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FAIL! Hawaii closes state's OBAMACARE EXCHANGE: Cost $24k per enrollee!

 
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FAIL! Hawaii closes state's OBAMACARE EXCHANGE: Cost $24k per enrollee!
While Hawaii enrolled zero individuals and is the worst performing state, it is not alone. Vermont signed up only 97 households, while Rhode Island enrolled just 25 households.

Hawaii’s dismal performance should not be surprising. The website cost taxpayers $205 million but could only enroll 8,592 individuals in year one. Cost to taxpayers per enroll: $23,899.

The state legislature recently rejected a $28 million bailout for the website meaning that a contingency plan to dismantle the exchange and migrate to the federal exchange will be implemented immediately. Unfortunately, taxpayers are not off the hook yet as it is expected that moving to the federally run healthcare.gov will cost $30 million.

Hawaii is taking its troubled ObamaCare insurance exchange off life support, the governor’s office announced Friday, the latest addition to a growing number of state exchanges forced to close after operations became unsustainable.

[link to townhall.com]

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The Obama presidency in a nutshell- a black hole sucking everything material into nothingness.
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Democrat success, take tax payer money, hand out to your friends, pay off corporations, and the end result is more problems, that only government spending can fix....

voter recruitment 101
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Democrat success, take tax payer money, hand out to your friends, pay off corporations, and the end result is more problems, that only government spending can fix....

voter recruitment 101
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no reason to stop doing what works then.
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I hope the SCOTUS votes to eliminate the subsidies and really trash it a bit more. But then this is the road to single payer, isn't it?
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:O-smoke:
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The Obama presidency in a nutshell- a black hole sucking everything material into nothingness.
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I hope the SCOTUS votes to eliminate the subsidies and really trash it a bit more. But then this is the road to single payer, isn't it?
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Will probably come down to Chief Judas Roberts again, who has already been compromised
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Another dinado nuffin osuper
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Obamacare was a bailout for the insurance companies at the expense of the middle class. Just a tool to concentrate wealth.
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this means healthcare insurance will increase 70% next year
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Obamacare was a bailout for the insurance companies at the expense of the middle class. Just a tool to concentrate wealth.
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hesright
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Put names on it.

Who got the cash?
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Obamacare was a bailout for the insurance companies at the expense of the middle class. Just a tool to concentrate wealth.
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hesright
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Imagine what i could do if i didn't have to drop $500/ month on ins i DON'T use ...
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Obamacare was a bailout for the insurance companies at the expense of the middle class. Just a tool to concentrate wealth.
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concentration of wealth = dispersion of poverty
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Democrat success, take tax payer money, hand out to your friends, pay off corporations, and the end result is more problems, that only government spending can fix....

voter recruitment 101
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Oddly enough some people still think he's doing a good job! My saintly 90 year old neighbor thinks he's "just wonderful! "

God bless the little children, the old and senile and of course, the liberals!
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I hope the SCOTUS votes to eliminate the subsidies and really trash it a bit more. But then this is the road to single payer, isn't it?
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No, Obama specifically wants the fascist system where you're forced to deal with private insurance companies.
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I work in the tech industry for a web based business software company. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the costs they throw around for these "websites" is absolutely fucking ridiculous robbery. We are talking over 1000% markup imaginary bullshit. I canot fucking believe they are allowed to perpetuate this lunacy.
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It would make more sense to give that money away.
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LOL, excellent!
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Democrat success, take tax payer money, hand out to your friends, pay off corporations, and the end result is more problems, that only government spending can fix....

voter recruitment 101
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no reason to stop doing what works then.
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Read that again. Slower this time...
You lack reading comprehension skills.
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Re: FAIL! Hawaii closes state's OBAMACARE EXCHANGE: Cost $24k per enrollee!
I hope the SCOTUS votes to eliminate the subsidies and really trash it a bit more. But then this is the road to single payer, isn't it?
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Will probably come down to Chief Judas Roberts again, who has already been compromised
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Unless they have something new on him, --we already know about the irregularities in adoption processes of his children. (Irish expectant mothers sent to South American countries to circumvent Irish adoption rules)

They'll just need to find somebody else to blackmail.
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The Obama presidency in a nutshell- a black hole sucking everything material into nothingness.
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The obama cern connection. Both suck,both smash things.
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Just like fake birth certificates, fake swine flu, crazy laws, Obamacare is just but another distraction to keep people's minds off the fact that they are being poisoned to death through city water, vaccinations, generic medicines, high altitude chemical dispersals and shitty foods.
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$2000 PER MONTH FOR HEALTH INSURANCE IN HAWAII BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE!!!!!!! TELL JOE!!!!!!

EVEN IF A SINGLE MOTHER IS MAKING $15 AN HOUR AT BURGER KING IN HAWAII, SHE STILL CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR $250 A MONTH FOR INSURANCE,LET ALONE $2000 A MONTH CAUSED BY OBAMA CARE ALONE, NO OTHER CAUSES MADE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!

Tell JOE!!!!!!!!
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Obamacare was a bailout for the insurance companies at the expense of the middle class. Just a tool to concentrate wealth.
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hesright
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Imagine what i could do if i didn't have to drop $500/ month on ins i DON'T use ...
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Imagine the whining we would hear if you didn't have insurance and received a large hospital bill........

I drop over $8000 a year on insurance, never use it but have it because it is insurance against us going bankrupt if a medical issue would arise.

"Insurance is the equitable transfer of the risk of a loss, from one entity to another in exchange for payment. It is a form of risk management primarily used to hedge against the risk of a contingent, uncertain loss. An insurer, or insurance carrier, is selling the insurance; the insured, or policyholder, is the person or entity buying the insurance policy. The amount of money to be charged for a certain amount of insurance coverage is called the premium. Risk management, the practice of appraising and controlling risk, has evolved as a discrete field of study and practice."

"The transaction involves the insured assuming a guaranteed and known relatively small loss in the form of payment to the insurer in exchange for the insurer's promise to compensate (indemnify) the insured in the case of a financial (personal) loss. The insured receives a contract, called the insurance policy, which details the conditions and circumstances under which the insured will be financially compensated."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That is what insurance is, not pre-paid medical like most think it should be.
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Wonder how the Obama/Herf dynamic duo will say by Hawaii closing it, it PROVES it's working?

Can't wait for the spin. Heck what am I thinking, it won't even be addressed!

Is the consensus on GLP it will end in single pay, as soon as they get as much as they can out of the middle class?

And fuck Roberts. He knows what the government giveth, the government can taketh away. This should have never been allowed. They are letting people die off right now who can't afford it and can't get anything else and can't afford their scripts.
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:nelson:

It would be so much more funny to watch progressive liberal programs like this crash and burn if they weren't destroying our nation in the process.
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I work in the tech industry for a web based business software company. I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the costs they throw around for these "websites" is absolutely fucking ridiculous robbery. We are talking over 1000% markup imaginary bullshit. I canot fucking believe they are allowed to perpetuate this lunacy.
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I am in this sector as well and can 100% verify as true.

Get deep enough into the hacker chats and you'll start hearing about the government contract money train. I can't hardly blame them really, they are just taking what is there. Web development in general is grossly overpriced.





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