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Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians

 
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The rapture doctrine is a destructive heresy out of roman beast which is the mother of harlots the aim of which is to cover up the beast king is and make him future when it is the 8th king the Pontiff who is antichrist


John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world
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The rapture doctrine is a destructive heresy out of roman beast which is the mother of harlots the aim of which is to cover up the beast king is and make him future when it is the 8th king the Pontiff who is antichrist


John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69082166


For the umpteenth time: the RCC does NOT teach any rapture doctrine. Pre-tribbers believe the pope will be the False Prophet, and the Vatican/RCC is the harlot on the beast.

You took John 17:15 out of context; Jesus is speaking of his disciples at the time. Only later does he expand to include future believers. And Jesus said very little about the church; it was a "mystery" revealed to Paul later on. So if you want to learn about the Rapture, read Paul's letters.

Even if you ignore all that, this same Jesus said to "pray that you may escape all that is about to happen", so the concept of escape is entirely Biblical and something Jesus said to pray for. If you think what Jesus said about escape in Luke 21:36 contradicts what he said in John 17:15, it's because you take the latter out of context and misapply it to all of church history.

All of this has been said a hundred times (at least) in this website.
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Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.

Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.

The show nothing but contempt for those that do.

Draw your own conclusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21742615

Because those that believe in the pre-trib rapture have cost the lives of millions and millions of innocent people and even worse fellow Christians.

You are Israeli firsters and support war against humanity via the insane Satanic neo-cons. You are self-serving, self-centered and serve no useful purpose if all you want to do is save your own ass from suffering.

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Who wouldn't want to save themselves from suffering? Or are you the kind of person who likes driving steel pins through your dick. Dumb ass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70178486

In you pre-trib rapture you present a weak god. What you are saying is it is impossible for the word of God to turn every person on earth to a "believer".

No where is your belief system do you even think about what would happen if everyone was a "born again Christian". You discount the fact that his words are powerful enough to do just that.

If everyone on earth was "good" then what would be the point of the "pre-trib" rapture? You cannot have a pre-trib rapture if there is no tribulation. You can only have a tribulation if there are evil people and lots of deceived people.

So what you have done is to make Christianity an exclusive club. You need evil people like the air you breath in order to convince yourself that you are "special". You are the "select" "the bride of christ".

You have to have deceived people and thus you work with Satan to make sure there are deceived people because it is in your best interest that there are. At least in your twisted mind you deceive yourself thinking you are somehow immune from the Tribulation.

So the bottom line is you half hardheartedly preach your fake gospel not really wanting everyone to convert. You are the very worst kind of hypocrite. Your true belief is that the only way you get to heaven is if a lot of people go straight to the pits of hell. Your pre-trib religion is nothing more than self-fulling self-centered fraud.


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In you pre-trib rapture you present a weak god. What you are saying is it is impossible for the word of God to turn every person on earth to a "believer".

No where is your belief system do you even think about what would happen if everyone was a "born again Christian". You discount the fact that his words are powerful enough to do just that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70130280


You aren't even making any sense. Nothing in the first two paragraphs has anything to do with the rapture or prophecy at all.

If everyone on earth was "good" then what would be the point of the "pre-trib" rapture? You cannot have a pre-trib rapture if there is no tribulation. You can only have a tribulation if there are evil people and lots of deceived people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70130280

Who even says everyone on earth is good? What does that have to do with anything? We DO believe there will be a tribulation, and that the Bible promises that the church will not go through it. Where are you getting your nonsense?


So what you have done is to make Christianity an exclusive club. You need evil people like the air you breath in order to convince yourself that you are "special". You are the "select" "the bride of christ".
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More ridiculous nonsense that comes only from your silly made-up story. It's people like you who think you're "special" because you intend to prove your self-righteousness by going through the tribulation.


You have to have deceived people and thus you work with Satan to make sure there are deceived people because it is in your best interest that there are. At least in your twisted mind you deceive yourself thinking you are somehow immune from the Tribulation.
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More lies, more slander, more baseless nonsense. And we do NOT think our being snatched by Jesus before the trib starts has ANYTHING to do with our own righteousness, but YOU think YOUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS will get you through the trib. Hypocrite!

So the bottom line is you half hardheartedly preach your fake gospel not really wanting everyone to convert. You are the very worst kind of hypocrite. Your true belief is that the only way you get to heaven is if a lot of people go straight to the pits of hell. Your pre-trib religion is nothing more than self-fulling self-centered fraud.
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The bottom line is that you are a slanderer, an ignoramus, and a liar. We preach the TRUE gospel because we CARE about people and want them to come with us. YOU do not tell us what we believe!

It's posts like this liar's that make it impossible to discuss the issue like civilized people, let alone Christians. All this disinfo and ignorance about pre-trib, and the arrogance displayed by our critics, proves the OP over and over. We will continue to spread the gospel of salvation by grace NOT works, so more people can be "snatched" when Jesus comes "at a time you do not expect him". See ya!
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WishinForTheMission,

When did you become perfect in all of your understandings of all of the Things of God

so that you feel justified and righteous in judging Believers who differ with you about the Things of God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65632764
Isaiah 28King James Version (KJV)

28 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!

