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How come people, when they discover their past lives, were always someone historical?

Do historical people reincarnate into thousands of other people, or something.

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Egomania in everyone and people are generally full of shit to begin with.
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How come people, when they discover their past lives, were always someone historical?
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That is a misconception....

"The most extensive piece of research into past-life regression was carried out by the late Dr Helen Wambach, a psychologist on the staff of the Monmouth Medical Centre in New Jersey USA. Helen Wambach’s research (Wambach 1979a and 1979b) involved hypnotizing a number of groups of volunteers (over 1,000 volunteers in total), taking them back beyond birth and inviting them subsequently to fill in extensive questionnaires on the historical details of their experiences. As a scientist, Dr Wambach was interested primarily in the extent to which these details could be verified against known facts relevant to the periods to which volunteers claimed to have regressed.  

Among other important findings was that, contrary to popular misconceptions, very few people claimed to have regressed to lives of any consequence or even particularly happy lives, and no-one claimed to have been a known historical figure. In the overwhelming majority of cases the lives concerned were reported as obscure and even humble (70 per cent reported lives in the lower classes, 23 per cent in the middle classes, and only 7 per cent in the upper classes). In addition, the details given of such things as clothing, footwear, architecture, food, domestic utensils and climate were found to be accurate for the historical periods involved, even though volunteers claimed to have no special knowledge of them. Out of the 1,088 participants, only 11 produced results that showed discrepancies with the known historical facts.
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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Are there any anti-extraordinary lives?

Like some hidden jokester type that diabolically leaves nuggets of gold for the extraordinary to find and piece the puzzle together. Which, of course, is just all an elaborate hoax to use the powerful to market the bologna to the masses. Which, by design, turns the tables and directs the anger of the masses at the extraordinary, who formely experienced the love of the masses.

I think someone like that would be fascinating to study. It's like this whole balance thing. Like, duh, of course Vader brought balance to the force. It's not his fault that you didn't understand what that meant.
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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Are there any anti-extraordinary lives?
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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Are there any anti-extraordinary lives?

Like some hidden jokester type that diabolically leaves nuggets of gold for the extraordinary to find and piece the puzzle together. Which, of course, is just all an elaborate hoax to use the powerful to market the bologna to the masses. Which, by design, turns the tables and directs the anger of the masses at the extraordinary, who formely experienced the love of the masses.

I think someone like that would be fascinating to study. It's like this whole balance thing. Like, duh, of course Vader brought balance to the force. It's not his fault that you didn't understand what that meant.
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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They say John Wayne died with 40 lbs of material in his intestines.
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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Most are.. but I can see people's past lives.. so I know who is full of it.. and the real deal
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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They say John Wayne died with 40 lbs of material in his intestines.
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John Wayne reincarnated as Channing Tatum
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Yes the bullshitters always claim extraordinary past lives. It's like the fool who reads a book on astral projection then preaches to others how great he is at it.

I've had many past life memories since childhood. After finally getting hypnotic regression I uncovered quite a few mundane lives I've lived. But it's far more complex than living one life after the next. We can't project our physical conceptions onto the timeless realm of the soul.

Reincarnation is real. For what it's worth I can attest to the reality of it. But things aren't cut and dry. There are also no limitations to the abilities of the ethreal body. You can live multiple lives simultaneously in different worlds and universes. I've lived huge portions of lives on a different planet in an alien humanoid body, all in a single night's sleep here on Earth. During astral projections I've been employed and accomplished work as a completely different person.

But I did also uncover greater detail of some of my 'past' earthly human lives. The whole thing is mind blowing. There is a limitless quantity of spirits that may or may not occupy physical bodies across the infinity of space.

Where people go wrong is they ignorantly assume everything revolves around earth and themselves. Earth and all its occupants could turn to dust and it wouldn't even register on the radar of universal existence.
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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They say John Wayne died with 40 lbs of material in his intestines.
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John Wayne reincarnated as Channing Tatum
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Or, maybe, Gayvid Edgar RaCock!
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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Most are.. but I can see people's past lives.. so I know who is full of it.. and the real deal
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and I can smell bullshit miles away.
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How come people, when they discover their past lives, were always someone historical?
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That is a misconception....

"The most extensive piece of research into past-life regression was carried out by the late Dr Helen Wambach, a psychologist on the staff of the Monmouth Medical Centre in New Jersey USA. Helen Wambach’s research (Wambach 1979a and 1979b) involved hypnotizing a number of groups of volunteers (over 1,000 volunteers in total), taking them back beyond birth and inviting them subsequently to fill in extensive questionnaires on the historical details of their experiences. As a scientist, Dr Wambach was interested primarily in the extent to which these details could be verified against known facts relevant to the periods to which volunteers claimed to have regressed.  

