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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58686169 United States 06/09/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The list of ingredients of the Coppertone Kids Sunscreen Lotion they are putting on the sheeples kids: Quoting: Lilac.Nights Active Ingredients: Octinoxate (7.5%), Octisalate (5%), Zinc Oxide (14.5%) Inactive Ingredients: Water, Propylene Glycol, C12 15 Alkyl Benzoate, Neopentyl Glycol Diheptanoate, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cetyl/PEG/PPG 10/1 Dimethicone, PEG 12 Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Triethoxycaprylylsilane, Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Leaf Juice, Ethyhexyl Palmitate, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Chloride You only want zinc oxide or/and titanium oxide. They act like a mirror, reflecting sunlight away. The others, they are just absorbed in the skin causing some sort of chemical reaction that is probably causing skin problems or cancer. FDA do not do testing to ensure the safety of sunscreen at all, I believe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69268965 United States 06/09/2015 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! You picked it AND pay for it. Derp ^^^^ signed Derp Well Derp how about the school stay the hell out of all chemical and medical decisions of the parents. If it was not in the contract then the licensing issue is the schools problem not the parents problem. |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/09/2015 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! You picked it AND pay for it. Derp ^^^^ signed Derp Well Derp how about the school stay the hell out of all chemical and medical decisions of the parents. If it was not in the contract then the licensing issue is the schools problem not the parents problem. But what is this "licensing"? I assume the school needs to have a policy as part of getting a license in order to open. That policy is strictly the school creation + whatever is required by law. Is this correct so far? How is it legal for a school to have a policy that requires application of a chemicals to a child? Even the government cant do that. |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/09/2015 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The list of ingredients of the Coppertone Kids Sunscreen Lotion they are putting on the sheeples kids: Quoting: Lilac.Nights Active Ingredients: Octinoxate (7.5%), Octisalate (5%), Zinc Oxide (14.5%) Inactive Ingredients: Water, Propylene Glycol, C12 15 Alkyl Benzoate, Neopentyl Glycol Diheptanoate, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cetyl/PEG/PPG 10/1 Dimethicone, PEG 12 Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Triethoxycaprylylsilane, Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Leaf Juice, Ethyhexyl Palmitate, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Sodium Chloride You only want zinc oxide or/and titanium oxide. They act like a mirror, reflecting sunlight away. The others, they are just absorbed in the skin causing some sort of chemical reaction that is probably causing skin problems or cancer. FDA do not do testing to ensure the safety of sunscreen at all, I believe. I don't even want titanium oxide, plus some use nano zinc oxide / titanium oxide, so that's dangerous too. |
Booger Cancer User ID: 68246264 United States 06/09/2015 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The school is not going to bend, especially if they are claiming their license requires it. Maybe a doctor's prescription of sunlight for his eczema would work, otherwise transfer. Yes, I did cure my Stage 4 cancer in two weeks when I was 48. I also reversed my chronic kidney disease (glomerulonephritis) when I was 25. In neither case were any medical treatments involved. |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/09/2015 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The school is not going to bend, especially if they are claiming their license requires it. Maybe a doctor's prescription of sunlight for his eczema would work, otherwise transfer. But that is my problem, how can a school require application of ANY substance? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69268965 United States 06/09/2015 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The school is not going to bend, especially if they are claiming their license requires it. Maybe a doctor's prescription of sunlight for his eczema would work, otherwise transfer. But that is my problem, how can a school require application of ANY substance? Because the government (an ever growing beast) is trying to take control of everyone, children first. Just look at the requirements some schools have over vaccinations. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69460762 United States 06/09/2015 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! It's probably already been suggested, but you can just put anything in a bottle and call it sunscreen. I realize eczema makes it hard--is there anything benign that his skin can tolerate, like olive oil or aloe vera gel? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69460762 United States 06/09/2015 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! It's probably already been suggested, but you can just put anything in a bottle and call it sunscreen. I realize eczema makes it hard--is there anything benign that his skin can tolerate, like olive oil or aloe vera gel? Oh heh--the AC above me beat me to it lol. If you're going to empty out a bottle, might want to pick a very gentle natural sunscreen bottle so that any residual cream won't bother his skin. But great idea! |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/09/2015 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I picked my son from school and he was not a happy puppy. He was upset. He was made to sit in the corner of the yard and do nothing during lunch recess, he also told me that they caught him in the sun a few time they put him in time out for a few minutes. |