2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.

3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:

4 And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.

5 In that day shall the Lord of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,

6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


That verse does not say that you are perfect in all of your understandings of all of the Things of God.

Neither did you even attempt to give an actual answer to the question.

Those that believe in the Rapture believe it because of verse upon verse, line upon line, precept upon precept.

In your own opinion, why would you suppose it was that women were instructed not to speak?

This time, instead of self-righteously quoting verses that do not answer the question but you think prove you somehow, try to actually answer the questions.

Do you think that you are perfect in all of your understandings of the Things of God and cannot be mistaken?


Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No. Anything else is of the evil one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70184719


Every single time you take scripture out of context, it is to your detriment! By taking partial phrases and partial concepts out of God's word is how the lies begin, and how false teachings and doctrine perpetuate! How very sad, friend!! Who taught you to take partial phrases out of the Bible and infer you own meaning to them? That type of thing is clear deception.

The verses ( that you clearly took out of context)...again) speaking about "swearing by the alter or swearing by anything else OTHER than YaHoVaH so they could circumvent God's word! So, it is fairly ironic that you misrepresented that particular event! By swearing by something ELSE than by the name of God, the Pharisees thought they could get away with their no being yes and vice versa. In plain English: lying! Saying one thing but really meaning another. The Pharisees thought themselves clever for doing this. Do you also think yourself clever for twisting as few phrases from the Bible to completely change what they mean? Personally, I think it is deception to the utmost degree, and I will not do it!

Women (specifically WIVES in the Greek text) are not to usurp the authority of THEIR man in public. That is why the example of Adam and Eve is used! They were made as two that became ONE flesh! There were plenty of women teachers AND disciples! Further than that were women prophetesses AND judges....even in olden temple days.
God is no respecter of persons; He uses whoever will be obedient!

Which brings me to my next point: a person will only be given as much truth as the will be obedient with/to. God desires obedience and an obedient heart with His Torah.....all of it!

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When wielding a sword, it is most important that you have a "handle" on it, or else you will get badly injured. Pardon me for saying so, but it is extremely dangerous to misuse God's words for your own selfish purposes. It is more important to read them in full context; which may mean looking up the Hebrew or Greek words.

As far as my understandings: if I know anything at all it is because God allowed me to be unblinded. I had to separate myself from spiritual Egypt and Babylon, and that meant being led through the wilderness trusting in God only. I had to cry out in repentance for the lies we inherited. I had a complete paradigm shift. Come out of her, my people!

Why are you attacking me personally and trying to publicly shame me for rightly dividing the word? You are being rancorous and hateful. Why? According to Jeremiah 16, we have inherited these lies. Again I will tell you, if I know ANYTHING at all, it is because God unblinded me AND allowed me to see. Because I have LOVE for all my brethren, I am trying to point them in the direction of TRUTH as well. Because I was once blind, I realize how sad and confusing that situation is to be mired in!!


All things point back to Torah! If you do not understand Torah, then you have NO idea who Yashua is! This is vitally impirtant cyz He saud Himswkf that the volume if the Torah spike of Him!!!

Thus far when using Scripture, you have taken a few key words or phrases completely out of context, and gleefully admonished me with your perceived untruths. Why? Anything and everything anyone does or says should be because of LOVE of your brothers and sisters, if not then it is ALWAYS going to be unfruitful. Trees that do not produce GOOD fruit are burned up in the fire!!
~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always
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WishinForTheMission,

When did you become perfect in all of your understandings of all of the Things of God

so that you feel justified and righteous in judging Believers who differ with you about the Things of God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65632764
Isaiah 28King James Version (KJV)

28 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!

2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.

3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:

4 And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.

5 In that day shall the Lord of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,

6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


That verse does not say that you are perfect in all of your understandings of all of the Things of God.

Neither did you even attempt to give an actual answer to the question.

Those that believe in the Rapture believe it because of verse upon verse, line upon line, precept upon precept.

In your own opinion, why would you suppose it was that women were instructed not to speak?

This time, instead of self-righteously quoting verses that do not answer the question but you think prove you somehow, try to actually answer the questions.

Do you think that you are perfect in all of your understandings of the Things of God and cannot be mistaken?


Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No. Anything else is of the evil one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70184719


Every single time you take scripture out of context, it is to your detriment! By taking partial phrases and partial concepts out of God's word is how the lies begin, and how false teachings and doctrine perpetuate! How very sad, friend!! Who taught you to take partial phrases out of the Bible and infer you own meaning to them? That type of thing is clear deception.

