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"There was a sign from the sun, the like of which had never been seen and reported before. The sun became dark and its darkness lasted for 18 months. Each day, it shone for about four hours, and still this light was only a feeble shadow. Everyone declared that the sun would never recover its full light again."
Historiae Ecclesiasticae

Between the years 535 and 536, a series of major global climatic events that took place that could easily be described as a global cataclysm with catastrophic consequences. The above abstract is from the sixth century historian and church leader, John of Ephesus, in his historical work, Church Histories.

John of Ephesus is not the only one that mentions this event. Procopius lived between 500 and 565 AD and he was a late antiquities scholar and one of the main historians of the 6th century. He also refers to the strange behaviour of the sun and believed that it was a bad sign and the beginning of other events. And we have yet another reference from the sixth century writer, Zacharias of Mytilene, who authored a chronicle that contains a section referring to the ‘Dark Sun’ for the period of 535/536 AD.

These three extracts are just a representative sample of numerous accounts from all over the world, written in the same period of time. In all cases, the sun was described as getting dimmer and losing its light. Many also described it as having a bluish colour. The effects were also observed with the moon – it wasn’t as bright anymore. The reduction of the light resulted in the reduction of heat on the planet...

One thing that is quite peculiar about this global cataclysm is that it is a very little known event. Why is it that this climatic event is not taught in schools? Why isn’t there a plethora of research examining it? Perhaps it is because it reminds us of our fragility as human beings and the fact that no matter how powerful and ‘advanced’ mankind becomes, we are still at the mercy of nature.

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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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Wow Jess, that is mighty interesting.

A big event of such short duration.

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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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That was one theory. But:

"The catastrophic event struck Korea, the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Australia. While written records do not exist for all countries, archaeological and geological data revealed evidence of the climatic changes. Studies done on the trunks of trees, for example, showed that 536 AD had been the coldest in 1,500 years."

Would the effect of one volcano cause such global effects?
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It was the event that started the Dark Ages. There was mass starvation in Europe at the time.
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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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That was one theory. But:

"The catastrophic event struck Korea, the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Australia. While written records do not exist for all countries, archaeological and geological data revealed evidence of the climatic changes. Studies done on the trunks of trees, for example, showed that 536 AD had been the coldest in 1,500 years."

Would the effect of one volcano cause such global effects?
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Only in one hemisphere, unless it was multiple volcanoes.
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As soon as i saw the thread "could it be the coldest summer..." i knew they were testing the water for climate change threads.. and now, no other than tess with her agenga.

can you be any more blatant?
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wtf
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that's very interesting OP. like most sheeple, I've never heard of those historians. good catch OP.
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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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That was one theory. But:

"The catastrophic event struck Korea, the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Australia. While written records do not exist for all countries, archaeological and geological data revealed evidence of the climatic changes. Studies done on the trunks of trees, for example, showed that 536 AD had been the coldest in 1,500 years."

Would the effect of one volcano cause such global effects?
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In short. YES...
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As soon as i saw the thread "could it be the coldest summer..." i knew they were testing the water for climate change threads.. and now, no other than tess with her agenga.

can you be any more blatant?
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wtf
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Lol just another delusional GLP fuckup. Don't worry Tess some of us understand that you are posting interesting things. The others don t have the brain capacity to tie their shoes without Velcro.
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Thanks you OP for such a truly great post.

Right now- ie, the past year or two- more volcanos are going off than in recorded history. That doesn't mean more ash necessarily, as they may be smaller volcanos, but it does mean the ring of fire is very active.

( I keep my eye on this site for volcano news: [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com (secure)] )

I truly believe it is wisdom to store up as much long term packaged food as possible, at the very least beans and rice or wheat and oats. Those #10 cans packed in nitrogen will keep at least 24 years and maybe 30-40.

High food prices is one thing. No food at the stores, or rationing and martial law is another. We can lose 1-2 harvests if the volcano scenario gets worse.