tiger1 User ID: 68665462 United States 06/09/2015 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I picked my son from school and he was not a happy puppy. He was upset. Quoting: Lilac.Nights He was made to sit in the corner of the yard and do nothing during lunch recess, he also told me that they caught him in the sun a few time they put him in time out for a few minutes. Get a lawyer. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64805035 Canada 06/09/2015 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! bath him in baking soda and sea salt. I got rid of eczema this way.. It alkalizes your skin.. It will take a week or more of nightly bathing but you will see huge improvement. And you should be putting sun screen on him.. I am a fair skinned ginger and my dumbass mom never put any on me when I was too young to know any better, grew up with bad freckling lol.. Its cleared up now but if he is fair skinned, you really should make sure he has some protection.. With our weakening ozone, I burn in 15 mins now when I could go a few hours with no problems.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65891613 United States 06/09/2015 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! Russian? |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/09/2015 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly sooo pissed! Quoting: Lilac.Nights My son goes to a small private school in WA, he is in second grade. I was just informed that the school's policy is "no sunscreen/no play in the sun". My son is made to stay in a tiny corner of the playground that provides shade for every recess, just because I refuse to put sunscreen on him. I've already explained that he suffers from eczema and the last year haves and I will not put anything on him. I don't even use soap. Nothing.... First of all our kids are so low on vit D that they need some sun exposure, second we are not on the equator for god's sake, we are in the Northern WA, you can barely get enough sun if you expose your whole naked body to it. The only naked parts on my son are his face, hands and bellow the knees. This is just retarded. Don't you hate it when the school tries to be the parent? This resembles to the T how we were treated during the communism. I emailed his teacher and that's her reply: "Yes, you may send your own sunscreen. It needs to have a manufacturer's label showing the SPF. Our licensing policy prohibits us from allowing kids to play in the sun without sunscreen. If you have any further questions, please contact..." Any help is greatly appreciated! Russian? I'm Bulgarian. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67903691 United States 06/09/2015 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It feels like overnight these schools have started to think they have the parental rights, I was told it wasn't my job to teach my children. I am going to homeschool for the first time this upcoming school year and to be honest I'm scared but happy, I need to get them out of the schools the schools are only going to get worse, I have a feeling this next school year is when they lay down the commie hammer on all of us. |
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Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/10/2015 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It feels like overnight these schools have started to think they have the parental rights, I was told it wasn't my job to teach my children. I am going to homeschool for the first time this upcoming school year and to be honest I'm scared but happy, I need to get them out of the schools the schools are only going to get worse, I have a feeling this next school year is when they lay down the commie hammer on all of us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67903691 Yes, scary. My daughter is homeschooling next year, she is 16. Public school keep them intentionally busy, kids have no time or energy to actually learn something useful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 06/10/2015 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The atmosphere is thinner in the northern hemisphere, hence it does not matter how safe you think it is in comparison to other areas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69455431 As for vitamin d levels being low and needing the sun to produce it - well, it takes about 5 to 10 minutes TOPS for the body to produce it from solar exposure. But, with the overall increase in UV rays hitting the surface - those levels will crash anyway as whatever is produced is used up to repair damage. Sunscreen or not, yoru child is not safe in the sun beyond a few minutes. Take it as you will... did you know that sunscreen like glass allows the correct wavelenght of light through to the skin to produce vitamin d2. the body has to convert this d2 into d3, which in turn takes up d3. leaving a net loss of d3. understand? Whether one uses sunscreen or not, going outside during the daytime - especially if one is white skinned - will shorten one's life considerably. You people know exactly what is happening on this planet. You all can see clearly that EVERY species on the planet is experiencing massive die offs and going down - including humans. Sunscreen is not the cause of low vitamin d levels nor is is causing skin cancer other than by giving people a false sense of security to stay in the sun for long periods of time. To continue to push the meme of 'no sunscreen protection - go natural' is a sign of psychological dissociation. How about telling people to stay out of the sun? Oh wait, the official advice is basically to do just that - but that's just a conspiracy to the disturbed. She could send a long sleeve buttoned up shirt with him made of a lighter fabric so it breathes and have him wear a hat when he goes outside to play. That would help protect him from over exposure since the sun is so harsh these days. |