The verses ( that you clearly took out of context)...again) speaking about "swearing by the alter or swearing by anything else OTHER than YaHoVaH so they could circumvent God's word! So, it is fairly ironic that you misrepresented that particular event! By swearing by something ELSE than by the name of God, the Pharisees thought they could get away with their no being yes and vice versa. In plain English: lying! Saying one thing but really meaning another. The Pharisees thought themselves clever for doing this. Do you also think yourself clever for twisting as few phrases from the Bible to completely change what they mean? Personally, I think it is deception to the utmost degree, and I will not do it!

Women (specifically WIVES in the Greek text) are not to usurp the authority of THEIR man in public. That is why the example of Adam and Eve is used! They were made as two that became ONE flesh! There were plenty of women teachers AND disciples! Further than that were women prophetesses AND judges....even in olden temple days.
God is no respecter of persons; He uses whoever will be obedient!

Which brings me to my next point: a person will only be given as much truth as the will be obedient with/to. God desires obedience and an obedient heart with His Torah.....all of it!

[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]


When wielding a sword, it is most important that you have a "handle" on it, or else you will get badly injured. Pardon me for saying so, but it is extremely dangerous to misuse God's words for your own selfish purposes. It is more important to read them in full context; which may mean looking up the Hebrew or Greek words.

As far as my understandings: if I know anything at all it is because God allowed me to be unblinded. I had to separate myself from spiritual Egypt and Babylon, and that meant being led through the wilderness trusting in God only. I had to cry out in repentance for the lies we inherited. I had a complete paradigm shift. Come out of her, my people!

Why are you attacking me personally and trying to publicly shame me for rightly dividing the word? You are being rancorous and hateful. Why? According to Jeremiah 16, we have inherited these lies. Again I will tell you, if I know ANYTHING at all, it is because God unblinded me AND allowed me to see. Because I have LOVE for all my brethren, I am trying to point them in the direction of TRUTH as well. Because I was once blind, I realize how sad and confusing that situation is to be mired in!!


All things point back to Torah! If you do not understand Torah, then you have NO idea who Yashua is! This is vitally impirtant cyz He saud Himswkf that the volume if the Torah spike of Him!!!

Thus far when using Scripture, you have taken a few key words or phrases completely out of context, and gleefully admonished me with your perceived untruths. Why? Anything and everything anyone does or says should be because of LOVE of your brothers and sisters, if not then it is ALWAYS going to be unfruitful. Trees that do not produce GOOD fruit are burned up in the fire!!
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


You warned them.

It seems every time sound doctrine is used there is a doctrine of men that's is used to seprate the church from this or isreal from that. Little ones and twos, here and there. All of which makes void Gods voice in this world.

The blind are that way for a reason out of love that they might be saved only after a period of deep and utter shame having bowed thier knee to satan thinking he is God. They will be taught dicipline and tested again.

God knows who He can use to teach the rest dicipline by example. Those that He can't will get to attend the school of hard knocks that they might be further refined, motivated by thier shame, and tested again when satan is released for that short season.
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Isaiah 28King James Version (KJV)

28 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!

2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.

3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:

4 And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.

5 In that day shall the Lord of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,

6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


That verse does not say that you are perfect in all of your understandings of all of the Things of God.

Neither did you even attempt to give an actual answer to the question.

Those that believe in the Rapture believe it because of verse upon verse, line upon line, precept upon precept.

In your own opinion, why would you suppose it was that women were instructed not to speak?

This time, instead of self-righteously quoting verses that do not answer the question but you think prove you somehow, try to actually answer the questions.

Do you think that you are perfect in all of your understandings of the Things of God and cannot be mistaken?


Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No. Anything else is of the evil one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70184719


Every single time you take scripture out of context, it is to your detriment! By taking partial phrases and partial concepts out of God's word is how the lies begin, and how false teachings and doctrine perpetuate! How very sad, friend!! Who taught you to take partial phrases out of the Bible and infer you own meaning to them? That type of thing is clear deception.

The verses ( that you clearly took out of context)...again) speaking about "swearing by the alter or swearing by anything else OTHER than YaHoVaH so they could circumvent God's word! So, it is fairly ironic that you misrepresented that particular event! By swearing by something ELSE than by the name of God, the Pharisees thought they could get away with their no being yes and vice versa. In plain English: lying! Saying one thing but really meaning another. The Pharisees thought themselves clever for doing this. Do you also think yourself clever for twisting as few phrases from the Bible to completely change what they mean? Personally, I think it is deception to the utmost degree, and I will not do it!

Women (specifically WIVES in the Greek text) are not to usurp the authority of THEIR man in public. That is why the example of Adam and Eve is used! They were made as two that became ONE flesh! There were plenty of women teachers AND disciples! Further than that were women prophetesses AND judges....even in olden temple days.
God is no respecter of persons; He uses whoever will be obedient!

Which brings me to my next point: a person will only be given as much truth as the will be obedient with/to. God desires obedience and an obedient heart with His Torah.....all of it!

