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I think you need to look up the word "logic."

None of what you have written is based anything other than your own feelings.

That's not logical. And you're making some very large sweeping generalizations about what is and what isn't.

Do some research, talk to some experts in the field, interview some abductees or psychological case studies or do a cross section. Then come back and we'll talk.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Your attempt to establish a superior position has failed. Maybe if you pounded your chest and raised your neck ruffles..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65055167


Maybe if you addressed a single substantive point Kai raises you'd be in a better position to inspire people with your insights.

fu11

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ps: your replies get my neck ruffles erect.

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Sounds like you're talking about sleep paralysis. Unrelated psychochenical phenomenon occurring during REM when the experiencer wakes up but the body remains paralyzed. I'm talking about legitimate abduction experiences. Some involving multiple people who witnessed the event.

Also, technically a female witch would be visited by an incubus, not a succubus.

But you're the expert on demons and satan and all that.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


There's only one succubus/incubus, and he's a little gender confused. But the sex of the devil is irrelevant at this point. And it's not like he can breed.

It's difficult to claim expertise on anything "extra-dimensional."

Considering the fact that we are not biologically compatible, I would expect a person who was physically abducted by our neighbors to die of cancer within a few years.

From a logical standpoint, what sort of knowledge would aliens gain from abducting multiple persons that they could not gain by abducting one person? We are not exactly complicated creatures and probably not as interesting or mysterious as you think we are. Since our neighbors know we are irrationally emotional and given to violent animalistic rages.. Why would a large-minded entirely logical race of beings want to associate with dangerously unpredictable creatures such as ourselves?

I find the claim that hundreds of people are being abducted, probed, implanted etc. to be beyond ridiculous. If the aliens felt the need to study us surely they could have done that hundreds of years ago. Now that they've seen us blowing ourselves up with nuclear weapons I would assume that any advanced logical race would avoid us as much as possible as there is nothing valuable to be gained by association with us.

This is a logical analysis and as your claims are not logical and I know our neighbors are mentally advanced and entirely logical I know my analysis is much more likely to be a relatively accurate representation of the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65031901


I think you need to look up the word "logic."

None of what you have written is based anything other than your own feelings.

That's not logical. And you're making some very large sweeping generalizations about what is and what isn't.

Do some research, talk to some experts in the field, interview some abductees or psychological case studies or do a cross section. Then come back and we'll talk.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Your attempt to establish a superior position has failed. Maybe if you pounded your chest and raised your neck ruffles..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65055167


Descending into simple insults now, are we?

I think we're done here. If you want to bring something that can be supported by factual evidence to the table then please do so.

Until then be well.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65031901


I think you need to look up the word "logic."

None of what you have written is based anything other than your own feelings.

That's not logical. And you're making some very large sweeping generalizations about what is and what isn't.

Do some research, talk to some experts in the field, interview some abductees or psychological case studies or do a cross section. Then come back and we'll talk.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Your attempt to establish a superior position has failed. Maybe if you pounded your chest and raised your neck ruffles..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65055167


Maybe if you addressed a single substantive point Kai raises you'd be in a better position to inspire people with your insights.

:fu11:

aHEMagain

ps: your replies get my neck ruffles erect.
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


Of course my replies bother you. A clearer picture always bothers the closedminded religionist. A person who seeks truth would be willing to consider a new model, rather than desperately cling to crude and faulty childish scribbles.
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FFS, crop circles have been debunked for 15 years. You can easily find out how to make your own on screwtube.

CS tards are even sadder and stupider than nibiru tards.
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excellent - we have a shill . crop circles must be real !
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There's only one succubus/incubus, and he's a little gender confused. But the sex of the devil is irrelevant at this point. And it's not like he can breed.

It's difficult to claim expertise on anything "extra-dimensional."

Considering the fact that we are not biologically compatible, I would expect a person who was physically abducted by our neighbors to die of cancer within a few years.

From a logical standpoint, what sort of knowledge would aliens gain from abducting multiple persons that they could not gain by abducting one person? We are not exactly complicated creatures and probably not as interesting or mysterious as you think we are. Since our neighbors know we are irrationally emotional and given to violent animalistic rages.. Why would a large-minded entirely logical race of beings want to associate with dangerously unpredictable creatures such as ourselves?

I find the claim that hundreds of people are being abducted, probed, implanted etc. to be beyond ridiculous. If the aliens felt the need to study us surely they could have done that hundreds of years ago. Now that they've seen us blowing ourselves up with nuclear weapons I would assume that any advanced logical race would avoid us as much as possible as there is nothing valuable to be gained by association with us.

This is a logical analysis and as your claims are not logical and I know our neighbors are mentally advanced and entirely logical I know my analysis is much more likely to be a relatively accurate representation of the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65031901


I think you need to look up the word "logic."

None of what you have written is based anything other than your own feelings.

That's not logical. And you're making some very large sweeping generalizations about what is and what isn't.

Do some research, talk to some experts in the field, interview some abductees or psychological case studies or do a cross section. Then come back and we'll talk.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Your attempt to establish a superior position has failed. Maybe if you pounded your chest and raised your neck ruffles..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65055167


Descending into simple insults now, are we?

I think we're done here. If you want to bring something that can be supported by factual evidence to the table then please do so.

Until then be well.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


The fact that you believe either one of us can bring anything to the table supported by "factual evidence" is highly amusing. And after bringing up "numerous testimonies" as some sort of evidence.. As if the damaged memories of dishonest, weakminded humans had suddenly become scientifically measurable. When you figure out how to measure the fourth dimension in a scientific lab let me know In the meantime unlike you I won't pretend to some superior ability to prove my position.

The best that can be done when trying to solve such a puzzle is to build a clearer picture that makes sense logically. Your claim that advanced aliens with saucer craft are abducting numerous humans to study them in strange and uncomfortable ways while probing and implanting them is certainly not backed up by any scientific evidence. So the best we can do is ask questions.

Why would an advanced alien race with advanced alien technology abduct numerous humans? If they were curious about our physical makeup why would this require so many abductions, instead of just a couple? This is egotistical genocentric position, to believe our race is so utterly fascinating that other aliens across the galaxy would travel here just to study our fabulously wonderful physical form. If neighboring aliens (who are more advanced clearly than us due to constant flitting about in advanced spacecraft) wanted to study us why would they only get around to it in modern times rather than getting it out of their system hundreds or thousands of years ago?

