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The message behind the removal of Alexander Hamilton from the $10 bill.

 
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The message behind the removal of Alexander Hamilton from the $10 bill.
“Divide et impera must be the motto of every nation that either hates or fears us.”
Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers

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“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”
Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers

“The complete independence of the courts of justice is peculiarly essential in a limited Constitution. By a limited Constitution, I understand one which contains certain specified exceptions to the legislative authority .... Limitations of this kind can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing.”
Alexander Hamilton

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Alexander Hamilton co-authored the Federalist Papers and was dedicated to the ratification of the Constitution of the United States.

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Before the ratification of the U.S. Constitution the 13 states formed a loose union with the Articles of Confederation. Because the Articles didn't provide for economic stability and a strong continental army the union was near collapse only 8 years after the Revolutionary War.

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If Hamilton hadn't greatly contributed to the ratification of the U.S. Constitution our country very well may not have existed for over a decade.

First they divide us and ban a symbol of resistance to abusive federal authority using racism and now they will remove Hamilton from the face U.S. currency using racism as well.

What next?

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Re: The message behind the removal of Alexander Hamilton from the $10 bill.
Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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Re: The message behind the removal of Alexander Hamilton from the $10 bill.
Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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I had a hard time with that as well until I realized how weak the previous union was.

Regardless, the Federalists of then were the proponents of our current Constitution.
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Hamilton had personally witnessed the weaknesses of the Continental Army and realized that we wouldn't be able to stand as a nation without a stable economic platform to support it.
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Many of Hamilton's quotes support things that we are seeing attacked today.

He believed in a well armed population. We know that our federal government want nothing more than to disarm us.

He believed that the strength of our nation rested on our solidarity. We have seen decisive moves to create a division.

He believed that the separation of our court justices from government influence was necessary to maintain the freedoms outlined in the Constitution, and we have witnessed this week that they most certainly are influenced.

I believe that Hamilton's removal from the $10 bill is their verifiable confirmation that they are targeting these things, along with the Constitution itself... a document he championed into ratification.
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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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I had a hard time with that as well until I realized how weak the previous union was.

Regardless, the Federalists of then were the proponents of our current Constitution.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


He is partly responsible for the US central bank leading to the Federal Reserve.


I am on the fence over this topic. On one hand he is good, on the other hand I disagree with the Federal Reserve.

He may have had good intentions and others hijacked the concept.

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Dude was a poor shot.

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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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I had a hard time with that as well until I realized how weak the previous union was.

Regardless, the Federalists of then were the proponents of our current Constitution.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


He is partly responsible for the US central bank leading to the Federal Reserve.


I am on the fence over this topic. On one hand he is good, on the other hand I disagree with the Federal Reserve.

He may have had good intentions and others hijacked the concept.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


I agree with you as well. He did contribute heavily to the creation of the central bank, modeling it after the same system in the UK.

I'm not sure that the Federalists from then could even imagine the enormity and intrusiveness of our current federal government.
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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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I had a hard time with that as well until I realized how weak the previous union was.

Regardless, the Federalists of then were the proponents of our current Constitution.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


He is partly responsible for the US central bank leading to the Federal Reserve.


I am on the fence over this topic. On one hand he is good, on the other hand I disagree with the Federal Reserve.

He may have had good intentions and others hijacked the concept.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


I agree with you as well. He did contribute heavily to the creation of the central bank, modeling it after the same system in the UK.

I'm not sure that the Federalists from then could even imagine the enormity and intrusiveness of our current federal government.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


Last two nations with out a central bank = Iran and North Korea.

Not even the US President is allowed in the Federal Reserve building. That I feel is contempt to US sovereignty.


I support Imperialism and am against Federalism. Federalism is like multiculturalism, it doesn't work too well in the long run.


A nation like China can have a leader run the Nation for 30+ years. Where as a US President can only max at 8 years.

Now, the US is only capable of 8 year plans or less. While the leader who is in power his entire life can act on a lifetime plan.

Which can provide stronger, more impacting results over the Nation they rule.
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Total Rothschild agent.

Fuck Alex he was no Lincoln.
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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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Strong is relative. I think Alex would be shocked and mortified by just how dictorially strong this central gov has become.
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Total Rothschild agent.

Fuck Alex he was no Lincoln.
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Maybe he was a Rothschild agent, or maybe he wasn't.

Either way one question remains... what benefit was there for Rothschild to gain through ratification of the Constitution?
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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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If you think Hamilton would endorse what we have now, then you are truly one stooooooopid motherfucker.
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I had a hard time with that as well until I realized how weak the previous union was.