[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]


When wielding a sword, it is most important that you have a "handle" on it, or else you will get badly injured. Pardon me for saying so, but it is extremely dangerous to misuse God's words for your own selfish purposes. It is more important to read them in full context; which may mean looking up the Hebrew or Greek words.

As far as my understandings: if I know anything at all it is because God allowed me to be unblinded. I had to separate myself from spiritual Egypt and Babylon, and that meant being led through the wilderness trusting in God only. I had to cry out in repentance for the lies we inherited. I had a complete paradigm shift. Come out of her, my people!

Why are you attacking me personally and trying to publicly shame me for rightly dividing the word? You are being rancorous and hateful. Why? According to Jeremiah 16, we have inherited these lies. Again I will tell you, if I know ANYTHING at all, it is because God unblinded me AND allowed me to see. Because I have LOVE for all my brethren, I am trying to point them in the direction of TRUTH as well. Because I was once blind, I realize how sad and confusing that situation is to be mired in!!


All things point back to Torah! If you do not understand Torah, then you have NO idea who Yashua is! This is vitally impirtant cyz He saud Himswkf that the volume if the Torah spike of Him!!!

Thus far when using Scripture, you have taken a few key words or phrases completely out of context, and gleefully admonished me with your perceived untruths. Why? Anything and everything anyone does or says should be because of LOVE of your brothers and sisters, if not then it is ALWAYS going to be unfruitful. Trees that do not produce GOOD fruit are burned up in the fire!!
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


You warned them.

It seems every time sound doctrine is used there is a doctrine of men that's is used to seprate the church from this or isreal from that. Little ones and twos, here and there. All of which makes void Gods voice in this world.

The blind are that way for a reason out of love that they might be saved only after a period of deep and utter shame having bowed thier knee to satan thinking he is God. They will be taught dicipline and tested again.

God knows who He can use to teach the rest dicipline by example. Those that He can't will get to attend the school of hard knocks that they might be further refined, motivated by thier shame, and tested again when satan is released for that short season.
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Thank you. I see you too have thought much about it. Heaven only knows how heavy my heart has been, and how very much I have lamented over the "state" of things in this thread: ALL if it. From the tone to the taking of phrases only to build a complete and utter false doctrine upon.

Everyone has "thrown out" God's word, and their heart despise His commandments. Just as the Pharisees were always putting man-made rules above God's word, the very same is applicable today. THAT fact alone rendered them "the Synagogue of Satan".

I am sick in my heart about the state of things! I see that time is short, and the sands keep falling through the hourglass at an alarming rate.

As evidenced by this thread, those who are obedient will be hated and ultimately killed. Nothing new under the sun because that is what has been happening from the beginning.

Bless you AC, and may you have a beautiful day!

hf
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That verse does not say that you are perfect in all of your understandings of all of the Things of God.

Neither did you even attempt to give an actual answer to the question.

Those that believe in the Rapture believe it because of verse upon verse, line upon line, precept upon precept.

In your own opinion, why would you suppose it was that women were instructed not to speak?

This time, instead of self-righteously quoting verses that do not answer the question but you think prove you somehow, try to actually answer the questions.

Do you think that you are perfect in all of your understandings of the Things of God and cannot be mistaken?


Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No. Anything else is of the evil one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70184719


Every single time you take scripture out of context, it is to your detriment! By taking partial phrases and partial concepts out of God's word is how the lies begin, and how false teachings and doctrine perpetuate! How very sad, friend!! Who taught you to take partial phrases out of the Bible and infer you own meaning to them? That type of thing is clear deception.

The verses ( that you clearly took out of context)...again) speaking about "swearing by the alter or swearing by anything else OTHER than YaHoVaH so they could circumvent God's word! So, it is fairly ironic that you misrepresented that particular event! By swearing by something ELSE than by the name of God, the Pharisees thought they could get away with their no being yes and vice versa. In plain English: lying! Saying one thing but really meaning another. The Pharisees thought themselves clever for doing this. Do you also think yourself clever for twisting as few phrases from the Bible to completely change what they mean? Personally, I think it is deception to the utmost degree, and I will not do it!

Women (specifically WIVES in the Greek text) are not to usurp the authority of THEIR man in public. That is why the example of Adam and Eve is used! They were made as two that became ONE flesh! There were plenty of women teachers AND disciples! Further than that were women prophetesses AND judges....even in olden temple days.
God is no respecter of persons; He uses whoever will be obedient!

Which brings me to my next point: a person will only be given as much truth as the will be obedient with/to. God desires obedience and an obedient heart with His Torah.....all of it!

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When wielding a sword, it is most important that you have a "handle" on it, or else you will get badly injured. Pardon me for saying so, but it is extremely dangerous to misuse God's words for your own selfish purposes. It is more important to read them in full context; which may mean looking up the Hebrew or Greek words.

As far as my understandings: if I know anything at all it is because God allowed me to be unblinded. I had to separate myself from spiritual Egypt and Babylon, and that meant being led through the wilderness trusting in God only. I had to cry out in repentance for the lies we inherited. I had a complete paradigm shift. Come out of her, my people!