There are many short season seeds available...Fedco has a lot, and territorial seeds. Your growing zone for summer gardens could shrink 3-4 weeks at either end of the season. Instead of me planting mid may with no frost until Oct, I might have to plant mid June and get frost by Sept. It is a good idea to experiment now with short season crops. I like Early Girl tomatoes for that reason, and am trying out some other short season varieties.

Thanks again OP. More than 5 stars for this.
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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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That was one theory. But:

"The catastrophic event struck Korea, the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Australia. While written records do not exist for all countries, archaeological and geological data revealed evidence of the climatic changes. Studies done on the trunks of trees, for example, showed that 536 AD had been the coldest in 1,500 years."

Would the effect of one volcano cause such global effects?
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In short. YES...
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They seem to have found evidence in the Greenland ice sheet. It looks like it took a year for the effects of Krakatoa to be felt in the northern hemisphere.

'The fact that a sulphate layer can be seen not only in the northern but also the southern polar region implies that the eruption probably happened close to the Equator, so that its dust was dispersed all over the Earth'

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this doom, along with large tsunamis, is exactly what awaits us all, or the vast majority of us anyway
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Thanks you OP for such a truly great post.

Right now- ie, the past year or two- more volcanos are going off than in recorded history. That doesn't mean more ash necessarily, as they may be smaller volcanos, but it does mean the ring of fire is very active.

( I keep my eye on this site for volcano news: [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com (secure)] )

I truly believe it is wisdom to store up as much long term packaged food as possible, at the very least beans and rice or wheat and oats. Those #10 cans packed in nitrogen will keep at least 24 years and maybe 30-40.

High food prices is one thing. No food at the stores, or rationing and martial law is another. We can lose 1-2 harvests if the volcano scenario gets worse.

There are many short season seeds available...Fedco has a lot, and territorial seeds. Your growing zone for summer gardens could shrink 3-4 weeks at either end of the season. Instead of me planting mid may with no frost until Oct, I might have to plant mid June and get frost by Sept. It is a good idea to experiment now with short season crops. I like Early Girl tomatoes for that reason, and am trying out some other short season varieties.

Thanks again OP. More than 5 stars for this.
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The drought in California has affected fruit, vegetable, and nut farms. The floods in Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas have ruined thousands of acres of half-grown crops. The bird flu could hit poultry growers again. Expect food prices to consistently get higher.
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"There was a sign from the sun, the like of which had never been seen and reported before. The sun became dark and its darkness lasted for 18 months. Each day, it shone for about four hours, and still this light was only a feeble shadow. Everyone declared that the sun would never recover its full light again."
Historiae Ecclesiasticae

Between the years 535 and 536, a series of major global climatic events that took place that could easily be described as a global cataclysm with catastrophic consequences. The above abstract is from the sixth century historian and church leader, John of Ephesus, in his historical work, Church Histories.

John of Ephesus is not the only one that mentions this event. Procopius lived between 500 and 565 AD and he was a late antiquities scholar and one of the main historians of the 6th century. He also refers to the strange behaviour of the sun and believed that it was a bad sign and the beginning of other events. And we have yet another reference from the sixth century writer, Zacharias of Mytilene, who authored a chronicle that contains a section referring to the ‘Dark Sun’ for the period of 535/536 AD.

These three extracts are just a representative sample of numerous accounts from all over the world, written in the same period of time. In all cases, the sun was described as getting dimmer and losing its light. Many also described it as having a bluish colour. The effects were also observed with the moon – it wasn’t as bright anymore. The reduction of the light resulted in the reduction of heat on the planet...

One thing that is quite peculiar about this global cataclysm is that it is a very little known event. Why is it that this climatic event is not taught in schools? Why isn’t there a plethora of research examining it? Perhaps it is because it reminds us of our fragility as human beings and the fact that no matter how powerful and ‘advanced’ mankind becomes, we are still at the mercy of nature.