Regardless, the Federalists of then were the proponents of our current Constitution.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


He is partly responsible for the US central bank leading to the Federal Reserve.


I am on the fence over this topic. On one hand he is good, on the other hand I disagree with the Federal Reserve.

He may have had good intentions and others hijacked the concept.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


I agree with you as well. He did contribute heavily to the creation of the central bank, modeling it after the same system in the UK.

I'm not sure that the Federalists from then could even imagine the enormity and intrusiveness of our current federal government.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


Last two nations with out a central bank = Iran and North Korea.

Not even the US President is allowed in the Federal Reserve building. That I feel is contempt to US sovereignty.


I support Imperialism and am against Federalism. Federalism is like multiculturalism, it doesn't work too well in the long run.


A nation like China can have a leader run the Nation for 30+ years. Where as a US President can only max at 8 years.

Now, the US is only capable of 8 year plans or less. While the leader who is in power his entire life can act on a lifetime plan.

Which can provide stronger, more impacting results over the Nation they rule.
 Quoting: -VonAmoR-


Thanks for this info, this is some good stuff. I had no idea that the only two countries left without a central bank was Iran and North Korea. That is epic, everyone needs to know that.

The president of the United States isn't allowed in the Federal Reserve building...

DOrolleyes

That's absurd!

I always felt that the one thing that could unify the citizens of the United States against this evil would be outing the Federal Reserve.

As far as Imperialism is concerned, I understand your position... but there would have to be a mechanism for citizens to remove such an imbedded leader in the case of civil rights abuse.

Interesting, thought provoking comments... thank you again!
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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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Strong is relative. I think Alex would be shocked and mortified by just how dictorially strong this central gov has become.
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Right.

Hamilton's idea of a strong central government is exemplified by his support for the Constitution. The government proposed in the Constitution alone was much stronger than what they had with the Articles of Confederation...

Think of it like this... back then people were afraid that the Constitution was over reaching.

What would they think now?
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Hamilton had personally witnessed the weaknesses of the Continental Army and realized that we wouldn't be able to stand as a nation without a stable economic platform to support it.
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A strong central government has been our undoing.
We now live under tyranny because of it.
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Hamilton was a Federalist who wanted a strong central government. How do you reconcile that?
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I had a hard time with that as well until I realized how weak the previous union was.

Regardless, the Federalists of then were the proponents of our current Constitution.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


The "strong" central government of Hamilton's time would be considered libertarian by today's standards.
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Hamilton had personally witnessed the weaknesses of the Continental Army and realized that we wouldn't be able to stand as a nation without a stable economic platform to support it.
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A strong central government has been our undoing.
We now live under tyranny because of it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35068645


Correct... but the strong central government that Hamilton was a proponent of was the government described in the Constitution.

Do you feel that the Constitution describes an over reaching government?

If so that is another excellent topic for discussion.

Was the Constitution of the United States of America the framework that enabled the federal government to become as large and oppressive as it is today?

Maybe it was by design?

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Hamilton was one of the greatest Americans to ever live. You can thank him for your comfy lifestyle.This is a disgrace them taking him off the ten. you make some good points op...
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Aaron Burr = American Hero


Alexander Hamilton was a freaking tyrant imposing taxes, supporting government power over individual rights, and Central Banks.
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Hamilton had personally witnessed the weaknesses of the Continental Army and realized that we wouldn't be able to stand as a nation without a stable economic platform to support it.
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A strong central government has been our undoing.
We now live under tyranny because of it.

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The United States of America doesn't live under tyranny. It lives under the growing spectre of tyranny. There is a difference. There are incidents of oppression and attacks on liberty, but we still have them.

The biggest threat to our freedom is apathy and the inherent weakness of the modern American character!

"My kids ain't learnt nutin' at the public skewl!" Then put down the remote, take away Johnny's xbox controller, turn of the NFL, NBA, UFC, whatever and crack a fucking book!

"Them Mexicans took mah jib!" Then learn a new trade!

"My Jamal he didun doo nuffin. He gots no oppotunaity!" Yeah, because daddy was never around and you can't get your fucking lips off the crack pipe!

" We are Mexican-America! We will preserve our culture." Fine, then have a parade once a year like the Wops and the Micks and learn fucking English.

You want to see tyranny. Go to Iran, Jordan, Venezuela, or Cambodia. You have no fucking clue what real tyranny looks like.

