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Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians

 
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In my opinion,

in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,

those that hate The Rapture

and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,

are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming

but, quite the contrary,

their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it

are evidence of its Truthfulness.



Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ

that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ

because those believers in Jesus Christ

believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier

than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe

and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...
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It has to do with the deadly sins, they are committing quite a few there.
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Preach it Brother.... or Sister!
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So if you believe you will meet Jesus when the Rapture-hater believes he will see Jesus

you are good and true like the Rapture-hater,

but if you believe you will meet Jesus just a little bit earlier

then you are the most despicable rotten evil satanic filth imaginable and worth every condemnation and personal insult.


Now how could that possibly be? It simply is not true.

Those that believe the Rapture is true do not condemn those that do not believe that the Rapture is true.

Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.

Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.

The show nothing but contempt for those that do.

Draw your own conclusion.
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I hate when people change Gods word and try to make it say something it does not. God "hates" it too.
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I hate when people change Gods word and try to make it say something it does not. God "hates" it too.
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to give OP some ammo....

Thread: To All Post-Tribulation Christians

A post from my past persona SPAWN... before it was "suicided" GLP mods... lol

Last Edited by S.O.S. on 08/05/2015 02:14 AM
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I have been told I was not a christian for not believing taken away. I have reasons to not to believe it, Jesus words, hold fast til the end, he will be with us, now, how many Christians have been murdered for their faith, thousands upon thousands since Jesus left this world, did the disciples get taken out or did they die a horrible death?

No, it has not happen this way, nor was it said in this way, the first time it was mention was in the Roman Catholic church only once, then by Darby, it was not written to mean to that a small few words and make of it something Jesus did not say.

At a point in time we will be changed in a twinkling of the eye. You will also be changed in the twinkling of the eye after you pass from this world. Do you fear death? You do have an eternal soul and it will get a new one that will never decay.

I do not want you to miss the importance of believing something that just maybe totally wrong, and you find you find there is not rapture and you loss faith, Hold fast to the faith to the very end, no matter what, Jesus was crucified, he did not die, he got a new body, see the importance of this part.

You have a home which is not here, it is a shadow world, the real one is with GOD.

Rapture is a word like being full of faith, the Holy Spirit fills you with joy and you are a changed person. It reveal truth.

Just go study it, just don't lose faith if what you believe does not happen, that is a worry about people who believe something with not much in the way of sound doctrine, lots of things, have gotten into Religions, but they are man made not God made, Jesus brought the Good News not a new religion it was the finish of what God had planned not man.

It would not hurt my feel to be taken out, I am willing but if you are not are you willing to hold fast till the end even it you have to go through even torture. Think of the children getting kill because they will not deny Christ. That is all, I think no less of you, just worry that you could lose faith, and it is a minor thing which Jesus did not say and could very will be something some one in history of Religions took a liking to. Do not mean that got it right, mistakes happen, go and check out what and how it came into being.

I just do as Jesus said, all these things will come to pass.

Hold fast till the end. Don't be found without being prepared to meet him. If you are always ready, do not sweat the small things. Don't go around sinning and not repenting.

Have a congregation of believer, more that a religion of man, ( make rules God did not write or say). It is all in the New Testament how it is set up, how it works, it is a church only when the church are gathered. Those are the people which are the temple of God, Holy Ghost filled believers, are the temple of God. Jesus, died and in three days the temple was built, he was raise from the dead. This is by the Holy Spirit of God, he left and breathed the Spirit into the apostles, when he left the Holy Ghost fell on the people there and they were filled. This is in the Bible. This is the truth for all to know.
Sorry I got a headache

These are the times that tries men's and
women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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Do you tards understand what is the reward for prophesying falsely?
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There will be no Rapture. No one gets out alive.
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The second coming of christ is the blessed hope of the believer being gathered together with the lord forever

But the modern rapture doctrine is a deception written by the Catholic church to deceive the world and the true church
To look for a future antichrist and to cover up the fact the papacy is that man of sin the antichrist.

