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Colorado River pollution - BAD NEWS for Hoover Dam, Lake Mead and the West Coast drought

 
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Colorado River pollution - BAD NEWS for Hoover Dam, Lake Mead and the West Coast drought
Once the pollution makes it to Lake Mead, a series of events will unfold that will affect the entire West Coast.

I live in Boulder City, where Hoover Dam and Lake Mead are located. My father worked at Hoover Dam for the Department of Water and Power and retired in 2000. He's told me some VERY interesting facts about what will happen once that water reaches Lake Mead.

Lake Mead is an artificially created lake that was designed to back up water from the Colorado river into a reservoir that could be used for drinking water, power, agriculture and to also be piped to California for the same uses.

Because of the major drought that California is experiencing, the Lake Mead water level is dwindling and is expected to dry up within years if it continues to drop at the same rate. California relies heavily on Lake Mead water; especially Los Angeles.

The government will have the opportunity of stopping the spread of the pollution at Hoover Dam by simply turning off the flow of water from Lake Mead to the Colorado River. This will set off a series of events.

Electricity flowing from Hoover Dam will come to a halt, causing power outages to Las Vegas and many other local cities.

Water will cease to continue down the Colorado River, causing most of the agriculture to dry up at all the remaining states the river flows through; including its final destination - Mexico.

The major source of drinking water for Las Vegas and surrounding cities will no longer be usable, and all water related services dependent upon Lake Mead will be useless.

Tourism to Las Vegas will greatly decrease when tourists know that contaminated orange water will likely be coming out of their shower heads and out of their faucets. Imagine the Bellagio fountains spewing toxic orange water in the air!

These just in themselves are major disruptions in power, water, food and economy. If you think the drought is bad now on the West Coast, imagine that without any of the support of Lake Meads resources.

Is there any precedent with cleaning a spill like this? Can any of the same technology from the recent oil spills be used to clean this mess before it causes irreparable damages?

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Based on this assessment, it sounds like an inside job to ruin the fresh water supply.

Who is the billionaire Texan that bought all the land rights for "windmills" a few years ago. Under all that land is a large aquifer.
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What has the EPA unleashed?...criminal charges need to be brought against everyone involved in this disaster. This is just horrible. tissue
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Las Vegas gets its power from coal...not lake mead.
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I am beginning to think that this "accident" was on purpose. I think the drought in California is going to continue. I believe the climatologists believe that it's going to continue. This will force people out of the area much faster. At least that's my theory anyway
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It was dumped into the Animas River, in Colorado, not the Colorado River. As near as I can tell, it doesn't come anywhere near the Colorado river. It has crossed into New Mexico but, it's still hundreds of miles east of the Colorado.
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Las Vegas gets its power from coal...not lake mead.
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The main beneficiaries of Hoover Dam electricity are in fact Arizona and California. Las Vegas only receives a small portion of that electricity.

Hoover Dam provides about 355 megawatts to the Nevada Power system. Contrary to popular opinion, Las Vegas does not get most of its power from the dam. It also does not get most of the power produced at the dam. California and Arizona get most of the dam's generated power.

Natural gas-fired power plants typically supply two-thirds of Nevada's net electricity generation. Coal-fired plants supply about one-seventh of the state's net generation, and renewable energy sources, mainly geothermal and hydroelectric power plants, supply the rest. Minimizing the use of scarce water in conventional generation is a priority for Nevada. One of the state's largest generating plants, NV Energy's Chuck Lenzie station, uses high-efficiency natural gas combined-cycle technology, recycles three-fourths of used water, and, to reduce water use, employs one of North America's largest air-cooled condenser systems.

About 3 in 10 Nevada households use electricity as their primary home heating source. Electricity consumption is led by the industrial sector, which uses more than one-third of the electric power consumed, with residential usage close behind. Electricity consumption per capita is near the national average. However, Nevada's electricity consumption exceeds in-state generation, and the state obtains needed electricity over high-voltage transmission lines from Arizona and the Pacific Northwest.

Nevada has two separate power grids. One power grid supplies the Las Vegas area with grid ties to Arizona, southern Utah, and California. The other power grid supplies communities in the northern part of the state, including Elko and Reno. The northern grid is tied into Idaho, northern Utah, and northern California. Three transmission projects running the length of the state, through the eastern desert from Idaho to Las Vegas, now connect the two grids. New transmission is also planned elsewhere in the state to facilitate development of electricity generation projects that will be fueled by either natural gas or renewable sources. Several large-scale transmission projects for the delivery of renewable power to the West Coast are routed through Nevada. Those projects include the TransWest Express, agreed to in 2005 by four western state governors, as well as upgrades of existing transmission lines. The lines will also enhance Nevada's power supplies.

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It was dumped into the Animas River, in Colorado, not the Colorado River. As near as I can tell, it doesn't come anywhere near the Colorado river. It has crossed into New Mexico but, it's still hundreds of miles east of the Colorado.
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Because rivers don’t respect borders, the EPA is also working with the New Mexico Environment Department to evaluate effects downstream. Oh, and even more excitingly, the Animas River feeds into the San Juan river, which feeds into the Colorado, which supplies water to much of the West.