What the NSA is looking at your porn and Ashley Madison profile? Boo fucking Hoo!

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They will not stop until our constitution is erased. We need to protest yesterday.
In other news...impeach maxipad waters, dying fartstain, adam shitt, odoriferous kotex, sitting bullshit, and all other commies.
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Hamilton was one of the greatest Americans to ever live. You can thank him for your comfy lifestyle.This is a disgrace them taking him off the ten. you make some good points op...
 Quoting: King Triad


Aaron Burr = American Hero


Alexander Hamilton was a freaking tyrant imposing taxes, supporting government power over individual rights, and Central Banks.
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Both of these comments are very different but also, to an extent, very much true.

We can thank Hamilton for our comfy lifestyle, without his contributions to funding the Continental Army we may have not lasted another decade as a nation.

He did however envision and help to create the central bank, modeling it after the very nation's that the people here fought for freedom.

What is the balance here?

Could our United States have survived without a well funded army?
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Hamilton had personally witnessed the weaknesses of the Continental Army and realized that we wouldn't be able to stand as a nation without a stable economic platform to support it.
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


A strong central government has been our undoing.
We now live under tyranny because of it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35068645


The United States of America doesn't live under tyranny. It lives under the growing spectre of tyranny. There is a difference. There are incidents of oppression and attacks on liberty, but we still have them.

The biggest threat to our freedom is apathy and the inherent weakness of the modern American character!

"My kids ain't learnt nutin' at the public skewl!" Then put down the remote, take away Johnny's xbox controller, turn of the NFL, NBA, UFC, whatever and crack a fucking book!

"Them Mexicans took mah jib!" Then learn a new trade!

"My Jamal he didun doo nuffin. He gots no oppotunaity!" Yeah, because daddy was never around and you can't get your fucking lips off the crack pipe!

" We are Mexican-America! We will preserve our culture." Fine, then have a parade once a year like the Wops and the Micks and learn fucking English.

You want to see tyranny. Go to Iran, Jordan, Venezuela, or Cambodia. You have no fucking clue what real tyranny looks like.

What the NSA is looking at your porn and Ashley Madison profile? Boo fucking Hoo!


 Quoting: Rocket The Raccoon


Agreed. We still have time, but ultimately we will prove to be our own undoing through our lack of action.
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Hamilton was one of the greatest Americans to ever live. You can thank him for your comfy lifestyle.This is a disgrace them taking him off the ten. you make some good points op...
 Quoting: King Triad


Aaron Burr = American Hero


Alexander Hamilton was a freaking tyrant imposing taxes, supporting government power over individual rights, and Central Banks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55964108


Both of these comments are very different but also, to an extent, very much true.

We can thank Hamilton for our comfy lifestyle, without his contributions to funding the Continental Army we may have not lasted another decade as a nation.

He did however envision and help to create the central bank, modeling it after the very nation's that the people here fought for freedom.

What is the balance here?

Could our United States have survived without a well funded army?
 Quoting: Seventh from Adam


No the USA never would have lasted without their army...freedom isn't free...
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The message? Idiot liberals who have nothing more constructive to do such as something useful like eliminating the dollar bill and the lincoln cent are the ones in charge.

Changes that need to be made are ignored, idiot bleeding heart crap like this gets attention.

Meanwhile I continue to throw pennies and nickels on the ground because they simply have no value. Round everything to the nearest quarter if you want to do something useful.
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Total Rothschild agent.

Fuck Alex he was no Lincoln.
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It appears Lincoln was no good either.

Jefferson was a great statesman and saw the writing on the wall with Hamilton.
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Aaron Burr = American Hero


Alexander Hamilton was a freaking tyrant imposing taxes, supporting government power over individual rights, and Central Banks.
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Wasn't Aaron Burr wrapped up in some conspiracy to claim the Louisiana Purchase land for himself and help England regain control of the south in exchange for guns and supplies to further his agenda?

I think Aaron Burr was trying to create his own nation in the mid west.

Does anyone know anymore about this? I'm on my way to work and MA State Police frown upon searching the web while driving.

Definitely some interesting conversation here this morning, I thank you all for that!
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Also.....this seems preplanned due to the fact these bills haven't been produced in several years
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Alexander Hamilton was a freemason, a sodomite and a Royalist. He wanted a king for your Country.


He was a traitor to your country and an agent of the Rothschilds, who was responsible for the "First Bank of the United States" a Rothschild controlled Federal reserve of it's day.

Maybe he is being pulled off because his plans for the U.S. are finally beginning to fail the elite.