would normally understand it. It all went just about as peaceful as it could be (2 killed.)

Worse things could have happened. It is time to get over it and move on.
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Total bullshit.

Those borders had been in place since WWII, were decent logical borders, and all areas were working parts of Ukraine, under Ukraine administration.

Putin started a war in Ukraine by invading it, just as surely as Xi would start a war in China by suddenly taking back the other half of Bolshoi Ussuriysky.
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Who knows what they will be plotting in Hitler's favourite castle.

Then it will be catching a helicopter to the Bilderberg shindig in the Austrian Alps.
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Well then I guess the Chinese should just claim all those areas that are, and have been, filled with Chinese ;)

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Russia already had 25k troops in Crimea in the bases they had rented since the area was given to Ukraine by Khrushchev at the time it was part of the USSR. + Lots of naval vessels.

So there was no innovation as one would normally understand it. It all went just about as peaceful as it could be (2 killed.)

Worse things could have happened. It is time to get over it and move on.
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Total bullshit.

Those borders had been in place since WWII, were decent logical borders, and all areas were working parts of Ukraine, under Ukraine administration.

Putin started a war in Ukraine by invading it, just as surely as Xi would start a war in China by suddenly taking back the other half of Bolshoi Ussuriysky.
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Keep thinking that. Even the US is ready to move on over this.





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