We can make an attempt to consider the possible alien perspective. If I was an alien I might come to Earth once or twice out of curiosity, but for repeated trips the planet would have to have some resource I wanted that was easier to get from that planet rather than another, especially considering the hostile and irrational natives. Fine, let's consider the stories of secret alien mining. That could certainly be accomplished without interacting with the natives, if I was an advanced alien I could take all the minerals I wanted right from under the noses of the local savages. I certainly wouldn't go tramping about the countryside implanting and probing the locals, since my goal is to acquire a resource not get blown out of the sky by crazed berzerkers wielding nuclear missiles.

However, I still find it more probable, especially as we are warlike in nature and equipped with uncomfortably advanced weaponry, that such an advanced race would avoid our planet and go mine asteroids or some other planetary body. This may not have been the case in antiquity when we were less dangerous as a species but it would certainly would be more likely now.

Bottom line, whenever you are trying to find the truth on any subject you must sift through piles of misinformation and bullshit to build any sort of logical picture. No subject should treated as religion, accepting nonsense as fact. We cannot be afraid to be wrong or we will not improve our vision of reality.
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I think you need to look up the word "logic."

None of what you have written is based anything other than your own feelings.

That's not logical. And you're making some very large sweeping generalizations about what is and what isn't.

Do some research, talk to some experts in the field, interview some abductees or psychological case studies or do a cross section. Then come back and we'll talk.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Your attempt to establish a superior position has failed. Maybe if you pounded your chest and raised your neck ruffles..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65055167


Descending into simple insults now, are we?

I think we're done here. If you want to bring something that can be supported by factual evidence to the table then please do so.

Until then be well.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


The fact that you believe either one of us can bring anything to the table supported by "factual evidence" is highly amusing. And after bringing up "numerous testimonies" as some sort of evidence.. As if the damaged memories of dishonest, weakminded humans had suddenly become scientifically measurable. When you figure out how to measure the fourth dimension in a scientific lab let me know In the meantime unlike you I won't pretend to some superior ability to prove my position.

The best that can be done when trying to solve such a puzzle is to build a clearer picture that makes sense logically. Your claim that advanced aliens with saucer craft are abducting numerous humans to study them in strange and uncomfortable ways while probing and implanting them is certainly not backed up by any scientific evidence. So the best we can do is ask questions.

Why would an advanced alien race with advanced alien technology abduct numerous humans? If they were curious about our physical makeup why would this require so many abductions, instead of just a couple? This is egotistical genocentric position, to believe our race is so utterly fascinating that other aliens across the galaxy would travel here just to study our fabulously wonderful physical form. If neighboring aliens (who are more advanced clearly than us due to constant flitting about in advanced spacecraft) wanted to study us why would they only get around to it in modern times rather than getting it out of their system hundreds or thousands of years ago?

We can make an attempt to consider the possible alien perspective. If I was an alien I might come to Earth once or twice out of curiosity, but for repeated trips the planet would have to have some resource I wanted that was easier to get from that planet rather than another, especially considering the hostile and irrational natives. Fine, let's consider the stories of secret alien mining. That could certainly be accomplished without interacting with the natives, if I was an advanced alien I could take all the minerals I wanted right from under the noses of the local savages. I certainly wouldn't go tramping about the countryside implanting and probing the locals, since my goal is to acquire a resource not get blown out of the sky by crazed berzerkers wielding nuclear missiles.

However, I still find it more probable, especially as we are warlike in nature and equipped with uncomfortably advanced weaponry, that such an advanced race would avoid our planet and go mine asteroids or some other planetary body. This may not have been the case in antiquity when we were less dangerous as a species but it would certainly would be more likely now.

Bottom line, whenever you are trying to find the truth on any subject you must sift through piles of misinformation and bullshit to build any sort of logical picture. No subject should treated as religion, accepting nonsense as fact. We cannot be afraid to be wrong or we will not improve our vision of reality.
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Did you really just call someone's thinking "religious?"

Aren't you the one who keeps bringing up the devil?
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There is absolutely no credible evidence to support this.
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Is that some kind of alien intergalactic version of "I can neither confirm nor deny..."?
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


In the field of UFOs and their relationship to national security there are facts, there are probabilities, and there is hearsay. Some of that hearsay is legitimate but cannot be confirmed. Some of it (a much larger portion) is deliberately disseminated disinformation.

ATIC and AFOSI have been in that game since the beginning...since right after Roswell. The CIA and NSA were quick to follow. Stories they leaked to protect secrets or to throw would be researchers off track have snowballed due mostly to third rate conspiracy theorists' willingness to take the bait. Which is exactly what they wanted.

Convince a legitimate researcher that something is going on and they will convince others. In 10 years of telephone you can go from "reptilians" to a satanic agenda involving every creature you can imagine.

And the real secret (which may be as simple as, "we found a craft with some bodies...we have no idea who they are or where they're from") is buried under a mountain of shit which ensures that anyone attempting to penetrate it will get lumped into the lunatic fringe.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


You should not confuse our grey-skinned neighbors with the devil, who is the Grey. The government probably has foreign saucer-like craft in its possession as well as bodies.

Our neighbors are blamed for much that they don't do: especially "abductions" which are nightmares - mental attacks by the devil on the poorly protected. They remember a grey-skinned face and over-sized eyes, but this is a mental body not to be confused with our physical neighbors who are also grey-"skinned" with large eyes.

But it is the purpose of the Enemy to confuse and stir up suspicion among Brothers.
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Would you please give some hints as to where you think our neighbors are. I am convinced that they are NB as described in 49:2.14 (561.13). Do you agree?

I always look forward to your posts.
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Maybe if you addressed a single substantive point Kai raises you'd be in a better position to inspire people with your insights.

fu11

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ps: your replies get my neck ruffles erect.
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


Of course my replies bother you. A clearer picture always bothers the closedminded religionist. A person who seeks truth would be willing to consider a new model, rather than desperately cling to crude and faulty childish scribbles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64430266

Closedminded religionist?

22bahaha22

In no way am I a religionist. I don't even practice the religion of sciencism.