Read more: [link to www.ancient-origins.net]
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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Very nice!
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Because it does not fit the global warming agenda.
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It was Global Cooling caused by burning fossil fuels in 535 AD.

Unknown to most historians, Nero Motors Co., of Rome, had been producing the 500 HP Tyrannicus SUV. Ideally suited for rough Roman roads, this four wheel monster was also used to subjugate Gaul and Germania. It could hold a Roman family of four comfortably with one British Isle slave, or four fully equipped Roman soldiers.
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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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That was one theory. But:

"The catastrophic event struck Korea, the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Australia. While written records do not exist for all countries, archaeological and geological data revealed evidence of the climatic changes. Studies done on the trunks of trees, for example, showed that 536 AD had been the coldest in 1,500 years."

Would the effect of one volcano cause such global effects?
 Quoting: Tess.


Yes, the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa changed the climate of the entire world:

1883 Krakatoa eruption
Global climate

In the year following the eruption, average Northern Hemisphere summer temperatures fell by as much as 1.2 °C (2.2 °F).[9] Weather patterns continued to be chaotic for years, and temperatures did not return to normal until 1888.[9] The record rainfall that hit Southern California during the “water year” from July 1883 to June 1884 – Los Angeles received 38.18 inches (969.8 mm) and San Diego 25.97 inches (659.6 mm)[10] – has been attributed to the Krakatoa eruption.[11] There was no El Niño during that period as is normal when heavy rain occurs in Southern California,[12] but many scientists doubt this proposed causal relationship.[13]

The eruption injected an unusually large amount of sulfur dioxide (SO2) gas high into the stratosphere, which was subsequently transported by high level winds all over the planet. This led to a global increase in sulfuric acid (H2SO4) concentration in high level cirrus clouds. The resulting increase in cloud reflectivity (or albedo) would reflect more incoming light from the sun than usual, and cool the entire planet until the suspended sulfur fell to the ground as acid precipitation.[14]
Global optical effects

The eruption darkened the sky worldwide for years afterwards, and produced spectacular sunsets throughout the world for many months. British artist William Ashcroft made thousands of colour sketches of the red sunsets halfway around the world from Krakatoa in the years after the eruption. The ash caused "such vivid red sunsets that fire engines were called out in New York, Poughkeepsie, and New Haven to quench the apparent conflagration." This eruption also produced a Bishop's Ring around the sun by day, and a volcanic purple light at twilight.

In 2004, an astronomer proposed the idea that the blood-red sky shown in Edvard Munch's famous 1893 painting The Scream is also an accurate depiction of the sky over Norway after the eruption.

Weather watchers of the time tracked and mapped the effects on the sky. They labeled the phenomenon the "equatorial smoke stream". This was the first identification of what is known today as the jet stream.

For several years following the eruption, it was reported that the moon appeared to be blue and sometimes green. This was because some of the ash clouds were filled with particles about 1 µm wide—the right size to strongly scatter red light, while allowing other colors to pass. White moonbeams shining through the clouds emerged blue, and sometimes green. People also saw lavender suns and, for the first time, noctilucent clouds.
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When I was going to school it was taught. There were climatic changes right after Romes' fall, then a little better then it would hit again, until they could walk miles and never see another man or woman, so yes a lot is forgot history nowadays but not for people who were taught it.

Scotland has the best records I was told which went back almost to the time of Christ. Don't know where they are now.

Bad time not just in Europe, it was world wide, The Americas and China, I really think it was every place in the world.

