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Cathy O'Brien and her handler Mark Phillips have apparently kidnapped a young girl named Shaela Miller and are mind controlling her.

 
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I'm guessing the Brazil guy is Mark under a proxy, he seems hellbent on ruining this thread but it's not working.

ENJOY JAIL soon enough.
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Why am I going to jail??
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Why do you say some people are liars that have been abused??? that's all I want to know. I don't care if you and Cathy might be having marital problems and things could get messy, or that you guys and for some reason Brice who was also abused don't get along. I don't get how people that have this shit happen to them end up fighting each other..that makes others hurt even worse. and I know the WORST thing in the world to say to someone who has been abused is that they haven't.
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Because they're competing for book sales, is why. I don't believe any of them were abused by any government officials... possibly abused by a family member or other, hence them being such screwed up people, but I don't believe all of these famous people were involved. Don't take that as a cue, that I mean famous people / politicians are nice people, I just think that writing about being sexually abused by unknown people wont sell as many books. You decide to name famous people - esp politicians (who people don't trust), then it attracts attention, which is good for business.

If these people really were sex slaves of the rich and famous, and especially how dangerous they are believed to be, I highly doubt they'd live to tell the tale.
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So it's all about looking out for number one, then???

Even the ones that have been abused just jump right into the abusing of others..

and then scream out LIAR at the ones that are either still going through it or dealing with it..because they have no money for their profit agenda.

sometimes I think it's always everyone just worshipping money.

But the thing is, enough children HAVE been raped by people in power to know they are telling the truth. they didn't murder all of them.

and when those kids see others come forward and what happens to them..

well many of them just don't bother to come forward themselves. it's just not worth it to be called a liar.
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So it's all about looking out for number one, then???

Even the ones that have been abused just jump right into the abusing of others..

and then scream out LIAR at the ones that are either still going through it or dealing with it..because they have no money for their profit agenda.

sometimes I think it's always everyone just worshipping money.

But the thing is, enough children HAVE been raped by people in power to know they are telling the truth. they didn't murder all of them.

and when those kids see others come forward and what happens to them..

well many of them just don't bother to come forward themselves. it's just not worth it to be called a liar.
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Don't get me wrong here, I do believe politicians and other famous people could be capable of such things (many of these kids are believed to have been murdered so they can't speak out). But I also believe that screwed up opportunists make up lies so that they can make money, too, especially when they start spinning a crazy web about aliens and all sorts of other bizarre shit. Stuff like this is a niche market which makes money, and they know it.

BTW regarding the 'witch face' carved into Cathy's vagina - self mutilation is very common among those with personality disorders (esp MPD / BPD). I believe she did this to herself, (as hard as that might be to believe to a normal person).
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She didn't do it to herself, nor did she do it willingly.

I just want to hear from Mark himself since he is posting here, and am not interested in stupid troll like you.

I have read Tranceformation of America, and I saw a long youtube from the late 70's or early 80's I think when her and Mark first started coming forward, and have seen the one where she spoke at the Free Your Mind conference in 2013.

I have yet to find online and read a full copy of "Thanks for the Memories", nor have I watched any interview by her I don't think.

I've also read [link to www.whale.to]

about mind control, and this:
[link to freeyourbrain.tripod.com]

ALL THIS STUFF IS REAL, SO I DON'T GET IT WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH SHIT CALL OTHERS LIARS, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF MARK IS CALLING SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN RAPED AS A CHILD A LIAR.
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She didn't do it to herself, nor did she do it willingly.

I just want to hear from Mark himself since he is posting here, and am not interested in stupid troll like you.

I have read Tranceformation of America, and I saw a long youtube from the late 70's or early 80's I think when her and Mark first started coming forward, and have seen the one where she spoke at the Free Your Mind conference in 2013.

I have yet to find online and read a full copy of "Thanks for the Memories", nor have I watched any interview by her I don't think.

I've also read [link to www.whale.to]

about mind control, and this:
[link to freeyourbrain.tripod.com]

ALL THIS STUFF IS REAL, SO I DON'T GET IT WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH SHIT CALL OTHERS LIARS, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF MARK IS CALLING SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN RAPED AS A CHILD A LIAR.
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


She didn't do it to herself willingly? And you have evidence of this? Was you there when her supposed abusers did this to her vagina? No, you only have her word for that. Therefore, the fact that you believe in something without evidence, means you are gullible. The fact is, she has openly admitted she has a personality disorder, genital mutilation is typical of a disordered person. If you don't believe me, do the research for yourself.