I'll have to re-read the thread to see what new model I'm being accused of not considering, but I'm pretty sure I'm not desperately clinging to ANY scribbles.

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Maybe if you addressed a single substantive point Kai raises you'd be in a better position to inspire people with your insights.

fu11

aHEMagain

ps: your replies get my neck ruffles erect.
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


Of course my replies bother you. A clearer picture always bothers the closedminded religionist. A person who seeks truth would be willing to consider a new model, rather than desperately cling to crude and faulty childish scribbles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64430266

Closedminded religionist?

22bahaha22

In no way am I a religionist. I don't even practice the religion of sciencism.

I'll have to re-read the thread to see what new model I'm being accused of not considering, but I'm pretty sure I'm not desperately clinging to ANY scribbles.

aHEMagain
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I'm pretty sure it's the religipocrisy kicking in.

He was on about the devil before.
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Your attempt to establish a superior position has failed. Maybe if you pounded your chest and raised your neck ruffles..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65055167


Descending into simple insults now, are we?

I think we're done here. If you want to bring something that can be supported by factual evidence to the table then please do so.

Until then be well.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


The fact that you believe either one of us can bring anything to the table supported by "factual evidence" is highly amusing. And after bringing up "numerous testimonies" as some sort of evidence.. As if the damaged memories of dishonest, weakminded humans had suddenly become scientifically measurable. When you figure out how to measure the fourth dimension in a scientific lab let me know In the meantime unlike you I won't pretend to some superior ability to prove my position.

The best that can be done when trying to solve such a puzzle is to build a clearer picture that makes sense logically. Your claim that advanced aliens with saucer craft are abducting numerous humans to study them in strange and uncomfortable ways while probing and implanting them is certainly not backed up by any scientific evidence. So the best we can do is ask questions.

Why would an advanced alien race with advanced alien technology abduct numerous humans? If they were curious about our physical makeup why would this require so many abductions, instead of just a couple? This is egotistical genocentric position, to believe our race is so utterly fascinating that other aliens across the galaxy would travel here just to study our fabulously wonderful physical form. If neighboring aliens (who are more advanced clearly than us due to constant flitting about in advanced spacecraft) wanted to study us why would they only get around to it in modern times rather than getting it out of their system hundreds or thousands of years ago?

We can make an attempt to consider the possible alien perspective. If I was an alien I might come to Earth once or twice out of curiosity, but for repeated trips the planet would have to have some resource I wanted that was easier to get from that planet rather than another, especially considering the hostile and irrational natives. Fine, let's consider the stories of secret alien mining. That could certainly be accomplished without interacting with the natives, if I was an advanced alien I could take all the minerals I wanted right from under the noses of the local savages. I certainly wouldn't go tramping about the countryside implanting and probing the locals, since my goal is to acquire a resource not get blown out of the sky by crazed berzerkers wielding nuclear missiles.

However, I still find it more probable, especially as we are warlike in nature and equipped with uncomfortably advanced weaponry, that such an advanced race would avoid our planet and go mine asteroids or some other planetary body. This may not have been the case in antiquity when we were less dangerous as a species but it would certainly would be more likely now.

Bottom line, whenever you are trying to find the truth on any subject you must sift through piles of misinformation and bullshit to build any sort of logical picture. No subject should treated as religion, accepting nonsense as fact. We cannot be afraid to be wrong or we will not improve our vision of reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64430266


Did you really just call someone's thinking "religious?"

Aren't you the one who keeps bringing up the devil?
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


The fact that a creature or person is mentioned by a religion is no evidence of his nonexistence. You don't have to be a Buddhist to think Buddha exists, or a Muslim to think Mohammed exists, or a Christian to think Jesus exists. Whether you call the devil the devil or ad-Dajjal, Hades, Caligastia or any other name known to men is irrelevant as long as meaning is understood by the audience.

Please. If we are going to have a conversation let us try to have a logical one. Even if I was a fanatical religious cultist that accusation would not logically address my previous questions.
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Is that some kind of alien intergalactic version of "I can neither confirm nor deny..."?
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


In the field of UFOs and their relationship to national security there are facts, there are probabilities, and there is hearsay. Some of that hearsay is legitimate but cannot be confirmed. Some of it (a much larger portion) is deliberately disseminated disinformation.

ATIC and AFOSI have been in that game since the beginning...since right after Roswell. The CIA and NSA were quick to follow. Stories they leaked to protect secrets or to throw would be researchers off track have snowballed due mostly to third rate conspiracy theorists' willingness to take the bait. Which is exactly what they wanted.

Convince a legitimate researcher that something is going on and they will convince others. In 10 years of telephone you can go from "reptilians" to a satanic agenda involving every creature you can imagine.

And the real secret (which may be as simple as, "we found a craft with some bodies...we have no idea who they are or where they're from") is buried under a mountain of shit which ensures that anyone attempting to penetrate it will get lumped into the lunatic fringe.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


You should not confuse our grey-skinned neighbors with the devil, who is the Grey. The government probably has foreign saucer-like craft in its possession as well as bodies.

Our neighbors are blamed for much that they don't do: especially "abductions" which are nightmares - mental attacks by the devil on the poorly protected. They remember a grey-skinned face and over-sized eyes, but this is a mental body not to be confused with our physical neighbors who are also grey-"skinned" with large eyes.

But it is the purpose of the Enemy to confuse and stir up suspicion among Brothers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65031901


Would you please give some hints as to where you think our neighbors are. I am convinced that they are NB as described in 49:2.14 (561.13). Do you agree?

I always look forward to your posts.
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The current picture I have formed of our neighbors is a silicone-based nonbreathing lifeform whose life energy cycle is based on a radioactive reaction between silicone and arsenic rather than our combustion cycle based on oxygen and carbon. I also presume they prefer a somewhat lower gravity, darker surroundings and/or underground locations. I predict larger skulls compared to body size than us, oversized dark eyes, probably no real nose, grey "skin" that would much tougher than ours as they are silicone-based. One possibility for a reproduction cycle that seems feasible would be an external seeded crystal formation. Their communication would probably verge on what we consider telepathic considering a lack of soundwaves, although some sort of energy wave vibration outside of visible light would probably do.

I have determined a probable location but don't want to post my supposition. I believe part of the American government suspects their location as well.
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Descending into simple insults now, are we?