Why are you attacking me personally and trying to publicly shame me for rightly dividing the word? You are being rancorous and hateful. Why? According to Jeremiah 16, we have inherited these lies. Again I will tell you, if I know ANYTHING at all, it is because God unblinded me AND allowed me to see. Because I have LOVE for all my brethren, I am trying to point them in the direction of TRUTH as well. Because I was once blind, I realize how sad and confusing that situation is to be mired in!!


All things point back to Torah! If you do not understand Torah, then you have NO idea who Yashua is! This is vitally impirtant cyz He saud Himswkf that the volume if the Torah spike of Him!!!

Thus far when using Scripture, you have taken a few key words or phrases completely out of context, and gleefully admonished me with your perceived untruths. Why? Anything and everything anyone does or says should be because of LOVE of your brothers and sisters, if not then it is ALWAYS going to be unfruitful. Trees that do not produce GOOD fruit are burned up in the fire!!
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You warned them.

It seems every time sound doctrine is used there is a doctrine of men that's is used to seprate the church from this or isreal from that. Little ones and twos, here and there. All of which makes void Gods voice in this world.

The blind are that way for a reason out of love that they might be saved only after a period of deep and utter shame having bowed thier knee to satan thinking he is God. They will be taught dicipline and tested again.

God knows who He can use to teach the rest dicipline by example. Those that He can't will get to attend the school of hard knocks that they might be further refined, motivated by thier shame, and tested again when satan is released for that short season.
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Thank you. I see you too have thought much about it. Heaven only knows how heavy my heart has been, and how very much I have lamented over the "state" of things in this thread: ALL if it. From the tone to the taking of phrases only to build a complete and utter false doctrine upon.

Everyone has "thrown out" God's word, and their heart despise His commandments. Just as the Pharisees were always putting man-made rules above God's word, the very same is applicable today. THAT fact alone rendered them "the Synagogue of Satan".

I am sick in my heart about the state of things! I see that time is short, and the sands keep falling through the hourglass at an alarming rate.

As evidenced by this thread, those who are obedient will be hated and ultimately killed. Nothing new under the sun because that is what has been happening from the beginning.

Bless you AC, and may you have a beautiful day!

hf
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This is because you reject our "Blessed Hope". It's a shame you have to live this way instead of seeing the teaching for what it is and embracing it!
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Is it blind to look for Christ or blind to disagree with you?

You call someone blind and then hf?
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I am being hones, and I am only going by what is written. Again, I love all peoples, and am trying to HELP.

I am only going by scripture, and to clearly illustrate that I am, let's take the words " blessed hope" you keep quoting, and examine them in context.
The sentence takes up three verses:

12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

That phrase "peculiar people" is extremely important, and I dare say is the cruxt of what this entire chapter is regarding as it points back to the Torah:

Exodus 19:5 Now therefore if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above allppeople: for all the earth is mine.

Peculiar People:
The word in Hebrew is segullah, and it means the king's treasure or a jewel.

This is important because if we read the next chapter in Exodus we see the benefits that go with obeying, and ONLY by obeying we are a peculiar peoples. Although, if we read all of Titus' letter, we see he is speaking about becoming heirs! So then, it is important to know and understand what a peculiar people is and what is promised them!

Knowing and understanding Torah as the Apostles did is the only way not to take things out of context, and it is to our benefit because Torah was the only scripture they had and knew by heart. There is no way to understand what they are talking about unless we have the same foundation of Word that they do!

Exodus 19:6
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Being heirs through Yahshua, we are grafted into Israel, and as a peculiar people we are entitled to much.

I can assure you, the "blessed hope" is not to be whisked out of here.........

Blessings!
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ONE fold and ONE shepherd. Those sheep will hear His voice.
The "blessed hope" is described in detail above!

hf
~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always
Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally!
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WishinForTheMission,

Do you think that you are perfect in all of your understandings of the Things of God and cannot be mistaken?

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Why can't you answer Yes or No?

Exceedingly simple question: Are you perfect?

But you can't answer Yes or No...
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In my opinion,

in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,

those that hate The Rapture

and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,

are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming

but, quite the contrary,

their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it

are evidence of its Truthfulness.



Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ

that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ

because those believers in Jesus Christ

believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier

than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe

and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...
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In my opinion,

in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,

those that hate The Rapture

and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,

are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming

but, quite the contrary,

their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it

are evidence of its Truthfulness.



Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ

that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ

because those believers in Jesus Christ

believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier

than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe

and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...
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I've been staying away from posting again in this thread, but have been reading here and there.

Look, I understand people are at different places in their walk, and I hope I'm being patient, but this must be stated...

Seeing how some in this thread, who are trying to bash the Rapture and those who believe in it, are behaving, only underlines what I've been seeing as a huge problem in Christianity today: a failure to handle Scripture correctly.