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This event is bad but nowhere near the doom catastrophe you make it out to be. 3 million gallons is a drop in the bucket compared to the watershed volume.
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Vegas recycles and treats their own water.
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It was dumped into the Animas River, in Colorado, not the Colorado River. As near as I can tell, it doesn't come anywhere near the Colorado river. It has crossed into New Mexico but, it's still hundreds of miles east of the Colorado.
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haha, op is full of shit.
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Vegas recycles and treats their own water.
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“Recycled water” is a term the SNWA uses often to imply progress in the face of the massive headwinds of climate change and just general being-in-the-desert-ness. But recycled water is still water, and its ultimate source is still Lake Mead and the Colorado River, in the case of Vegas."

According to Bureau of Reclamation data as of June 2, there’s never been so little water behind Hoover Dam since its construction in the 1930s. That’s a problem, because Vegas gets 90 percent of its water from Lake Mead.

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It was dumped into the Animas River, in Colorado, not the Colorado River. As near as I can tell, it doesn't come anywhere near the Colorado river. It has crossed into New Mexico but, it's still hundreds of miles east of the Colorado.
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haha, op is full of shit.
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The fluorescent sludge, moving at 5 mph, kept going, reaching Farmington and Aztec, N.M., on Saturday as it headed for the San Juan River, Lake Powell and the Colorado River.

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It was dumped into the Animas River, in Colorado, not the Colorado River. As near as I can tell, it doesn't come anywhere near the Colorado river. It has crossed into New Mexico but, it's still hundreds of miles east of the Colorado.
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haha, op is full of shit.
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The fluorescent sludge, moving at 5 mph, kept going, reaching Farmington and Aztec, N.M., on Saturday as it headed for the San Juan River, Lake Powell and the Colorado River.

[link to www.latimes.com]
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Once the pollution makes it to Lake Mead, a series of events will unfold that will affect the entire West Coast.

I live in Boulder City, where Hoover Dam and Lake Mead are located. My father worked at Hoover Dam for the Department of Water and Power and retired in 2000. He's told me some VERY interesting facts about what will happen once that water reaches Lake Mead.

Lake Mead is an artificially created lake that was designed to back up water from the Colorado river into a reservoir that could be used for drinking water, power, agriculture and to also be piped to California for the same uses.

Because of the major drought that California is experiencing, the Lake Mead water level is dwindling and is expected to dry up within years if it continues to drop at the same rate. California relies heavily on Lake Mead water; especially Los Angeles.

The government will have the opportunity of stopping the spread of the pollution at Hoover Dam by simply turning off the flow of water from Lake Mead to the Colorado River. This will set off a series of events.

Electricity flowing from Hoover Dam will come to a halt, causing power outages to Las Vegas and many other local cities.

Water will cease to continue down the Colorado River, causing most of the agriculture to dry up at all the remaining states the river flows through; including its final destination - Mexico.

The major source of drinking water for Las Vegas and surrounding cities will no longer be usable, and all water related services dependent upon Lake Mead will be useless.

Tourism to Las Vegas will greatly decrease when tourists know that contaminated orange water will likely be coming out of their shower heads and out of their faucets. Imagine the Bellagio fountains spewing toxic orange water in the air!

These just in themselves are major disruptions in power, water, food and economy. If you think the drought is bad now on the West Coast, imagine that without any of the support of Lake Meads resources.

Is there any precedent with cleaning a spill like this? Can any of the same technology from the recent oil spills be used to clean this mess before it causes irreparable damages?
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It was dumped into the Animas River, in Colorado, not the Colorado River. As near as I can tell, it doesn't come anywhere near the Colorado river. It has crossed into New Mexico but, it's still hundreds of miles east of the Colorado.
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haha, op is full of shit.
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No, you guys are in denial.

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Can anyone estimate when the sludge will reach the Hoover Dam area?
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Based on this assessment, it sounds like an inside job to ruin the fresh water supply.

Who is the billionaire Texan that bought all the land rights for "windmills" a few years ago. Under all that land is a large aquifer.
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And where is the Jade Helm exercise located? In most of the same area's where the fresh water supply's are ruined!
Makes you go hmmmmm!scratching

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From the international currency "wars".
To the constant sandbox training areas in ME.
Domestic political agendas.
Domestic corporate agendas.
Domestic "training operations" to remove and sabotage.
Intent to divide and concur through race wars.

There is so much happening.



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Can anyone estimate when the sludge will reach the Hoover Dam area?
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kinda makes you wonder if this was done on purpose.
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Can anyone estimate when the sludge will reach the Hoover Dam area?
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538 miles from the Animas River to Lake Mead, moving at roughly 5 mph.

That's 120 miles per day, that would be between 4-5 days.
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Can anyone estimate when the sludge will reach the Hoover Dam area?
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538 miles from the Animas River to Lake Mead, moving at roughly 5 mph.

That's 120 miles per day, that would be between 4-5 days.
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Vegas recycles and treats their own water.
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Based on this assessment, it sounds like an inside job to ruin the fresh water supply.

Who is the billionaire Texan that bought all the land rights for "windmills" a few years ago. Under all that land is a large aquifer.
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T. Boone Pickens, I think.
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