I think we're done here. If you want to bring something that can be supported by factual evidence to the table then please do so.

Until then be well.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


The fact that you believe either one of us can bring anything to the table supported by "factual evidence" is highly amusing. And after bringing up "numerous testimonies" as some sort of evidence.. As if the damaged memories of dishonest, weakminded humans had suddenly become scientifically measurable. When you figure out how to measure the fourth dimension in a scientific lab let me know In the meantime unlike you I won't pretend to some superior ability to prove my position.

The best that can be done when trying to solve such a puzzle is to build a clearer picture that makes sense logically. Your claim that advanced aliens with saucer craft are abducting numerous humans to study them in strange and uncomfortable ways while probing and implanting them is certainly not backed up by any scientific evidence. So the best we can do is ask questions.

Why would an advanced alien race with advanced alien technology abduct numerous humans? If they were curious about our physical makeup why would this require so many abductions, instead of just a couple? This is egotistical genocentric position, to believe our race is so utterly fascinating that other aliens across the galaxy would travel here just to study our fabulously wonderful physical form. If neighboring aliens (who are more advanced clearly than us due to constant flitting about in advanced spacecraft) wanted to study us why would they only get around to it in modern times rather than getting it out of their system hundreds or thousands of years ago?

We can make an attempt to consider the possible alien perspective. If I was an alien I might come to Earth once or twice out of curiosity, but for repeated trips the planet would have to have some resource I wanted that was easier to get from that planet rather than another, especially considering the hostile and irrational natives. Fine, let's consider the stories of secret alien mining. That could certainly be accomplished without interacting with the natives, if I was an advanced alien I could take all the minerals I wanted right from under the noses of the local savages. I certainly wouldn't go tramping about the countryside implanting and probing the locals, since my goal is to acquire a resource not get blown out of the sky by crazed berzerkers wielding nuclear missiles.

However, I still find it more probable, especially as we are warlike in nature and equipped with uncomfortably advanced weaponry, that such an advanced race would avoid our planet and go mine asteroids or some other planetary body. This may not have been the case in antiquity when we were less dangerous as a species but it would certainly would be more likely now.

Bottom line, whenever you are trying to find the truth on any subject you must sift through piles of misinformation and bullshit to build any sort of logical picture. No subject should treated as religion, accepting nonsense as fact. We cannot be afraid to be wrong or we will not improve our vision of reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64430266


Did you really just call someone's thinking "religious?"

Aren't you the one who keeps bringing up the devil?
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


The fact that a creature or person is mentioned by a religion is no evidence of his nonexistence. You don't have to be a Buddhist to think Buddha exists, or a Muslim to think Mohammed exists, or a Christian to think Jesus exists. Whether you call the devil the devil or ad-Dajjal, Hades, Caligastia or any other name known to men is irrelevant as long as meaning is understood by the audience.

Please. If we are going to have a conversation let us try to have a logical one. Even if I was a fanatical religious cultist that accusation would not logically address my previous questions.
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1. Buddhism is not a religion. We know Siddhartha Guatama existed because of historical documents baring his name.

2. Mohammed as he is portrayed in the Quran probably did not exist. Again through historical documents we can see that his story is most likely a gestalt of other historical figures. The story sounded more messianic when describing one person so there you have it.

3. Jesus Christ most likely existed although he was called "Yeshuah." This is likely another instance in which multiple historical figures were combined to tell a better story.

No, you don't have to subscribe to a religion to believe the likelihood that these figures existed. Buying into the mythology surrounding them is quite different.

The devil is something else altogether. A culmination of literally thousands of years of mythological and polytheistic gods and demigods reimagined and recombined over and over to produce the archetypal "evil."

This is a whole different argument but I for one have never seen true evil in the world. Something which acts maliciously for absolutely no reason.
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The fact that you believe either one of us can bring anything to the table supported by "factual evidence" is highly amusing. And after bringing up "numerous testimonies" as some sort of evidence.. As if the damaged memories of dishonest, weakminded humans had suddenly become scientifically measurable. When you figure out how to measure the fourth dimension in a scientific lab let me know In the meantime unlike you I won't pretend to some superior ability to prove my position.

The best that can be done when trying to solve such a puzzle is to build a clearer picture that makes sense logically. Your claim that advanced aliens with saucer craft are abducting numerous humans to study them in strange and uncomfortable ways while probing and implanting them is certainly not backed up by any scientific evidence. So the best we can do is ask questions.

Why would an advanced alien race with advanced alien technology abduct numerous humans? If they were curious about our physical makeup why would this require so many abductions, instead of just a couple? This is egotistical genocentric position, to believe our race is so utterly fascinating that other aliens across the galaxy would travel here just to study our fabulously wonderful physical form. If neighboring aliens (who are more advanced clearly than us due to constant flitting about in advanced spacecraft) wanted to study us why would they only get around to it in modern times rather than getting it out of their system hundreds or thousands of years ago?

We can make an attempt to consider the possible alien perspective. If I was an alien I might come to Earth once or twice out of curiosity, but for repeated trips the planet would have to have some resource I wanted that was easier to get from that planet rather than another, especially considering the hostile and irrational natives. Fine, let's consider the stories of secret alien mining. That could certainly be accomplished without interacting with the natives, if I was an advanced alien I could take all the minerals I wanted right from under the noses of the local savages. I certainly wouldn't go tramping about the countryside implanting and probing the locals, since my goal is to acquire a resource not get blown out of the sky by crazed berzerkers wielding nuclear missiles.

However, I still find it more probable, especially as we are warlike in nature and equipped with uncomfortably advanced weaponry, that such an advanced race would avoid our planet and go mine asteroids or some other planetary body. This may not have been the case in antiquity when we were less dangerous as a species but it would certainly would be more likely now.

Bottom line, whenever you are trying to find the truth on any subject you must sift through piles of misinformation and bullshit to build any sort of logical picture. No subject should treated as religion, accepting nonsense as fact. We cannot be afraid to be wrong or we will not improve our vision of reality.
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Did you really just call someone's thinking "religious?"

Aren't you the one who keeps bringing up the devil?
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The fact that a creature or person is mentioned by a religion is no evidence of his nonexistence. You don't have to be a Buddhist to think Buddha exists, or a Muslim to think Mohammed exists, or a Christian to think Jesus exists. Whether you call the devil the devil or ad-Dajjal, Hades, Caligastia or any other name known to men is irrelevant as long as meaning is understood by the audience.