Please, at least consider the possibility of learning even basic dispensations. You might want to take it up, prayerfully before the Lord.

The more I know, the more I realize how much more I need to know - and I won't have a perfect understanding this side of Eternity.

Regardless of what you know, or what you think you know, be careful how you treat your brothers and sisters, folks.

Love all of you in Christ.
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What some of the most accomplished and well known people in history had to say about religion:

"Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world."
- Voltaire

“If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be - a Christian."
- Mark Twain

"When people expect God to plan their lives for them, and protect them, they tend to lose their motivation to guide and control their own lives."
- Charles W. Faulkner

"I know of no book which has been a source of brutality and sadistic conduct, both public and private, that can compare with the Bible."
- Sir James Paget

"There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as the Dark Ages."
- Ruth Hurmence Green

"There was a time when I believed in the story and the scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it, just as I believed there was Devil. Suddenly the light broke through to me and I knew this God was a lie... For indeed it is a silly story, and each generation nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty. Why do people go on pretending about this Christianity?"
- H. G. Wells

"Where knowledge ends, religion begins."
- Benjamin Disraeli

"The God of the Bible is a moral monstrosity."
- Henry Ward Beecher

"The careful student of history will discover that Christianity has been of very little value in advancing civilization, but has done a great deal toward retarding it."
- Matilda Gage

"I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, and the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough - I call it the one immortal blemish on the human race."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

"We have become so accustomed to the religious lie that surrounds us that we do not notice the atrocity, stupidity and cruelty with which the teaching of the Christian church is permeated."
- Leo Tolstoy

"Good people can do good and bad people can do evil. But for good people to do evil -- that takes religion."
- Steven Weinberg

"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth."
- Henry Mencken

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
- Albert Einstein

"Turn over the pages of history and read the damning record of the church's opposition to every advance in every field of science. . . ."
- Upton Sinclair

"Catholicism is contrary to human liberty. Catholicism bases salvation upon belief. Catholicism teaches man to trample his reason under foot. And for that reason it is wrong."
- Robert Ingersoll

"The principle of the Inquisition was murderous. . . . The popes were not only murderers in the great style, but they also made murder a legal basis of the Christian Church and a condition of salvation."
- Lord Acton
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I value your opinion. You are 100% correct.
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I value your opinion. You are 100% correct.
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Thanks
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Church is no place for a real Christian. But then you bedroom christians know what I'm talking about and you church christians don't. If the authorities don't knock on your door someday and take you away then you should really be worried about your salvation. Yeshua is king.
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In my opinion,

in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,

those that hate The Rapture

and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,

are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming

but, quite the contrary,

their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it

are evidence of its Truthfulness.



Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ

that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ

because those believers in Jesus Christ

believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier

than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe

and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...
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I think the rapture is a very dangerous thing to teach people.

For anyone to say that hey, everything will be just peachy, you don't have to worry about anything in these days we're in, is straight from the devil.

What if you are wrong? The rapture has NOTHING to do whatsoever with someone's salvation. So WHY WHY WHY do so MANY of you so called Christians FIERCELY, like you are possessed or something, HAVE to tell people that if they're saved they will be raptured?

Why when you KNOW so many Christians don't believe it will happen like you say, yet you spread that demon lie like it's a part of salvation?

In doing so, YOU make it part of salvation! And because of YOU, MANY will turn from God at that time. They will either say it was bs so God must be a lie, or they will for the first the EVER have to think about havi g to actually DIE for their belief.

Why?!? Why would you risk lying, or at best case scenario, risk people burning in hell because YOU misinterpreted scripture to mean something else. Something that WASN'T even part of salvation, but YOU made it that way!

YOU are the one that is doing the devils work!! Every person that you taught that lie or, possible misinterpretation to, and everyone they taught it to; their souls are on your hands.

You could even say that you think we are raptures before the shtf, but not positive. Then tell them WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS about the slain of God from one end of earth to the other. That we will be imprisoned and then beheaded for not denying our faith.

That you hope you are right about a rapture, but just in case you're not, that they need to understand what that means for them, especially in these last days. Then tell them what happens to those who take the mark.

To NOT warn them of all of that is EVIL. I tell people that I believe the vast majority of us will die during the tribulation, but that some manage to stay alive when Christ returns at the end of revelation. I tell them that some believe that we will be saved before the tribulation, and some say during. I always say that I don't think he will come until the very end so they need to prepare their selves to go through horrors like we can not even imagine.

That way at least they know the truth of what's coming. Better than expecting a rapture and it not happening. They won't believe in THAT God anymore. You should really be careful in teaching some things as fact, that in the end, may be the very thing that turns them away from God. Your words, not Gods.
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My very welcome?
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I think the rapture is a very dangerous thing to teach people.
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That's dumb.