Among other important findings was that, contrary to popular misconceptions, very few people claimed to have regressed to lives of any consequence or even particularly happy lives, and no-one claimed to have been a known historical figure. In the overwhelming majority of cases the lives concerned were reported as obscure and even humble (70 per cent reported lives in the lower classes, 23 per cent in the middle classes, and only 7 per cent in the upper classes). In addition, the details given of such things as clothing, footwear, architecture, food, domestic utensils and climate were found to be accurate for the historical periods involved, even though volunteers claimed to have no special knowledge of them. Out of the 1,088 participants, only 11 produced results that showed discrepancies with the known historical facts.
" - Life Beyond Death (David Fontana)

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Even when someone has had a past life or lives off planet it's automatically declared BS and that individual is to be permanently and horrifically bullied and far far worse for believing that they once had a lifetime or lifetimes not here on Earth. You, OP, just help to perpetrate an incredibly negative and unfair stereotype of reincarnated individuals. It'd be much easier and worthwhile if we were allowed off planet though. Thank you, Wolf, as well.
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Time is irrelative..who says if you reincarnate that you come back in the future? Or even on this plain of existence. Or dimension.
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Yes the bullshitters always claim extraordinary past lives. It's like the fool who reads a book on astral projection then preaches to others how great he is at it.

I've had many past life memories since childhood. After finally getting hypnotic regression I uncovered quite a few mundane lives I've lived. But it's far more complex than living one life after the next. We can't project our physical conceptions onto the timeless realm of the soul.

Reincarnation is real. For what it's worth I can attest to the reality of it. But things aren't cut and dry. There are also no limitations to the abilities of the ethreal body. You can live multiple lives simultaneously in different worlds and universes. I've lived huge portions of lives on a different planet in an alien humanoid body, all in a single night's sleep here on Earth. During astral projections I've been employed and accomplished work as a completely different person.

But I did also uncover greater detail of some of my 'past' earthly human lives. The whole thing is mind blowing. There is a limitless quantity of spirits that may or may not occupy physical bodies across the infinity of space.

Where people go wrong is they ignorantly assume everything revolves around earth and themselves. Earth and all its occupants could turn to dust and it wouldn't even register on the radar of universal existence.
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How about I give you a DNA example..

Let's say you believe yourself to be reincarnation of William Cecil

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But you are in fact genetically descended from him.. What you feel is his DNA memories in Your DNA Code

There are three aspects that must be separated to understand Reincarnation/Spirits

1. Reincarnation - Having the Same Spirit as Someone from the past

2. DNA Soul Memories - activating genetic ancestor memories within your DNA

3. Astral Channeling - Allowing a spirit to enter you and guide you in a specific life direcction
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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Most are.. but I can see people's past lives.. so I know who is full of it.. and the real deal
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and I can smell bullshit miles away.
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That is because your nose is large
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I have remembered numerous past lives and none of them remembered were of someone of historical significance. I have been told by a few others that I was Queen Boudicca (a Celt queen), but I haven't recouped a clear memory of the lifetime.

Just sayin', not everyone having past life memories is a nut job looking for personal significance by claiming to be someone of historical import.

Almost all of my past life memories were not hippy-skippy happy, and were marked by poverty and life difficulties, murder, and even suicide.
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If you visit a "psychic", they'll often tell you were a famous person in the past, probably to boost your ego, which ultimately boosts her wallet.

But in NDEs many will often learn of their past lives, and almost always these lives were ordinary.
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Time is irrelative..who says if you reincarnate that you come back in the future? Or even on this plain of existence. Or dimension.
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The bullshit in humans says....
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Time is irrelative..who says if you reincarnate that you come back in the future? Or even on this plain of existence. Or dimension.
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The bullshit in humans says....
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Someones butthurt.
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I have remembered numerous past lives and none of them remembered were of someone of historical significance. I have been told by a few others that I was Queen Boudicca (a Celt queen), but I haven't recouped a clear memory of the lifetime.

Just sayin', not everyone having past life memories is a nut job looking for personal significance by claiming to be someone of historical import.

Almost all of my past life memories were not hippy-skippy happy, and were marked by poverty and life difficulties, murder, and even suicide.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I get you there, cosmicgypsy. Been told that I've had over two thousand human past lives. Been thinking about that since she told me that. I feel deep down that she is accurate. Various past lives having been very harsh, Corrupt, and just plain extremely undesirable. Hopefully, you've learned more about yourself, cosmicgypsy, and have been becoming a better individual from knowing more of and about your own past(s) beyond your current lifetime.
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"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

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I get you there, cosmicgypsy. Been told that I've had over two thousand human past lives. Been thinking about that since she told me that. I feel deep down that she is accurate. Various past lives having been very harsh, Corrupt, and just plain extremely undesirable. Hopefully, you've learned more about yourself, cosmicgypsy, and have been becoming a better individual from knowing more of and about your own past(s) beyond your current lifetime.
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and you believed that nonsense?

sorry but "reincarnation" is a false new-age fantasy.You are on your first and only life here....just like everyone else.
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I have remembered numerous past lives and none of them remembered were of someone of historical significance. I have been told by a few others that I was Queen Boudicca (a Celt queen), but I haven't recouped a clear memory of the lifetime.