And so in view of the fact the man if sin is revealed
The catching away could happen at any moment,
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Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.

Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.

The show nothing but contempt for those that do.

Draw your own conclusion.
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Because those that believe in the pre-trib rapture have cost the lives of millions and millions of innocent people and even worse fellow Christians.

You are Israeli firsters and support war against humanity via the insane Satanic neo-cons. You are self-serving, self-centered and serve no useful purpose if all you want to do is save your own ass from suffering.

.
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I smell a "no true scotsman" fallacy..
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I have one question for you OP.

If Christ was offered a rapture in his time, what would his response to the Father be?

Would he plead with the Father to stay (for those who KNOW NOT BETTER yet), to spread the gospel, so the luke warm, the stragglers, so all may be saved?

Curb your fear brother, there is none in Christ and never was as he suffered in full power without reaction in the acts of man and the wicked.
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You are evil.
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"Dear friends, I urge you as aliens and temporary residents not to give in to the desires of your old nature, which keep warring against you; but to live such good lives among the pagans that even though they now speak against you as evil-doers, they will, as a result of seeing your good actions, give glory to God on the Day of his coming." [1 Peter 2:11,12]
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Judas was a follower, who was a coward in fear. Where do you stand.
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We, the true followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, are active participants in the sounding of the Trumpet.

For we read:

"...since we have the same Spirit of faith, according to what is written, “I believed and therefore I spoke,” we also believe and therefore speak, knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you." [2 Cor.4:13,14]

The Spirit of faith [that is, the Holy Spirit] from the Father, dwelling within the Lord, enabled Him to believe, and therefore speak the Word of God, over three Days, resulting in His resurrection on First-fruits! The Lord spoke the Word of God from the heart of the earth [Matt.12:40], where His Soul was located, after the death of His body on the cross, on the 3rd of April 33 AD, on Passover.

Now we know why Paul quoted Psalm 116 verse 10:

"I believed, therefore I spoke..."

For that passage then goes on to say:

“I am greatly afflicted.” I said in my haste, “All men are liars.” What shall I render to the Lord For all His benefits toward me? I will take up the cup of salvation, And call upon the name of the Lord." [Psalm 116:10-13]

Do you see it? We have the same Spirit of faith. And are to call on the name of the Lord from the Day of Pentecost! It's now evident that the Great and Awesome Day of the Lord is not Pentecost itself. Being the Day we begin to sound the Trumpet! The Great and Awesome Day of the Lord will come when we receive our glorified bodies!

"The sun shall be turned into darkness [on the 30th of March 2015], And the moon into blood [on the 4th of April 2015], Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord [from the 17th of July 2015, on Pentecost] Shall be saved [that is, shall receive a glorified body]." [Acts 2:20,21][words in bracket are mine]

If we're practicing righteousness, we're spiritually awake [that is, we're watching] and by the Spirit of God within us, participate in the sounding of the Trumpet, as we pray in the Spirit, along with the saints who are to be resurrected, by the power of God!

"Awake to righteousness, and do not sin..." [1 Cor.15:34]

"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end [that is, practice righteousness for this reason] with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints..." [Eph.6:17,18]

"...the end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers." [1 Pet.4:7]

The Trumpet is the voice of the Lord. Through the Holy Spirit, we speak the voice of the Lord, when we pray in tongues, and when we use our own lips to speak out the Word of God! This is how we are calling on the name of the Lord NOW!

"I [that is, I John] was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last..." [Rev.1:10,11]

"...Jeremiah said...Please, obey the voice of the Lord which I speak to you. So it shall be well with you, and your soul shall live." [Jer.38:20]

We now know that on the 17th of July 2015 [Day 29 Month 4 Year 6000], on Pentecost, the sounding of the First Trumpet took place!

[link to creationcalendar.com]

The Trumpet will continue to sound each Day as saints all over the World continue to call on the name of the Lord!

