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I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.

 
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I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
Put in an old 80 gig sata drive to give win 10 a go..

so i put the iso image on a dvd unplugged all my hdd but the 80 gig i wanted to install on and went through the installation.. all seemingly fine.

i played about with the new os for a bit and wanted to disable windows defender service.. which i couldnt due to files being in use.

so, i plugged in my previous os hdd and booted up into windows 8.1 with the win 10 hdd drive still plugged in so i could manually delete the windows defender folders.

well this is where things get strange..

the hard disk i had used to install windows 10 on had 2 partitions again and all the old data on the hard disk. during the windows 10 install i had deleted all partitions on the disk.

i shutdown, unplugged win 8.1 hdd and booted back into win 10 hdd.. obviously the windows 10 data is on there.

now back as a secondary on the windows 8.1 os the win 10 hard disk has all the old data on it and no sign of windows 10 installation, the same partitions as it had before and all the old data that is actually still there and not corrupt.

what kind of trickery is this?

anyone have an explanation?
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07/22/2015 05:41 PM
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
anyone have an explanation?
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you format the hd and restore factory defaults
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you format the hd and restore factory defaults
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prolly best bet, do completely clean install of win 10 then try again. If it still doesnt work they dont want you deleting it at all.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you format the hd and restore factory defaults
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during the windows 10 installation i deleted all the partitions and formatted the drive with one single partition.

yet when i boot up the system with a windows 8.1 hdd and the win 10 a secondary drive all the old data is still there including all the old partitions.

where is windows 10 on the drive? and how is windows 10 on the drive at the same time as all the old data.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you try turning it off and on again?
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07/22/2015 05:47 PM
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
It's programed to do just that, standard.
I've seen the light and now fight the fight.
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07/22/2015 05:47 PM
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
Search Wikipedia for "Malware"
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you try turning it off and on again?
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lol

just to clarify

windows 10 is on its own drive.

windows 8.1 is on its own drive.

i can swap drives and access each operating system.

but when i put the windows 10 drive as a secondary using the windows 8.1 drive to boot up with, the windows 10 drive has all the old data prior to being formatted and no windows 10 installation, yet it boots windows 10.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
deleting partitions and quick format doesn't really delete your datas.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
It's programed to do just that, standard.
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lol

how is this possible?

how can windows 10 exist on a hard disk at the same time as not being there, yet all the space on the disk is accounted for.
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Try searching GLP for "DR. ASTRO"



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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you format the hd and restore factory defaults
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during the windows 10 installation i deleted all the partitions and formatted the drive with one single partition.

yet when i boot up the system with a windows 8.1 hdd and the win 10 a secondary drive all the old data is still there including all the old partitions.

where is windows 10 on the drive? and how is windows 10 on the drive at the same time as all the old data.
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unplug the hard drive(s) with other windows on it.

foramt , then reinstall windows ten on . clean formated hd.

then hook back up the old hard drives.

then you should be able to go in and format them.

other than that.

you might want to call the fire department for help.


but for christ sakes don't call the cops, you'll get shot and die!
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
deleting partitions and quick format doesn't really delete your datas.
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its not just been deleted and formatted, its been overwritten with windows 10 and yet no sign of windows 10 data and all the old data is still there.

this isn't some file table only being deleted deal, this is bending the laws of physics.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you try turning it off and on again?
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lol

just to clarify

windows 10 is on its own drive.

windows 8.1 is on its own drive.

i can swap drives and access each operating system.

but when i put the windows 10 drive as a secondary using the windows 8.1 drive to boot up with, the windows 10 drive has all the old data prior to being formatted and no windows 10 installation, yet it boots windows 10.
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maybe you should get an expert to help you? next your gonna start deleting "phantom data" then tommorrow big thread about how all your fluffy kitten pictures are missing.

kittens
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you format the hd and restore factory defaults
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during the windows 10 installation i deleted all the partitions and formatted the drive with one single partition.

yet when i boot up the system with a windows 8.1 hdd and the win 10 a secondary drive all the old data is still there including all the old partitions.

where is windows 10 on the drive? and how is windows 10 on the drive at the same time as all the old data.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69842639


unplug the hard drive(s) with other windows on it.

foramt , then reinstall windows ten on . clean formated hd.

then hook back up the old hard drives.

then you should be able to go in and format them.

other than that.

you might want to call the fire department for help.


but for christ sakes don't call the cops, you'll get shot and die!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6865861


thanks for the advice, but i think you guys are missing the point here.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you try turning it off and on again?
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lol

just to clarify

windows 10 is on its own drive.