And as for the rest of their claims, they don't have a shred of evidence to back any of it up. So she says Cheney has a giant dick, a photographer happened to snap a bulge in his pants... something which would have been noticeable in numerous televised appearances or perhaps other photos.

Look at that James Casbolt guy as an example; he has been diagnosed with persistent delusional disorder, and he got locked up for trying to blackmail his ex into giving him millions, not to mention stalking females in the street. if you cross reference the material from Trance and Casbolt's writings, they are remarkably similar in theme and detail. Such writings / claims are typical of a person with a serious personality disorder.

Now, unless these people can provide any hard evidence to support everything they have wrote and talked about, then they are nothing more than wild claims. Unlike you, I'm not gullible enough to believe in such garbage, esp when these people are profiting financially from it all.
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yeah, I guess I believe everything.

I believe that monsters get away with evil acts because no one believes they do them.
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She didn't do it to herself, nor did she do it willingly.

I just want to hear from Mark himself since he is posting here, and am not interested in stupid troll like you.

I have read Tranceformation of America, and I saw a long youtube from the late 70's or early 80's I think when her and Mark first started coming forward, and have seen the one where she spoke at the Free Your Mind conference in 2013.

I have yet to find online and read a full copy of "Thanks for the Memories", nor have I watched any interview by her I don't think.

I've also read [link to www.whale.to]

about mind control, and this:
[link to freeyourbrain.tripod.com]

ALL THIS STUFF IS REAL, SO I DON'T GET IT WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH SHIT CALL OTHERS LIARS, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF MARK IS CALLING SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN RAPED AS A CHILD A LIAR.
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


Just so you know I am not Mark.

These people are crazy!

I am just participating in the discussion, as Cheny is an LYING MASS-MURDEROUS CREEPY CRIMINAL ASSHOLE.

And these people seem not to care about that!

Cathy said bad things about him YEARS before we even knew who Cheney was really.

I find them to be hypocritical.

Therefore I think they are SHILLS.

So I was only speaking my mind.

I ain't no Mark.
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Kissinger is the sickest and foulest and most evil babyfucker there is.

and Cheney is close behind him.
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


Kissinger is the sickest and foulest and most evil babyfucker there is.

and Cheney is close behind him.
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I'm sure everything that she said in her book Transformation of America about Hillary Clinton and big dick Cheney was a lie,and I'm sure the Franklin Scandal,The Presidio,and McMartin daycare are all lies to cause nobody would do that especially the Vatican.
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Here's just one of many studies on borderline personality disorder and self-genital mutilation:

[Self-mutilating behaviour: a study on 30 inpatients].
[Article in French]
Baguelin-Pinaud A1, Seguy C, Thibaut F.
Author information
Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
Deliberate self-injury is defined as the intentional, direct injuring of body tissue without suicidal intent. There are different types of deliberate self-mutilating behaviour: self cutting, phlebotomy, bites, burns, or ulcerations. Sometimes, especially among psychotic inpatients, eye, tongue, ear or genital self-mutilations have been reported. In fact, self-mutilation behaviour raises nosological and psychopathological questions. A consensus on a precise definition is still pending. Many authors consider self-mutilating behaviour as a distinct clinical syndrome, whereas others hold it to be a specific symptom of borderline personality disorder. Self-mutilating behaviour has been observed in 10 to 15% of healthy children, especially between the age of 9 and 18 months. These self mutilations are considered as pathological after the age of 3. Such behaviour is common among adolescents, with a higher proportion of females, and among psychiatric inpatients. Patients use different locations and methods for self-mutilation. Deliberate self harm syndrome is often associated with addictive behaviour, suicide attempt, and personality disorder

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Both Mark & Cathy wrote back to me after emailing them about Shaela Miller.

Here is what they had to say...