Just sayin', not everyone having past life memories is a nut job looking for personal significance by claiming to be someone of historical import.

Almost all of my past life memories were not hippy-skippy happy, and were marked by poverty and life difficulties, murder, and even suicide.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I get you there, cosmicgypsy. Been told that I've had over two thousand human past lives. Been thinking about that since she told me that. I feel deep down that she is accurate. Various past lives having been very harsh, Corrupt, and just plain extremely undesirable. Hopefully, you've learned more about yourself, cosmicgypsy, and have been becoming a better individual from knowing more of and about your own past(s) beyond your current lifetime.
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Of course, there is valuable learning to take away from all of them.

One of the understandings has to do with a person I had a long relationship with in this lifetime. It was a relationship that had ups and downs, but was indeed a difficult one. This man had an unreasonable sense of entitlement and, without knowing that in the five past lifetimes I remember having with him he was actually an entitled person in those lifetimes, I never would've understood his unrealistic sense of self importance.

Unfortunately, I learned of these too late. The murders and suicides are tied up with him. He's no longer in my life, and this truly is a blessing for me. It's ironically funny how we consistently gravitate towards the same person's being to get things worked out...but I'm finished with it now, as it is that I very much should be. In fact, there was a time wherein we had split up, had been apart for five years, but I just couldn't get him out of my heart. We got back together, this after my inner voice screamed no, no, no, and I ignored it, this the only time in my life I ignored my voice of knowing. My bad...my very, very bad.

And, really, while all of that spans so very much information that I'm not going into detail about, there has been one past life memory that has touched me more deeply, in a different way, and has led me to understand my person more completely--

It was a lifetime in London in the late 1800s. I was a little boy who was terribly deformed and had been abandoned by my parents. I lived on the streets of London as a beggar to survive, and died alone on the street at the age of five. It was a very sad and harsh memory...people can be so very cruel to those less fortunate.

Upon remembering this I was filled with the realization that this was why I had a great deal of innate compassion for those less fortunate in the here and now.

The memory of that lifetime has been the most personally remarkable and significant for me, regardless that the other spanned many lifetimes and had very real and life course altering implications in this lifetime.

That one memory of being that shunned and socially hated little boy was extraordinarily powerful, without changing - needing to change/rectify - the person I have been since birth.

Past life memories are very educational. If more of us would be able to remember, then I do believe all the ins and outs and nuances of relationships with others here and now - whether good or bad - would be far more crystal clear regarding the reason and purpose for them.
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
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Most are.. but I can see people's past lives.. so I know who is full of it.. and the real deal
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i can do this too. and to those of you who say were full of shit, you can take a hike. souls on a very basic level can recognize each other - particularly if they have lived with said original individual before. or even just been around that individual. for example - if anyone has ever had a dejavu moment with someone YOUVE NEVER MET BEFORE, yet feel like you know them comepletely...? this is that very same phenomena. now, i have a past life. and quite a few of people i know lived in that same time period infact were memebers of one or both factions of the era. im not going to reveal the lifetime. nor am i going to reveal who others currently are or were becuase this thread seems more geared to ridicule than towards actaul learning about the subject.
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Only about 10,000 spirits on Earth constantly live extraordinary lives
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This would lend credence to my idea in that people are full of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904204


Most are.. but I can see people's past lives.. so I know who is full of it.. and the real deal
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69200024


i can do this too. and to those of you who say were full of shit, you can take a hike. souls on a very basic level can recognize each other - particularly if they have lived with said original individual before. or even just been around that individual. for example - if anyone has ever had a dejavu moment with someone YOUVE NEVER MET BEFORE, yet feel like you know them comepletely...? this is that very same phenomena. now, i have a past life. and quite a few of people i know lived in that same time period infact were memebers of one or both factions of the era. im not going to reveal the lifetime. nor am i going to reveal who others currently are or were becuase this thread seems more geared to ridicule than towards actaul learning about the subject.
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Perhaps that might get turned around given others chiming in with appropriate insights and experiences to share, steering it away from ridicule...or just making the ridicule seem like background noise.

Ridicule has become such mainstay activity on the forum, even where it's most inappropriate, so I don't think it's going to be gotten away from, but it can be given its due for what it is and simply ignored.


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To remember that no matter how darkness creeped in on us... to discover that we do not give up on casting it out of us and this world, is to discover faith. --Ain Soph Aur/A R K, GLP member

When North Korea is easier to negotiate with than the democrat party, then something is horribly wrong with them.--Zedakah, GLP member