The billion dollar question then is, when will the Last Trumpet sound?

"...We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the Last Trumpet. For the Trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." [1 Cor.15:51,52]

The following dream was posted on a Youtube channel:

"I too was shown a rapture dream over 3 years ago that it would take place in between a blue Moon phase [That is, 2 full Moons in one Month]. Not given a day or hour, but confirmed with another brother in Christ, that the time period would be on the seventh month of the [Gregorian] calendar. This year there is a full moon on the 2nd and 31st of July. Next one is in 2018, but I believe we would be in the Tribulation by then, so this is it! Listen for the trumpet call and look up brothers and sisters, for our redemption is near!"

I now believe this dream only confirms that the First Trumpet did indeed sound on the 17th of July 2015!

The Last Trumpet that will bring into manifestation the translation of our bodies, however, hasn't sounded yet!

Will the Last Trumpet sound on any Day within this Jubilee Year, that ends on the 15th of September 2015 [Day 30 Month 6 Year 6000]?

Will the Last Trumpet sound on Rosh Hashanah, the 16th of September 2015 [Day 1 Month 7 Year 6001]?

Or will the Last Trumpet sound on the Last Day of the Feast of Tabernacles, on the 7th of October 2015 [Day 22 Month 7 Year 6001]

[link to www.torahcalendar.com]

Whatever the case,

"Stay alert, always praying that you will have the strength to escape all the things that will happen and to stand in the presence of the Son of Man." [Luke 21:36]

Brothers and Sisters in Christ check out the following dream posted by a fellow servant of the Lord, and be encouraged!



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You are evil.
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"Dear friends, I urge you as aliens and temporary residents not to give in to the desires of your old nature, which keep warring against you; but to live such good lives among the pagans that even though they now speak against you as evil-doers, they will, as a result of seeing your good actions, give glory to God on the Day of his coming." [1 Peter 2:11,12]
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Amen, praise bother Peter and you for presenting his works in the right moment for those walking dead in faith.
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There will be no Rapture. No one gets out alive.
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Enoch and Elijah did.
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Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.

Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.

The show nothing but contempt for those that do.

Draw your own conclusion.
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Because those that believe in the pre-trib rapture have cost the lives of millions and millions of innocent people and even worse fellow Christians.

You are Israeli firsters and support war against humanity via the insane Satanic neo-cons. You are self-serving, self-centered and serve no useful purpose if all you want to do is save your own ass from suffering.

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Are you good

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The second coming of christ is the blessed hope of the believer being gathered together with the lord forever

But the modern rapture doctrine is a deception written by the Catholic church to deceive the world and the true church
To look for a future antichrist and to cover up the fact the papacy is that man of sin the antichrist.

And so in view of the fact the man if sin is revealed
The catching away could happen at any moment,
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Catholics don't believe in the rapture; they are amillennialists. It is the rapture believers who have always exposed the RCC as the harlot on the beast, and the pope as the false prophet.

You have all your facts wrong and are just trying to smear us with lies. We who believe the Bible teaches the rapture are AGAINST the RCC.
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there is no such thing as the Rapture stop believing in tooth fairies Protestants wake the hell up
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Because those that believe in the pre-trib rapture have cost the lives of millions and millions of innocent people and even worse fellow Christians.

You are Israeli firsters and support war against humanity via the insane Satanic neo-cons. You are self-serving, self-centered and serve no useful purpose if all you want to do is save your own ass from suffering.

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LIES. False accusations. Slander.

It is the haters of the pre-trib rapture who cost lives, because of all the slander and false bravado. You think you'll be some super-soldier Christian who battles the forces of evil and survives by your strength and cunning. So you lead people to trust themselves rather than God. You are setting people up to fail.

Self-serving etc? That's YOU, who rely on YOURSELF to endure and overcome. Such hypocrisy and blindness!
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You are self-serving, self-centered and serve no useful purpose if all you want to do is save your own ass from suffering.