Cathy:
[link to i.imgur.com]


Mark:
[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69027367



That email from Mark....wow. He really thinks he's some sort of tough guy. baby
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I have no idea what he is talking about either. I found his email through a google search. I'm also not a street prostitute and have never done pornography so I have no idea why he says something so ridiculous like that. His threats of law enforcement attention are laughable.

He seems to be showing his true colors, that of a mind control handler who loves to emasculate women. A misogynist?
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This is what I am talking about. He goes off on these angry rants when someone says something he doesn't like. He is like the bully on the play ground.

As for that article supposedly written by Shaela, I highly doubt she wrote it. They are using her for their new angle. I will say it again, Shaela was not raised Mormon. We left the Mormon church when she was 4. She joined the church when she was 11 because most of her friends at the time were Mormon. We moved soon afterwards and she never went to church after that. It is a repeat of the lies on the video with Marion Schneider.
As for the address you emailed Mark at, I have no idea what Mark's personal address is. The only one I know about is the one on their website.
Sara you have been so kind to me and I want you to know that I do not believe you are a prostitute. Lol
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I hope you've contacted the police.
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I have no desire to discuss anything with those denying this shit, nor will I respond to them.

If Mark is denying the words of anybody that is coming forward about their own abuse,that is what I want to know about.
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from 'the man' himself. If you aren't him don't even bother.
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Does anyone know if Shaela Miller is even still alive?
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Re: Cathy O'Brien and her handler Mark Phillips have apparently kidnapped a young girl named Shaela Miller and are mind controlling her.
Both Mark & Cathy wrote back to me after emailing them about Shaela Miller.

Here is what they had to say...


Cathy:
[link to i.imgur.com]


Mark:
[link to i.imgur.com]
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That's the reaction of a wild animal backed into a corner.
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At least Cathy concealed her venom and gave a good equivocation in avoiding the actual question

rofl

you guys are barking up the wrong tree by trying to contact these individuals, they are master manipulators, I think the situation calls for intervention by the authorities , those two are never going to believe themselves in the wrong
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Re: Cathy O'Brien and her handler Mark Phillips have apparently kidnapped a young girl named Shaela Miller and are mind controlling her.
Both Mark & Cathy wrote back to me after emailing them about Shaela Miller.

Here is what they had to say...


Cathy:
[link to i.imgur.com]


Mark:
[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69027367


That's the reaction of a wild animal backed into a corner.
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At least Cathy concealed her venom and gave a good equivocation in avoiding the actual question

rofl

you guys are barking up the wrong tree by trying to contact these individuals, they are master manipulators, I think the situation calls for intervention by the authorities , those two are never going to believe themselves in the wrong
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And I bet the "authorities" would be very willing to put behind bars a couple who said LIES about Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney! A a whole lot of other important people.

They will be on top of it in no time!!!

RUN!
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Both Mark & Cathy wrote back to me after emailing them about Shaela Miller.

Here is what they had to say...


Cathy:
[link to i.imgur.com]


Mark:
[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69027367


That's the reaction of a wild animal backed into a corner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28451868


At least Cathy concealed her venom and gave a good equivocation in avoiding the actual question

rofl

you guys are barking up the wrong tree by trying to contact these individuals, they are master manipulators, I think the situation calls for intervention by the authorities , those two are never going to believe themselves in the wrong
 Quoting: Caylus Ark


And I bet the "authorities" would be very willing to put behind bars a couple who said LIES about Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney! AND a whole lot of other important people.

They will be on top of it in no time!!!

RUN!
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Both Mark & Cathy wrote back to me after emailing them about Shaela Miller.

Here is what they had to say...


Cathy:
[link to i.imgur.com]


Mark:
[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69027367


That's the reaction of a wild animal backed into a corner.
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At least Cathy concealed her venom and gave a good equivocation in avoiding the actual question

rofl

you guys are barking up the wrong tree by trying to contact these individuals, they are master manipulators, I think the situation calls for intervention by the authorities , those two are never going to believe themselves in the wrong
 Quoting: Caylus Ark


I believe responses, but still want to know about the part where he claimed that someone that eally went through abuse was lying. But to have you say that "intervention by the autorities" will help anyone is also barking up the wrong tree. The "authorities" rape and murder children in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY. Don't you feel safer now? don't believe it happens if that's what helps you sleep at night. I know better. That's why I don't sleep well at all myself.