windows 8.1 is on its own drive.

i can swap drives and access each operating system.

but when i put the windows 10 drive as a secondary using the windows 8.1 drive to boot up with, the windows 10 drive has all the old data prior to being formatted and no windows 10 installation, yet it boots windows 10.
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64 vs 32 maybe
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you try turning it off and on again?
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lol

just to clarify

windows 10 is on its own drive.

windows 8.1 is on its own drive.

i can swap drives and access each operating system.

but when i put the windows 10 drive as a secondary using the windows 8.1 drive to boot up with, the windows 10 drive has all the old data prior to being formatted and no windows 10 installation, yet it boots windows 10.
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maybe you should get an expert to help you? next your gonna start deleting "phantom data" then tommorrow big thread about how all your fluffy kitten pictures are missing.

kittens
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i am the expert here..
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
Ghost MBR's.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
did you try turning it off and on again?
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lol

just to clarify

windows 10 is on its own drive.

windows 8.1 is on its own drive.

i can swap drives and access each operating system.

but when i put the windows 10 drive as a secondary using the windows 8.1 drive to boot up with, the windows 10 drive has all the old data prior to being formatted and no windows 10 installation, yet it boots windows 10.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69842639


64 vs 32 maybe
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interesting but all o's are the 64 bit variants.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
Ghost MBR's.
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then the windows 10 installation has a big problem.
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Get a free copy of winDirStat

It may help see it.
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did you format the hd and restore factory defaults
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during the windows 10 installation i deleted all the partitions and formatted the drive with one single partition.

yet when i boot up the system with a windows 8.1 hdd and the win 10 a secondary drive all the old data is still there including all the old partitions.

where is windows 10 on the drive? and how is windows 10 on the drive at the same time as all the old data.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69842639


unplug the hard drive(s) with other windows on it.

foramt , then reinstall windows ten on . clean formated hd.

then hook back up the old hard drives.

then you should be able to go in and format them.

other than that.

you might want to call the fire department for help.


but for christ sakes don't call the cops, you'll get shot and die!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6865861


thanks for the advice, but i think you guys are missing the point here.
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i didn't miss the point.

you messed up by installing windows 10 , first and foremost.

id even say anyone who install windows 8, is just a idiotic as someone who tries windows 10.
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boot from ubuntu live usb stick

use fdisk or gdisk to list partition table information for all drives.

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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
deleting partitions and quick format doesn't really delete your datas.
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its not just been deleted and formatted, its been overwritten with windows 10 and yet no sign of windows 10 data and all the old data is still there.

this isn't some file table only being deleted deal, this is bending the laws of physics.
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I doubt windows 10 is 80gb.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
In the BIOS, set the boot drive to be the one containing 8.1. (I.e., set the boot order).

Unless I'm missing something.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
You know since I havent upgraded to it just yet I cant call you out but i think youre BS'n. delete everything reformat, then reinstall, if it truly is still there at that point use a drive wiper to completely wipe the entire disk to the point data can no longer be recovered then restart, format and reinstall on clean partition.
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during the windows 10 installation i deleted all the partitions and formatted the drive with one single partition.

yet when i boot up the system with a windows 8.1 hdd and the win 10 a secondary drive all the old data is still there including all the old partitions.

where is windows 10 on the drive? and how is windows 10 on the drive at the same time as all the old data.
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unplug the hard drive(s) with other windows on it.

foramt , then reinstall windows ten on . clean formated hd.

then hook back up the old hard drives.

then you should be able to go in and format them.

other than that.

you might want to call the fire department for help.


but for christ sakes don't call the cops, you'll get shot and die!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6865861


thanks for the advice, but i think you guys are missing the point here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69842639


i didn't miss the point.

you messed up by installing windows 10 , first and foremost.

id even say anyone who install windows 8, is just a idiotic as someone who tries windows 10.
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the windows 10 install did not mess up..
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
Not a computer person but it sounds like we probably all have windows 10 on our computers and don't know it.

Cause they ask will you be going to windows 10. I never checked the box but something recently appeared on my opening page that would indicate that someone clicked it cause it is there waiting to be installed.

But, after hearing this, I'm thinking that its being surreptitiously loaded on everyone's windows's system whether they know it or not.
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
I'll stick to windows 7

Enjoy your windows 10 NSA Edition though
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Re: I just installed windows 10 and something really strange happened.
boot from ubuntu live usb stick

use fdisk or gdisk to list partition table information for all drives.

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done, it has only the old partitions that were on the drive prior to installing windows 10 installation and no sign of a new extra partition for windows 10.





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