Please. If we are going to have a conversation let us try to have a logical one. Even if I was a fanatical religious cultist that accusation would not logically address my previous questions.
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1. Buddhism is not a religion. We know Siddhartha Guatama existed because of historical documents baring his name.

2. Mohammed as he is portrayed in the Quran probably did not exist. Again through historical documents we can see that his story is most likely a gestalt of other historical figures. The story sounded more messianic when describing one person so there you have it.

3. Jesus Christ most likely existed although he was called "Yeshuah." This is likely another instance in which multiple historical figures were combined to tell a better story.

No, you don't have to subscribe to a religion to believe the likelihood that these figures existed. Buying into the mythology surrounding them is quite different.

The devil is something else altogether. A culmination of literally thousands of years of mythological and polytheistic gods and demigods reimagined and recombined over and over to produce the archetypal "evil."

This is a whole different argument but I for one have never seen true evil in the world. Something which acts maliciously for absolutely no reason.
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Yes, the Dali Lama is a reincarnated scientific leader. Lol.

You are of course avoiding the questions I posted.

I am not surprised that you claim to have never seen true evil. Your attempt to define evil as "something which acts maliciously for absolutely no reason" is amusing. By that logic do you then claim that entities that act maliciously for a reason are not evil?

That would be an interesting claim if so.
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I would say that things which we perceive as "evil" are generally sick in the sense that they are attempting to fulfill a need in a way which is destructive to the external world, other beings, or themselves, or all three. I think it is likely that if they felt able to fulfill their need without affecting the external world they would do so. Why attract unwanted negative attention if it can be avoided? You talk about logic. This is a logical perspective. Yours is founded in base human emotions and a lack of understanding or empathy. Hence your certainty and view of "evil," a man made construct that allows us to define something deconstructive or harmful so we can hate and shun it rather than understanding where it comes from.

You talked about The Buddha before. Perhaps you should read about him, about what he thought about such things. His thoughts were much in line with my own on the above subject.

Also who said anything about the Dali Lama? Or reincarnation?

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I would say that things which we perceive as "evil" are generally sick in the sense that they are attempting to fulfill a need in a way which is destructive to the external world, other beings, or themselves, or all three. I think it is likely that if they felt able to fulfill their need without affecting the external world they would do so. Why attract unwanted negative attention if it can be avoided? You talk about logic. This is a logical perspective. Yours is founded in base human emotions and a lack of understanding or empathy. Hence your certainty and view of "evil," a man made construct that allows us to define something deconstructive or harmful so we can hate and shun it rather than understanding where it comes from.

You talked about The Buddha before. Perhaps you should read about him, about what he thought about such things. His thoughts were much in line with my own on the above subject.

Also who said anything about the Dali Lama? Or reincarnation?
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So child molesters are just trying to fulfill a need and my perception of them as evil is due to my lack of empathy and understanding. You are certainly a very amusing creature.

If you want to discuss mythology let's start with Nordic mythology. I find it interesting that the figure in the above mentioned crop formation, ad-Dajjal, and Oden are all depicted as having one eye or one eye damaged. Also, in old Nordic depictions of Oden they only show the left side of his face. Do you find that interesting as well?

Not that I pay much attention to the pile of bullshit that is Nordic mythology.
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I would say that things which we perceive as "evil" are generally sick in the sense that they are attempting to fulfill a need in a way which is destructive to the external world, other beings, or themselves, or all three. I think it is likely that if they felt able to fulfill their need without affecting the external world they would do so. Why attract unwanted negative attention if it can be avoided? You talk about logic. This is a logical perspective. Yours is founded in base human emotions and a lack of understanding or empathy. Hence your certainty and view of "evil," a man made construct that allows us to define something deconstructive or harmful so we can hate and shun it rather than understanding where it comes from.

You talked about The Buddha before. Perhaps you should read about him, about what he thought about such things. His thoughts were much in line with my own on the above subject.

Also who said anything about the Dali Lama? Or reincarnation?
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So child molesters are just trying to fulfill a need and my perception of them as evil is due to my lack of empathy and understanding. You are certainly a very amusing creature.

If you want to discuss mythology let's start with Nordic mythology. I find it interesting that the figure in the above mentioned crop formation, ad-Dajjal, and Oden are all depicted as having one eye or one eye damaged. Also, in old Nordic depictions of Oden they only show the left side of his face. Do you find that interesting as well?

Not that I pay much attention to the pile of bullshit that is Nordic mythology.
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I would say child molesters are sick. They are aberrations from the norm. But I think it's a safe bet that they do not WANT to be child molesters which is why most of them never do. It is a much more common psychological phenomenon than we are led to believe and rarely comes to fruition. So if these people know they are somehow sick or unwell then how is that "evil?"

Evil is something which does what it does for no reason other than to be evil. As I said, I've never seen something like that. Only sickness mislabeled as "evil."

As far as Norce mythology goes...it's interesting to me because it's so old. It dates back way farther than the remnants of other mythologies that we see today. I don't know too much about it but I do know it's rooted to a lot of other cultures. There are even ancient stone monuments in North America such as those found in the Hudson Valley in New York. There is some evidence of a correlation between these monuments and UFO sightings. The Hudson Valley flap sightings were all concentrated in clusters around these monuments. Very interesting.
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I would say that things which we perceive as "evil" are generally sick in the sense that they are attempting to fulfill a need in a way which is destructive to the external world, other beings, or themselves, or all three. I think it is likely that if they felt able to fulfill their need without affecting the external world they would do so. Why attract unwanted negative attention if it can be avoided? You talk about logic. This is a logical perspective. Yours is founded in base human emotions and a lack of understanding or empathy. Hence your certainty and view of "evil," a man made construct that allows us to define something deconstructive or harmful so we can hate and shun it rather than understanding where it comes from.

You talked about The Buddha before. Perhaps you should read about him, about what he thought about such things. His thoughts were much in line with my own on the above subject.

Also who said anything about the Dali Lama? Or reincarnation?
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So child molesters are just trying to fulfill a need and my perception of them as evil is due to my lack of empathy and understanding. You are certainly a very amusing creature.

