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Bush Dismisses Geneva Convention!!

 
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09/17/2006 04:54 AM
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Bush Dismisses Geneva Convention!!
Says he has got to give his interrogators the tools they need - wonder what tools they are then, pliars and blowtorch perhaps!

David Fickling
Friday September 15, 2006
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The US president, George Bush, today dismissed the Geneva conventions on the laws of war as "vague" and called on Congress to back controversial new rules on the handling of terror suspects.

Mr Bush's remarks came after the proposed laws were yesterday rejected by senior Republicans including the former secretary of state Colin Powell and the influential senator John McCain.

The US government last week admitted the existence of a long-secret CIA prison network, announcing that 14 high-value terror suspects had been transferred from the network to the Guantánamo Bay prison camp.

Mr Bush said the interrogation of the terror suspects would have to end if the new laws were not passed. "This programme won't go forward if there's vague standards applied like those in the Geneva Conventions," he said.

"Perhaps some in Congress don't think this programme is important. I think it's vital. I got to give [interrogators] the tools they need."

A military handbook released at the same time as the announcement outlawed the use of a broad range of torture techniques - including the playing of loud music, forcing prisoners to hold uncomfortable poses and simulated drownings - by military personnel.

However, it did not cover the behaviour of CIA officers, who are responsible for interrogating most terrorist suspects.

New laws proposed by Mr Bush would pave the way for trying the 14 suspects under a system of military commissions, and would prevent any prosecutions over the treatment of terror detainees until now.

When they were announced last week, Mr Bush admitted the al-Qaida suspect Abu Zubaydah had been subjected to several "tough" alternative interrogation techniques during his incarceration.

Reports indicated that these techniques included punches and slaps, naked confinement in cold cells and being forced to stand for long stretches at a time.

Mr Bush claimed the techniques - which would contravene the Geneva conventions on inhuman and degrading treatment - did not constitute torture.

He added that the interrogations had provided information useful to terrorism investigators, although he did not provide any specific information.
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09/17/2006 12:08 PM
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Well, I wonder if Bush has considered the implication of this.

USA has soldiers all over the world. Other countries may dismiss Geneva Convention too. and apply their own 'alternative interrogation techniques'.

It doesn't matter how Bush calls it. Accepting and supporting tourture as one of the american interrogation techniques, just destroys the little respect and admiration that the world used to have for americans.

Sad...it is sad how much things have changed after 9/11. It is almost surreal. As if Bush were determined to totally destroy his own country.
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09/17/2006 12:09 PM
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I sure hope we get to dismiss him!!
Jack Aubrey
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09/17/2006 12:18 PM
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Even those British bastard in 1749 didn't condone ill treatment of war prisoners. Could it be that Brits of 250 years ago were more civilized than the Bush Administration?

Consider the 9th Article:

9.) If any ship or vessel be taken as prize, none of the officers, mariners, or other persons on board her, shall be stripped of their clothes, or in any sort pillaged, beaten, or evil-intreated, upon the pain that the person or persons so offending, shall be liable to such punishment as a court martial shall think fit to inflict.

[link to www.io.com]

Those torturing bastards in the Bush Adminstration need to be voted out NOW!! DAMMIT!!
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09/17/2006 12:21 PM
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The Geneva Convention as the last word is dead, antiquated... kaput!

The framework can be saved. Bush and Bolton are headed in the right direction on this one.
LTC Peachblossom

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09/17/2006 12:48 PM
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The Geneva Convention as the last word is dead, antiquated... kaput!

The framework can be saved. Bush and Bolton are headed in the right direction on this one.
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Please elaborate.

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09/17/2006 02:36 PM
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I didn't realize Bush was such a bully. I think he needs to defer to McCain on this one since McCain knows more about torture than Bush.

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