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You just called Jesus a lot of bad things, because He said, "Pray that you may ESCAPE all these things".
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People want to fight about a rapture that may or may not happen. How does this conversation look to an unbeliever who might read it. Christ right now is the answer, not some event in the future that may or may not happen.
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People want to fight about a rapture that may or may not happen. How does this conversation look to an unbeliever who might read it. Christ right now is the answer, not some event in the future that may or may not happen.
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If haters of pre-trib would just STOP, we could discuss it like civilized people. All the hate is coming from one side. If you really care about our reputation, complain to the haters. And if you think Jesus is better served if we make ourselves the punching bags of people claiming to be fellow believers, then you'll just have to be disappointed.

"Some event in the future" is what Jesus commanded we WATCH for. It WILL happen.
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People want to fight about a rapture that may or may not happen. How does this conversation look to an unbeliever who might read it. Christ right now is the answer, not some event in the future that may or may not happen.
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If haters of pre-trib would just STOP, we could discuss it like civilized people. All the hate is coming from one side. If you really care about our reputation, complain to the haters. And if you think Jesus is better served if we make ourselves the punching bags of people claiming to be fellow believers, then you'll just have to be disappointed.

"Some event in the future" is what Jesus commanded we WATCH for. It WILL happen.
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Was Jesus a "punching bag" ? Did He speak out against His accusers? How many times was Paul whipped for serving Christ? Did Paul complain or accuse?

Personally I have no idea if the rapture will happen or not, and I don't care either. I am right with God, so either way is fine with me.
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You are self-serving, self-centered and serve no useful purpose if all you want to do is save your own ass from suffering.

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You just called Jesus a lot of bad things, because He said, "Pray that you may ESCAPE all these things".
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You just damned yourself. Jesus said to Pray and nothing else. Where did he say to work for Satan and vote in and support insane pedophiles and crazy war-mongers to bomb millions of innocent people just so you can speed up the process of Armageddon?

Maybe....just maybe you are to pray in order to get some wisdom to support real god fearing people to avoid "hell on earth". No you have to have hell on earth in order for your "rapture" to come true. so you pursue evil....you support evil. You are evil.


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Thread: The RAPTURE could happen between today and tomorrow. Are you ready? (Page 13)

Semi-important question here, guys
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I'm not a rapture hater I just dont know where you get it from


The bible says it will be as it was in the days of noah..


when the wicked will be taken off of the earth.


Then the book of Revelation 16 even tells us how.


The Plagues!
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The second coming of christ is the blessed hope of the believer being gathered together with the lord forever

But the modern rapture doctrine is a deception written by the Catholic church to deceive the world and the true church
To look for a future antichrist and to cover up the fact the papacy is that man of sin the antichrist.

And so in view of the fact the man if sin is revealed
The catching away could happen at any moment,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68683914


Catholics don't believe in the rapture; they are amillennialists. It is the rapture believers who have always exposed the RCC as the harlot on the beast, and the pope as the false prophet.

You have all your facts wrong and are just trying to smear us with lies. We who believe the Bible teaches the rapture are AGAINST the RCC.
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Most of the post tribbers seem to be undercover catholics imho. That guy Steven L. Anderson for example that is one of the main proponents of the post trib heresy.

Also a whole bunch of nazis that pretend to be Christians are big post tribbers. Most of the post tribbers really really really hate Israel.

Another good sign something is seriously wrong with them.

Anyway here's some material supporting the Pre Tribulation Rapture of the Bride of Christ:

A playlist that answers basically all the objections from the post tribbers:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

A good sermon on the subject:
Biblical Evidence of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture - Revelation 1:19
[link to www.psalm118.org]
and another:
Evidences of the Pre-tribulation Rapture
[link to www.psalm118.org]
and this deals with the subject too:
Why God is Not Done With The Jews - Romans 9:4-5
[link to www.psalm118.org]

and another sermon on the subject:
Mysteries of God: The Rapture
[link to www.goodpreachin.com]
Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com]
Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net]
The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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