If you want to discuss mythology let's start with Nordic mythology. I find it interesting that the figure in the above mentioned crop formation, ad-Dajjal, and Oden are all depicted as having one eye or one eye damaged. Also, in old Nordic depictions of Oden they only show the left side of his face. Do you find that interesting as well?

Not that I pay much attention to the pile of bullshit that is Nordic mythology.
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I would say child molesters are sick. They are aberrations from the norm. But I think it's a safe bet that they do not WANT to be child molesters which is why most of them never do. It is a much more common psychological phenomenon than we are led to believe and rarely comes to fruition. So if these people know they are somehow sick or unwell then how is that "evil?"

Evil is something which does what it does for no reason other than to be evil. As I said, I've never seen something like that. Only sickness mislabeled as "evil."

As far as Norce mythology goes...it's interesting to me because it's so old. It dates back way farther than the remnants of other mythologies that we see today. I don't know too much about it but I do know it's rooted to a lot of other cultures. There are even ancient stone monuments in North America such as those found in the Hudson Valley in New York. There is some evidence of a correlation between these monuments and UFO sightings. The Hudson Valley flap sightings were all concentrated in clusters around these monuments. Very interesting.
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There you go again with that amazing definition of evil as something which does what it does for no reason. Then you throw in a little sympathy for the poor sick child molesters who don't really want to be sick. More blathering about how evil doesn't really exist and it's just a matter of "perception."

People who think the world is some sort of pointless playground that exists for their amusement, without consequence to law, cannot accept the existence of God or the reality of absolute Good and absolute Truth because to do so would be to admit to themselves their own immorality and failure to progress as a Universe child.

Typical of the deluded, once again completely ignoring my point about the one-eyed correlation between those "three" figures while sidetracking to fantasies about the superiority of Norse mythology because it's so much older than other "mythologies."

You only see what you want to see, and any evidence that doesn't support the fantasy you have built in your mind you ignore.
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I would say that things which we perceive as "evil" are generally sick in the sense that they are attempting to fulfill a need in a way which is destructive to the external world, other beings, or themselves, or all three. I think it is likely that if they felt able to fulfill their need without affecting the external world they would do so. Why attract unwanted negative attention if it can be avoided? You talk about logic. This is a logical perspective. Yours is founded in base human emotions and a lack of understanding or empathy. Hence your certainty and view of "evil," a man made construct that allows us to define something deconstructive or harmful so we can hate and shun it rather than understanding where it comes from.

You talked about The Buddha before. Perhaps you should read about him, about what he thought about such things. His thoughts were much in line with my own on the above subject.

Also who said anything about the Dali Lama? Or reincarnation?
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


So child molesters are just trying to fulfill a need and my perception of them as evil is due to my lack of empathy and understanding. You are certainly a very amusing creature.

If you want to discuss mythology let's start with Nordic mythology. I find it interesting that the figure in the above mentioned crop formation, ad-Dajjal, and Oden are all depicted as having one eye or one eye damaged. Also, in old Nordic depictions of Oden they only show the left side of his face. Do you find that interesting as well?

Not that I pay much attention to the pile of bullshit that is Nordic mythology.
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I would say child molesters are sick. They are aberrations from the norm. But I think it's a safe bet that they do not WANT to be child molesters which is why most of them never do. It is a much more common psychological phenomenon than we are led to believe and rarely comes to fruition. So if these people know they are somehow sick or unwell then how is that "evil?"

Evil is something which does what it does for no reason other than to be evil. As I said, I've never seen something like that. Only sickness mislabeled as "evil."

As far as Norce mythology goes...it's interesting to me because it's so old. It dates back way farther than the remnants of other mythologies that we see today. I don't know too much about it but I do know it's rooted to a lot of other cultures. There are even ancient stone monuments in North America such as those found in the Hudson Valley in New York. There is some evidence of a correlation between these monuments and UFO sightings. The Hudson Valley flap sightings were all concentrated in clusters around these monuments. Very interesting.
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There you go again with that amazing definition of evil as something which does what it does for no reason. Then you throw in a little sympathy for the poor sick child molesters who don't really want to be sick. More blathering about how evil doesn't really exist and it's just a matter of "perception."

People who think the world is some sort of pointless playground that exists for their amusement, without consequence to law, cannot accept the existence of God or the reality of absolute Good and absolute Truth because to do so would be to admit to themselves their own immorality and failure to progress as a Universe child.

Typical of the deluded, once again completely ignoring my point about the one-eyed correlation between those "three" figures while sidetracking to fantasies about the superiority of Norse mythology because it's so much older than other "mythologies."

You only see what you want to see, and any evidence that doesn't support the fantasy you have built in your mind you ignore.
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It's incredible that you can attain such a level of hypocrisy with no awareness of it.

You, my friend, are the one who sees what you want to see.

Because it makes it easier for you. Things make more sense. It's safer in a world of good and evil, of black and white, right and wrong. You don't have to think for yourself that way. Your God will tell you what it all means.

I get it. But we don't all live there with you. You're going to have to accept that.
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So child molesters are just trying to fulfill a need and my perception of them as evil is due to my lack of empathy and understanding. You are certainly a very amusing creature.

If you want to discuss mythology let's start with Nordic mythology. I find it interesting that the figure in the above mentioned crop formation, ad-Dajjal, and Oden are all depicted as having one eye or one eye damaged. Also, in old Nordic depictions of Oden they only show the left side of his face. Do you find that interesting as well?

Not that I pay much attention to the pile of bullshit that is Nordic mythology.
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I would say child molesters are sick. They are aberrations from the norm. But I think it's a safe bet that they do not WANT to be child molesters which is why most of them never do. It is a much more common psychological phenomenon than we are led to believe and rarely comes to fruition. So if these people know they are somehow sick or unwell then how is that "evil?"

Evil is something which does what it does for no reason other than to be evil. As I said, I've never seen something like that. Only sickness mislabeled as "evil."