For anyone to say that hey, everything will be just peachy, you don't have to worry about anything in these days we're in,
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Who says any such thing??
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Church is no place for a real Christian. But then you bedroom christians know what I'm talking about and you church christians don't. If the authorities don't knock on your door someday and take you away then you should really be worried about your salvation. Yeshua is king.
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Are you a real Christian?
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you need to clarify whether you mean rapture all together or pre-trib rapture..because i know not one Christian that "hates" rapture or denies it..but pre-trib rapture is not the same
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What if you are wrong?
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Wrong about what?
If there is no Rapture or it does not happen in my lifetime??
Then I die.
So what?
The rapture has NOTHING to do whatsoever with someone's salvation. So WHY WHY WHY do so MANY of you so called Christians FIERCELY, like you are possessed or something, HAVE to tell people that if they're saved they will be raptured?
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If the Rapture is true, Jesus would not leave His Faithful behind when He takes those He says are His.
Why when you KNOW so many Christians don't believe it will happen like you say, yet you spread that demon lie like it's a part of salvation?
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Demon lie?

I believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, King of the Jews.

Do you?
In doing so, YOU make it part of salvation! And because of YOU, MANY will turn from God at that time. They will either say it was bs so God must be a lie, or they will for the first the EVER have to think about havi g to actually DIE for their belief.
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Scripture says that some will come to understand what is happening when it is happening before their eyes and they will know it and then they will come to believe but most likely at the cost of their lives.

Does this bother you so fiercely also?

Perhaps, if you are so lucky, you will remain alive and have your chance to prove your faith as you insist.
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So if you believe you will meet Jesus when the Rapture-hater believes he will see Jesus

you are good and true like the Rapture-hater,

but if you believe you will meet Jesus just a little bit earlier

then you are the most despicable rotten evil satanic filth imaginable and worth every condemnation and personal insult.


Now how could that possibly be? It simply is not true.

Those that believe the Rapture is true do not condemn those that do not believe that the Rapture is true.

Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.

Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.

The show nothing but contempt for those that do.

Draw your own conclusion.
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Whats not to hate?

God hates LIARS.

God also hate those who make HIM out to be a LIAR TOO.

And all these threads CLAIMED GOD TOLD THEM...THUS MAKING GOD OUT TO BE A LIAR.

RAPTURE FAILS SINCE 2004

2004

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Thread: THE RAPTURE HAS IT BEGUN

Thread: 43 million Americans *gone*-is this the rapture?


2005

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Thread: Tomorrow, Rapture?

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Thread: The RAPTURE will happen in 36.345 hrs

Thread: RAPTURE TIME IS NEXT ----- Does UP implie the Rapture? YES

2006

Thread: Christian Alert: the Rapture & Who are Born of God

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Thread: Has WW3 Been Cancelled? Is the Tribulation Around the Corner ?Does This War Signal The Rapture Is Imminent?

Thread: ALERT: *** URGENT *** RAPTURE

2007

Thread: RAPTURE BEFORE SEPTEMBER 14TH...LINKS

Thread: Ascension, The Rapture, Call It What You Like But Its Beginning Is Immediate

Thread: RAPTURE BEFORE SEPT 14

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Thread: RAPTURE alert! May 17 2007

Thread: Many Christians think that the Rapture may happen this year; 2007. Either at Ascension Day (May 14, 2007) or at Feast of Trumpets (September 13, 2007

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Thread: Rapture Clock : 3:17 am = March 17, 2007

Thread: 2007 rapture!!!

Thread: Rapture within 2 weeks!!!

Thread: So... Is the day after tomorow... the Day of Rapture ?

2008

Thread: The "Rapture" date has been Established, and is now made known to the “elect” who trust in the Name of the LORD of Spirits

Thread: RAPTURE SEPTMEMBER 2008 (VID)

Thread: New date for Rapture: Oct. 23, 2008

Thread: RAPTURE SEPTMEMBER 2008 ***PROOF***

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Thread: Rapture, Dec.21,2008?

Thread: Rapture, Dec.21,2008?

Thread: WHY THE RAPTURE WILL BE ON YOM KIPPUR

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2009

Thread: 6 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

Thread: 7 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

Thread: 8 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

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Thread: June 7, 2009 - RAPTURE?

Thread: I'm a christian and I believe the rapture will be this year(2009)

Thread: RAPTURE COULD OCCUR APRIL 11 2009...

Thread: NEW UPDATE: RAPTURE COULD OCCUR ON APRIL 11 2009...

Thread: RAPTURE in June 2009 (Possibility)

Thread: THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH VERY SOON!!!

Thread: Rapture for America in just days_20-21 set Sept

Thread: Rapture Ready web site/Pre-trib Promoters Trying to Control the Thinking of Christians Who Don't Disappear?

Thread: The Rapture of the Church will not happen this year ! I can prove it !

Thread: RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH CONFIRM BY GOD

Thread: The RAPTURE is COMING! Get in the Ark NOW while you can!!!

Thread: Rapture is 11/11/09 - Prepare

2010

Thread: The RAPTURE will occur Sept.9/10, 2010!