I don't know about Australia or other Islands, but most place if you check you will find a change in the way they lived and moved during those times.
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That would be Krakatau Volcanic eruption 535ad


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Very nice!
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those two islands, Sumatra and Java, USED to be joined

krakatoa blew itself to smithereens and created the large channel now between them

can you IMAGINE how big that eruption must have been?

one good thing, i suppose, is it proves super eruptions CAN be survived, because our ancestors DID survive it, BUT there were far fewer on the planet at that time, AND they lived closer to the land than us soft fucks, sucking on the government tit
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Wasn't that also the time of Camelot and King Arthur? A comet crashed into Brittain starting the black plague all over Europe.

sometimes whole civilizations being eradicated, by impacts of debris from the sky.” Could something cataclysmic have happened in the age of Arthur that was not properly recorded at the time? Has this later been ‘mythologized’ to create the figure we today know as Arthur, and all the stories that come with him?

[link to atlantisrisingmagazine.com]
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"There was a sign from the sun, the like of which had never been seen and reported before. The sun became dark and its darkness lasted for 18 months. Each day, it shone for about four hours, and still this light was only a feeble shadow. Everyone declared that the sun would never recover its full light again."
Historiae Ecclesiasticae

Between the years 535 and 536, a series of major global climatic events that took place that could easily be described as a global cataclysm with catastrophic consequences. The above abstract is from the sixth century historian and church leader, John of Ephesus, in his historical work, Church Histories.

John of Ephesus is not the only one that mentions this event. Procopius lived between 500 and 565 AD and he was a late antiquities scholar and one of the main historians of the 6th century. He also refers to the strange behaviour of the sun and believed that it was a bad sign and the beginning of other events. And we have yet another reference from the sixth century writer, Zacharias of Mytilene, who authored a chronicle that contains a section referring to the ‘Dark Sun’ for the period of 535/536 AD.

These three extracts are just a representative sample of numerous accounts from all over the world, written in the same period of time. In all cases, the sun was described as getting dimmer and losing its light. Many also described it as having a bluish colour. The effects were also observed with the moon – it wasn’t as bright anymore. The reduction of the light resulted in the reduction of heat on the planet...

One thing that is quite peculiar about this global cataclysm is that it is a very little known event. Why is it that this climatic event is not taught in schools? Why isn’t there a plethora of research examining it? Perhaps it is because it reminds us of our fragility as human beings and the fact that no matter how powerful and ‘advanced’ mankind becomes, we are still at the mercy of nature.

Read more: [link to www.ancient-origins.net]
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Thanks for the info, me lady.
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Were the Dark Ages Triggered by Volcano-Related Climate Changes in the 6th Century?
(If so, was Krakatau volcano the culprit?)

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Modern history has its origins in the tumultuous 6th and 7th centuries. During this period agricultural failures and the emergence of the plague contributed to: (1) the demise of ancient super cities, old Persia, Indonesian civilizations, the Nasca culture of South America, and southern Arabian civilizations; (2) the schism of the Roman Empire with the conception of many nation states and the re-birth of a united China; and (3) the origin and spread of Islam while Arian Christianity disappeared.

In his book, Catastrophe An Investigation into the Origins of the Modern World, author David Keys explores history and archaeology to link all of these human upheavals to climate destabilization brought on by a natural catastrophe, with strong evidence from tree-ring and ice-core data that it occurred in 535 AD. With no supporting evidence for an impact-related event, I worked with Keys to narrow down the possibilities for a volcanic eruption that could affect both hemispheres and bring about several decades of disrupted climate patterns, most notably colder and drier weather in Europe and Asia, where descriptions of months with diminished sun light, persistent cold, and anomalous summer snow falls are recorded in 6th-century written accounts.
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Wasn't that also the time of Camelot and King Arthur? A comet crashed into Brittain starting the black plague all over Europe.

sometimes whole civilizations being eradicated, by impacts of debris from the sky.” Could something cataclysmic have happened in the age of Arthur that was not properly recorded at the time? Has this later been ‘mythologized’ to create the figure we today know as Arthur, and all the stories that come with him?

[link to atlantisrisingmagazine.com]
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This article suggests that the plague 'might have been triggered by cold weather, during which it may be easier for plague-bearing fleas to reproduce.'

[link to www.nature.com]

(It's just briefly mentioned at the bottom of the article.)
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