As far as Norce mythology goes...it's interesting to me because it's so old. It dates back way farther than the remnants of other mythologies that we see today. I don't know too much about it but I do know it's rooted to a lot of other cultures. There are even ancient stone monuments in North America such as those found in the Hudson Valley in New York. There is some evidence of a correlation between these monuments and UFO sightings. The Hudson Valley flap sightings were all concentrated in clusters around these monuments. Very interesting.
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There you go again with that amazing definition of evil as something which does what it does for no reason. Then you throw in a little sympathy for the poor sick child molesters who don't really want to be sick. More blathering about how evil doesn't really exist and it's just a matter of "perception."

People who think the world is some sort of pointless playground that exists for their amusement, without consequence to law, cannot accept the existence of God or the reality of absolute Good and absolute Truth because to do so would be to admit to themselves their own immorality and failure to progress as a Universe child.

Typical of the deluded, once again completely ignoring my point about the one-eyed correlation between those "three" figures while sidetracking to fantasies about the superiority of Norse mythology because it's so much older than other "mythologies."

You only see what you want to see, and any evidence that doesn't support the fantasy you have built in your mind you ignore.
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It's incredible that you can attain such a level of hypocrisy with no awareness of it.

You, my friend, are the one who sees what you want to see.

Because it makes it easier for you. Things make more sense. It's safer in a world of good and evil, of black and white, right and wrong. You don't have to think for yourself that way. Your God will tell you what it all means.

I get it. But we don't all live there with you. You're going to have to accept that.
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Lol. And what would we learn if God just gave us all the answers? Did you learn anything in school when the answers were given to you? Would we progress and grow if we never had to think for ourselves?

In a world of good and evil we must figure out for ourselves what is good and what is evil. It's the lazy kids who throw in the towel and decide "anything goes" who are failing the School of Life.
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I would say child molesters are sick. They are aberrations from the norm. But I think it's a safe bet that they do not WANT to be child molesters which is why most of them never do. It is a much more common psychological phenomenon than we are led to believe and rarely comes to fruition. So if these people know they are somehow sick or unwell then how is that "evil?"

Evil is something which does what it does for no reason other than to be evil. As I said, I've never seen something like that. Only sickness mislabeled as "evil."

As far as Norce mythology goes...it's interesting to me because it's so old. It dates back way farther than the remnants of other mythologies that we see today. I don't know too much about it but I do know it's rooted to a lot of other cultures. There are even ancient stone monuments in North America such as those found in the Hudson Valley in New York. There is some evidence of a correlation between these monuments and UFO sightings. The Hudson Valley flap sightings were all concentrated in clusters around these monuments. Very interesting.
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There you go again with that amazing definition of evil as something which does what it does for no reason. Then you throw in a little sympathy for the poor sick child molesters who don't really want to be sick. More blathering about how evil doesn't really exist and it's just a matter of "perception."

People who think the world is some sort of pointless playground that exists for their amusement, without consequence to law, cannot accept the existence of God or the reality of absolute Good and absolute Truth because to do so would be to admit to themselves their own immorality and failure to progress as a Universe child.

Typical of the deluded, once again completely ignoring my point about the one-eyed correlation between those "three" figures while sidetracking to fantasies about the superiority of Norse mythology because it's so much older than other "mythologies."

You only see what you want to see, and any evidence that doesn't support the fantasy you have built in your mind you ignore.
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It's incredible that you can attain such a level of hypocrisy with no awareness of it.

You, my friend, are the one who sees what you want to see.

Because it makes it easier for you. Things make more sense. It's safer in a world of good and evil, of black and white, right and wrong. You don't have to think for yourself that way. Your God will tell you what it all means.

I get it. But we don't all live there with you. You're going to have to accept that.
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Lol. And what would we learn if God just gave us all the answers? Did you learn anything in school when the answers were given to you? Would we progress and grow if we never had to think for ourselves?

In a world of good and evil we must figure out for ourselves what is good and what is evil. It's the lazy kids who throw in the towel and decide "anything goes" who are failing the School of Life.
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You just completely ignored my response.

I'm sorry but I see no reason to converse with you if you aren't even capable of reading my words and responding to them in turn.

Also I'd work on your comprehension skills in general. You seem to think you know what things mean without really understanding them at all. That's likely to frustrate people.

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There you go again with that amazing definition of evil as something which does what it does for no reason. Then you throw in a little sympathy for the poor sick child molesters who don't really want to be sick. More blathering about how evil doesn't really exist and it's just a matter of "perception."

People who think the world is some sort of pointless playground that exists for their amusement, without consequence to law, cannot accept the existence of God or the reality of absolute Good and absolute Truth because to do so would be to admit to themselves their own immorality and failure to progress as a Universe child.

Typical of the deluded, once again completely ignoring my point about the one-eyed correlation between those "three" figures while sidetracking to fantasies about the superiority of Norse mythology because it's so much older than other "mythologies."

You only see what you want to see, and any evidence that doesn't support the fantasy you have built in your mind you ignore.
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It's incredible that you can attain such a level of hypocrisy with no awareness of it.

You, my friend, are the one who sees what you want to see.

Because it makes it easier for you. Things make more sense. It's safer in a world of good and evil, of black and white, right and wrong. You don't have to think for yourself that way. Your God will tell you what it all means.

I get it. But we don't all live there with you. You're going to have to accept that.
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Lol. And what would we learn if God just gave us all the answers? Did you learn anything in school when the answers were given to you? Would we progress and grow if we never had to think for ourselves?

In a world of good and evil we must figure out for ourselves what is good and what is evil. It's the lazy kids who throw in the towel and decide "anything goes" who are failing the School of Life.
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You just completely ignored my response.

I'm sorry but I see no reason to converse with you if you aren't even capable of reading my words and responding to them in turn.
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Ignore: I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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It's incredible that you can attain such a level of hypocrisy with no awareness of it.

You, my friend, are the one who sees what you want to see.

Because it makes it easier for you. Things make more sense. It's safer in a world of good and evil, of black and white, right and wrong. You don't have to think for yourself that way. Your God will tell you what it all means.

I get it. But we don't all live there with you. You're going to have to accept that.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Lol. And what would we learn if God just gave us all the answers? Did you learn anything in school when the answers were given to you? Would we progress and grow if we never had to think for ourselves?

In a world of good and evil we must figure out for ourselves what is good and what is evil. It's the lazy kids who throw in the towel and decide "anything goes" who are failing the School of Life.
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You just completely ignored my response.

