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Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!

 
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Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
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Posted on June 13, 2015 by Soren Dreier
Author: True Activist


After Iceland suffered a heavy hit in the 2008-2009 financial crisis, which famously resulted in convictions and jail terms for a number of top banking executives, the IMF now says the country has managed to achieve economic recovery—“without compromising its welfare model,” which includes universal healthcare and education.

In fact, Iceland is on track to become the first European country that suffered in the financial meltdown to “surpass its pre-crisis peak of economic output”—essentially proving to the U.S. that bailing out “too big to fail” banks wasn’t the way to go.

Iceland is beautifully, yet unfortunately, unique in how it chose to handle the disaster. It simply let the banks fail, which resulted in defaults totaling $85 billion—lending ample justification for the prosecution and conviction of bank executives for various fraud-related charges.

The decision seemed shocking at the time, but the gamble has obviously paid off. Choosing a different route, the U.S. bailed out the banks and let executives off the hook by levying fines that ultimately ended up being paid by the corporations—meaning the executives ostensibly responsible for the mess got off scot-free.

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"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
interesting but there are only 15 people living in Iceland so it's not a good case study
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interesting but there are only 15 people living in Iceland so it's not a good case study
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lol
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Yeah but they don't have toxic populations of Jews, Negroes, or Mix-a-cans ready to burn, loot, murder, rape and destroy everything in site?

?
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I wish everyone knew this.
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
Iceland was bankrupt a few years ago. Now we are doing fine. No big deal.
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
interesting but there are only 15 people living in Iceland so it's not a good case study
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lol
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Iceland is in many ways similar to the United states, it is like a micro model of USA.
The US has 300 million people, we have 330.000

Iceland actually never defaulted on anything. The banks were actually privately owned and no state guarantee on any of their commitments.

There was a brief rescue attempt in the first days of the crisis, A QE type cash for trash support operation for several financial entities, and a 500 million Euro emergency loan to Kaupthing bank.
This almost bankrupted the state owned central bank.

Trying to save the banking system would have been insane, forking money into a bottomless pit is idiotic, and only a halfwit would persist in such blatant idiocy.

There has been intense pressure from the public to bring those responsible to justice and considerable progress has been made.

I suspect that those who thought they were untouchable, above and beyond the law ordinary people are subjected to see the world differently now.
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Well find a way to make you pay
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Trying to save the banking system would have been insane, forking money into a bottomless pit is idiotic, and only a halfwit would persist in such blatant idiocy.
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Sadly, this seems to describe the US goobermint. Putting off the inevitable is NOT going to make anything easier.


This reminds me of the old joke, "What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"

"A good start."

rimshot



Good show, Iceland! cheers
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Trying to save the banking system would have been insane, forking money into a bottomless pit is idiotic, and only a halfwit would persist in such blatant idiocy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39927871


Sadly, this seems to describe the US goobermint. Putting off the inevitable is NOT going to make anything easier.


This reminds me of the old joke, "What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"

"A good start."

rimshot



Good show, Iceland! cheers
 Quoting: Little Penguin



The only sense was to just take the hit and let the banks crash.
Everything that was done in the western world has actually made matters worse.
All those stimulus experiments, multiple QE operations, the twist and all kinds of nonsense has done nothing but screw up the stock markets and bond markets so no one really knows what anything is really worth anymore.

Its odd to see how the federal reserve, who is a privately owned entity, can mire the US state and its citizens in debt they produce out of thin air to help a small number of scumbags rig the stock market.

I wonder if this can be legal ?

I suspect that after the next crash there will be a more sensible and civilized approach used to deal with the issue.
Many bankruptcies, and big ones.
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
Iceland was bankrupt a few years ago. Now we are doing fine. No big deal.
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I wonder how much money they'll donate to the Democrats in the upcoming election.
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You jail 'em, we bail 'em.
Not we, really, I was not consulted.
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BAHAHAHHAH

that is so full of epic win, it's priceless..........
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
Iceland is in many ways similar to the United states, it is like a micro model of USA.
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Oh your population is 12% black, 40% hispanic and you don't imprison any bankers for fraud and let jews control your media and government? Cool.
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
Yay Iceland. Common Sense prevails!
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
It's because they did the right thing and said fuck the banks.
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
Note!!! Many of the American bankers received bonuses because they produced a positive cash flow!
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
there are 50-100 jews in iceland and the first lady is jewish ... there are also 700-900 moslems ... out of a population of 330,000

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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
So expect Iceland being flooded by cultural challenged in a near future.
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We need to do the same in the USA and start JAILING BANKERS.

and free the pot prisoners.
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Yeah but they don't have toxic populations of Jews, Negroes, or Mix-a-cans ready to burn, loot, murder, rape and destroy everything in site?

?
 Quoting: Anus the Heinous


NO JEWS IN ICELAND????

That's ANTISEMITISM!

ACK!

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We need to do the same in the USA and start JAILING BANKERS.

and free the pot prisoners.
 Quoting: Kira Kaadwalladyr


obama9
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So expect Iceland being flooded by cultural challenged in a near future.
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Iceland is no longer applying for EU membership, so immigration is limited to the needs of the economy as it has been in the past.

Those who immigrate need to have a job, or go to school or do something productive.

The vast majority of immigrants seem to have no problems becoming a part of Icelandic society.
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We need to do the same in the USA and start JAILING BANKERS.

and free the pot prisoners.
 Quoting: Kira Kaadwalladyr


iamwith
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Iceland is in many ways similar to the United states, it is like a micro model of USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39927871


Oh your population is 12% black, 40% hispanic and you don't imprison any bankers for fraud and let jews control your media and government? Cool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68555493


Iceland is a western style society, influenced by US in many ways. I suppose we have cherry picked the positive elements out of American culture and left out the negative parts.

Like, there has never been any military in Iceland and foreign policy is generally a peaceful one.
Capital punishments were outlawed a long time ago, the last execution took place in 1830.
The police is generally unarmed and only once in its history the armed special forces within the police shot someone and killed.
There is a strong constitution in the country and it is fiercely defended by the citizens, amendments and other changes to this constitution are not easy.
The public applies intense pressure on the justice system to make sure everyone gets the same treatment, this is not a optimal system for some bankers and politicians who rely on a more flexible system.
The public keeps the parliament in check, if they try to pull something dangerously stupid, then they are taken behind the old wood shed for a lesson about honesty and morals.

I suppose those issues are somewhat different than what you might see in the US.
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We'll find a way to make you pay
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hesright
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We will never recover and if we do, it will happen again and again because we didn't jail them.

If the law doesn't apply to everyone, we have no rule of law.

To restore our country, we must return to a FREE PRESS, jail the bankers and try most of our government for treason.
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Hang the bankers high, problem solved.
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@OP,

you say:

"proving to the U.S. that bailing out “too big to fail” banks wasn’t the way to go"

I must point out the elephant in the corner:

The U.S. (well much of it, certainly that with capitol influence) is now a corporate branch of said too big to fail banks.
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Re: Iceland Recovering Fastest in Europe After Jailing Bankers!
Hang the bankers high, problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69470669


But if the bankers own the gallows and all of the macabre staff that maintain and operate them... then what?





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