Thread: RAPTURE *********** 9-11-2010 Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah/Rosh Hashanah) September 11, 2010

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Thread: ^+, !HEBREW YEAR 5770 RAPTURE CODE SACRED CALENDAR 3/17/2010 thru 4/18/2011! ,+^

Thread: FINAL WARNING - SUDDEN DESTRUCTION / RAPTURE Oct. 19, 2010

Thread: WARNING: Rapture of the Two Witnesses to occur on December 22th, 2010, prioe to e big nuclear event.

Thread: *** RAPTURE ON BLOOD RED MOON 2010 ***

Thread: March 2010- Start of the Tribulation, Biblical Rapture revealing of the Antichrist?

Thread: No so-called "rapture in 2010 but next year (2011) at this time shall be very interesting!

Thread: July 30th 2010 The rapture window opens

Thread: Something to keep a major eye on: Wheat Harvest Rapture by Tu B’Av 2010?

Thread: WARNING>>MAY 10, 2010>>DOOM, RAPTURE,DISCLOSURE<<<MAY 10, 2010<<WARNING

Thread: 2010 rapture

Thread: 5 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

Thread: 6 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

Thread: 7 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

Thread: 8 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

2011

Thread: May 21, 2011 is Judgment Day, The Rapture, and The End Of All Hope.

Thread: Rapture Imminent! As World EVENTS Unfold!

Thread: the RAPTURE event - why it may occur in the next couple of weeks.

Thread: MAY 21st is REAL!!..JUDMENT COMES AND RAPTURE WILL HAPPEN!!..DONT DARE MOCK OR YOU WILL PAY!

Thread: RAPTURE THIS YEAR..UNDENIABLE PROOF!! DEBUNK THIS YEARS ROSH HASHANAH!!

Thread: RAPTURE discussion thread for those who will be raptured.....no unraptured allowed!

Thread: Rosh Hoshanna on Sept 29th and Comet Elenin passing by maybe a possible Rapture coming?

Thread: The Rapture is coming October 21st

Thread: 3 days left until the rapture

Thread: If you want a more standard Rapture Date how about April 19-20 , 2011- But of course the real date is May 21st !!

Thread: Can We Know When? Can we know the timing of the rapture and the end of the age?

Thread: MAY 21st IS THE FIRST DAY WE CAN SEE NIBIRU WITH THE NAKED EYE. "THE RAPTURE"

Thread: Harold Camping Oct. 21 Rapture: God Stopped Saving People in May, Family Radio Says

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Thread: **********MYSTEREY BOOMS*****THE SEVEN THUNDERS of REVELATION......and RAPTURE

Thread: RED ALERT! THE CORRECT DATES FOR WW3, SUDDEN DESTRUCTION, AND THE RAPTURE!!! DEFCON 4 THE FINAL SIGN GIVEN ON 1/8/2012!!

Thread: URGENT RAPTURE MESSAGE 2011



2012

Thread: Number's Confirm...Jesus Returns In=212 (2012) Year of Rapture Was=212 (Man of Sin Revealed=212 (2012)

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Thread: *Watchers* July 15th is a DAY to WATCH for RAPTURE and JUDGEMENT on EARTH

Thread: DOW Drop 777.68....4 Years Later....HERE WE ARE!!! Rosh Hashanah 2012 RAPTURE.

Thread: SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF 2012 ASCENSION / RAPTURE EVENT CAUSED BY SOLAR FLARE

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Thread: Why we are the *Last Generation* and the Rapture will happen Rosh Hashana 2012

Thread: Could the Rapture happen in 2012.mp4

Thread: Rapture of the Church - October 7, 2012, last day of the Feast of Tabernacles

Thread: DOW Drop 777.68....4 Years Later....HERE WE ARE!!! Rosh Hashanah 2012 RAPTURE.

Thread: SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF 2012 ASCENSION / RAPTURE EVENT CAUSED BY SOLAR FLARE

Thread: The *RAPTURE is coming the SUN will be going dark....Prepare to meet the LORD!

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Re: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians
Those that believe the Rapture is true do not condemn those that do not believe that the Rapture is true.
Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture is true.
Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.
The show nothing but contempt for those that do.
Draw your own conclusion.

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Re: Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians
I believe Jesus Christ.

I believe the Rapture to be entirely consistent Scriptural Truth.




For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:10



In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son-0f-Man.


Luke 21:35,36


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me
;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell the on earth.


Revelation 3:10


For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 5:9
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“For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the Tribulation that is to come,
and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins”



Ephraem the Syrian, A.D. 373



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The J***sh Wedding - Chuck Missler


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A J****sh wedding and the pre-tribulation rapture


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The Rapture. . Chuck Missler


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Chuck Missler on Harpazo: Rapture vs Second Coming, Post-Trib Problems, Premillennialism


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Post Tribulation Problems - Chuck Missler


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