I'm sorry but I see no reason to converse with you if you aren't even capable of reading my words and responding to them in turn.
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Ignore: I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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Haha, talking to you is like talking to an angry 5-year-old. No sense of responsibility or comprehension of the words being spoken. It's like you make a statement and 5 minutes later forget what you've said and say something completely contradictory. No awareness whatsoever.

Talk to you later, bro. Have fun with all that frustration and hatred.
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Lol. And what would we learn if God just gave us all the answers? Did you learn anything in school when the answers were given to you? Would we progress and grow if we never had to think for ourselves?

In a world of good and evil we must figure out for ourselves what is good and what is evil. It's the lazy kids who throw in the towel and decide "anything goes" who are failing the School of Life.
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You just completely ignored my response.

I'm sorry but I see no reason to converse with you if you aren't even capable of reading my words and responding to them in turn.
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Ignore: I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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Haha, talking to you is like talking to an angry 5-year-old. No sense of responsibility or comprehension of the words being spoken. It's like you make a statement and 5 minutes later forget what you've said and say something completely contradictory. No awareness whatsoever.

Talk to you later, bro. Have fun with all that frustration and hatred.
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Yes, I could see how the constant emotional and childish temper tantrums that I have thrown through out this thread could make you feel that way. Not to mention how my immoral and illogical defense of child molesters would make you feel that I have no sense of responsibility. Also, the way I have ignored your requests for input on direct questions on a regular basis could give the impression that I have no comprehension of basic English.

It is undoubtedly my illogical ranting and paranoid accusations that would give you the impression that I am filled with frustration and hatred. Cut me some slack, if it wasn't for the constant threat of alien abduction hanging over my head I would probably be much more empathetic towards all the poor, sick, unfortunate child rapists that I have been hatefully judging all these years.

But what really makes everything worse is my constant transference of all my personal failings on to you, so that I can accuse you of what I am too afraid to accuse myself of. Poor thing. You're just sick and need my sympathy.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Exquisite.

Masterful troll is masterful. Troll.

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Pesky aliens with their inter-galactic plagiarism. That message was left years ago with the scary looking alien holding the disc with the binary code in a field in England.
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Thank you. Knew I'd seen it before.
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You should not confuse our grey-skinned neighbors with the devil, who is the Grey. The government probably has foreign saucer-like craft in its possession as well as bodies.

Our neighbors are blamed for much that they don't do: especially "abductions" which are nightmares - mental attacks by the devil on the poorly protected. They remember a grey-skinned face and over-sized eyes, but this is a mental body not to be confused with our physical neighbors who are also grey-"skinned" with large eyes.

But it is the purpose of the Enemy to confuse and stir up suspicion among Brothers.


Would you please give some hints as to where you think our neighbors are. I am convinced that they are NB as described in 49:2.14 (561.13). Do you agree?

I always look forward to your posts.


The current picture I have formed of our neighbors is a silicone-based nonbreathing lifeform whose life energy cycle is based on a radioactive reaction between silicone and arsenic rather than our combustion cycle based on oxygen and carbon. I also presume they prefer a somewhat lower gravity, darker surroundings and/or underground locations. I predict larger skulls compared to body size than us, oversized dark eyes, probably no real nose, grey "skin" that would much tougher than ours as they are silicone-based. One possibility for a reproduction cycle that seems feasible would be an external seeded crystal formation. Their communication would probably verge on what we consider telepathic considering a lack of soundwaves, although some sort of energy wave vibration outside of visible light would probably do.

I have determined a probable location but don't want to post my supposition. I believe part of the American government suspects their location as well.


Thank you very much - well-considered insights.
And thanks for your previous analyses: : "Three ships" and others.
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Oh look, it's the marvelous troll being marvelous. Troll.

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Oh look, it's the marvelous troll being marvelous. Troll.

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You should not confuse our grey-skinned neighbors with the devil, who is the Grey. The government probably has foreign saucer-like craft in its possession as well as bodies.

Our neighbors are blamed for much that they don't do: especially "abductions" which are nightmares - mental attacks by the devil on the poorly protected. They remember a grey-skinned face and over-sized eyes, but this is a mental body not to be confused with our physical neighbors who are also grey-"skinned" with large eyes.

But it is the purpose of the Enemy to confuse and stir up suspicion among Brothers.


Would you please give some hints as to where you think our neighbors are. I am convinced that they are NB as described in 49:2.14 (561.13). Do you agree?

I always look forward to your posts.


The current picture I have formed of our neighbors is a silicone-based nonbreathing lifeform whose life energy cycle is based on a radioactive reaction between silicone and arsenic rather than our combustion cycle based on oxygen and carbon. I also presume they prefer a somewhat lower gravity, darker surroundings and/or underground locations. I predict larger skulls compared to body size than us, oversized dark eyes, probably no real nose, grey "skin" that would much tougher than ours as they are silicone-based. One possibility for a reproduction cycle that seems feasible would be an external seeded crystal formation. Their communication would probably verge on what we consider telepathic considering a lack of soundwaves, although some sort of energy wave vibration outside of visible light would probably do.

I have determined a probable location but don't want to post my supposition. I believe part of the American government suspects their location as well.


Thank you very much - well-considered insights.
And thanks for your previous analyses: : "Three ships" and others.


I had another thought. I have to assume a silicone-based lifeform would be capable of super computer-like genius, not being dependent on slow, wet chemical signaling like us. The brain pattern being crystalline would be less likely to deform so I can't imagine they would suffer from near as many physical errors as us. But even their retards would be super geniuses compared to us.

So their society would be one with no sheep, and nowhere for the wolves to hide - with every person simply being too smart, too logical to be easily fooled like our own race. I think it highly likely that this race would logically choose to self-segregate, and assuming a majority of the species would choose Zion, the remainder would leave and build Babylon elsewhere. Defectors from either side would simply relocate. A nonbreathing race would be less limited on planetary bodies they could comfortably inhabit.

I suspect Crabwood may have partially been a response to the Arecibo message. Given assumed super genius status and what I have experienced in interactions with C. and D., the Arecibo message is probably a carefully interwoven combination of truth and lie for strategic purpose. Although the message seems authentic, it doesn't reverberate with truth. So is it an alien lie or human fraud? Hard to say. The rod can find water, but not differentiate between different kinds of sand.

That is my feeling anyway.





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