Let Freedom Ring 365 User ID: 51565483 United States 06/10/2015 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tell them they are restraining your son's freedom of movement and segregating him against your express wishes. Quoting: beeches That might get their attention. Doctor's note, maybe too. Tell them they will be directly responsible to ANY damage to him for lack of Vitamin D. you are not going to back down. if you do, they will never take you or another parent seriously again. Best of luck to you. Schools are way too involved in matters that do not concern them. Absolutely not backing down! Thank you for the advice! Good luck! IF the dr note doesn't do the trick, I'd change schools pronto and since they did not tell u about this ridiculous policy, I'd think u could break ur contract. You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/10/2015 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just go to Whole Foods, or PCC and buy the Organic, Natural Non Toxic kind. Sure it's more money, but you'll be good! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63103406 Or get a doctor's note. I have one, I just don't want to use it. That's the problem. I do not wish to apply anything on his skin right now. It is a principal of things. On the other hand I spoke with my husband and he got really upset over this. I asked him if he remembers what we signed and we both agreed that policy of school was not provided at the time. I don't even know if I have a copy of the contract. So my husband was like "Don't fight with them, they probably have a line somewhere in the contract that you agree with the school policy" agh.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 06/10/2015 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't your doctor recommend a safe sunscreen for him until you can switch schools after September? There are eczema-friendly sunscreens out there. And get a doctor's note at the same time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12630340 Problem solved. The problem is, I don't want to be PRESSURED to put ANYTHING on him. That is crazy! Since when have we become so complicit? This is scary! Then you would have to find a school that will cater to you or homeschool him. Just put some other cream in the sunscreen bottle until you can figure out what to do. There are ways to get around most things and this is the most reasonable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69408511 United States 06/10/2015 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no previous notice of this policy you should be entitled to a refund for any remaining time on your contract. They withheld important information that would have been a major deciding factor on whether or not you would have sent your child there. Check every paper you signed and use a magnifying glass because if there is any mention of this policy there isn't much you can do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 06/10/2015 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just go to Whole Foods, or PCC and buy the Organic, Natural Non Toxic kind. Sure it's more money, but you'll be good! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63103406 Or get a doctor's note. I have one, I just don't want to use it. That's the problem. I do not wish to apply anything on his skin right now. It is a principal of things. On the other hand I spoke with my husband and he got really upset over this. I asked him if he remembers what we signed and we both agreed that policy of school was not provided at the time. I don't even know if I have a copy of the contract. So my husband was like "Don't fight with them, they probably have a line somewhere in the contract that you agree with the school policy" agh.... Yup, don't fight them. You will raise too many red flags and all this mess will make your son very unhappy. Again, find a sunscreen bottle and fill it up with a cream that won't irritate his skin and might even help it some. I don't think you should tell your son that there is not sunscreen in the bottle in case he accidentally says something. It is better for him to think there is sunscreen in the bottle. |
Lilac.Nights (OP) User ID: 33914227 United States 06/10/2015 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was no previous notice of this policy you should be entitled to a refund for any remaining time on your contract. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69408511 They withheld important information that would have been a major deciding factor on whether or not you would have sent your child there. Check every paper you signed and use a magnifying glass because if there is any mention of this policy there isn't much you can do. Right...pretty much what my husband and I think. He is definitely out of this school next year... I have to ask THEM about our contract, this sucks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64965697 United States 06/10/2015 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like the filling a bottle with something else idea. Every sunscreen....even the natural, healthfood store ones...give my son a rash. One lotion that he can use is the Everyday Shea and Everyday Coconut lotions. I'd put that in a sunscreen bottle. They won't know the difference. |