It's hell not knowing who to trust. And I'm jealous as fuck of Cathy, because at least she HAS someone who gives enough of a fuck to rescue HER. i guess I was never pretty enough or important enough or mattered enough in the big scheme of things. good for them if they are both happy, but if they are telling other abuse victims they are making shit up, that is just VILE.
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I don't usually post on these type of stories because they trip me out, but I have read most of this thread and started on Tranceformation of America (which I've known of for a long time but hadn't gotten around to reading).

My impression (haven't watched the videos, just making an educated guess here) is that both the parents and family of this young lady and the pair of adults she is living with have a vested interest, whether emotionally or financially, and are likely very skilled manipulators.

Michal and Cathy Obrien could not have made up the entire contents of TRANCEformation of America because a great deal of it is demonstrably or simply from the point of de facto logic, true. "Mind Control" is something that goes on without ever openly employing such a self-description - rather information control/information operations / cognitive penetration / etc jargon terms are used.

But here is something absolutely essential to keeping in mind about people who research mind control - they cannot but help learning certain secrets [mankind was not meant to know] - and as such themselves would probably be pretty skilled programmers.

Remember: a programmer and a deprogrammer are essentially doing the same thing - for while critical thought and a skeptical nature may guard against hypnotism and mind control, intelligence may in fact be a factor in whether deep trance can be achieved - and critical thought and skepticism are only preventative factors, once a person is entranced these same exact traits may be used against them.

Just my thoughts.
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I'll say it once. I'll say it last... if Mark and Cathy were such a threat to this agenda, they wouldn't have made it out alive. They IMO are a narcissist / borderline couple who have concocted a sick fantasy to make money (look up the npd / bpd couple).

The family of that girl are innocent. Cathy may have been sexually abused by her dad, but Phillips was never CIA... more likely a loser janitor with James Bond fantasies... typical of a narcissist.
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Unless of course MP and COB are HELPING the agenda. Instead of hurting it.

You know, because they are MC programmers.
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yeah, by bringing in those who escaped..or thought they did until they come into their fold..

if that's true, then neither the family nor Cathy and Mark would have the woman in question's best interests in mind.


but then again, there sometimes is no black and white but shades of grey..

I just hope they aren't destroying more souls ..
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Everything is becoming clear now, and I think Mark and Cathy need to be very much scrutinized.
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Everything is becoming clear now, and I think Mark and Cathy need to be very much scrutinized.
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And unless they are playing a part created for them by TPTB, they will find themselves in a LOT of trouble for saying LIES against Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney, and all other important people she named in her book!

They will get her good!

UNLESS she works FOR them.
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Both Mark & Cathy wrote back to me after emailing them about Shaela Miller.

Here is what they had to say...


Cathy:
[link to i.imgur.com]


Mark:
[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69027367


That's the reaction of a wild animal backed into a corner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28451868


At least Cathy concealed her venom and gave a good equivocation in avoiding the actual question

rofl

you guys are barking up the wrong tree by trying to contact these individuals, they are master manipulators, I think the situation calls for intervention by the authorities , those two are never going to believe themselves in the wrong
 Quoting: Caylus Ark


I believe responses, but still want to know about the part where he claimed that someone that eally went through abuse was lying. But to have you say that "intervention by the autorities" will help anyone is also barking up the wrong tree. The "authorities" rape and murder children in the name of NATIONAL SECURITY. Don't you feel safer now? don't believe it happens if that's what helps you sleep at night. I know better. That's why I don't sleep well at all myself.

It's hell not knowing who to trust. And I'm jealous as fuck of Cathy, because at least she HAS someone who gives enough of a fuck to rescue HER. i guess I was never pretty enough or important enough or mattered enough in the big scheme of things. good for them if they are both happy, but if they are telling other abuse victims they are making shit up, that is just VILE.
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


I am as distrustful of literally everything bureaucratic as the rest of you anarchists, but what the hell are Shaela's parents supposed to do? A court will obviously consider a claim of mind control as it got Charles Manson's followers off due to the whole cult control argument.

Mark is a resident mind control/cult programming expert, would it really be so hard to make a judge believe that he'd been isolating Shaela and convincing her of this new version of reality?

Seems like it would be possible to get her out of there.

I know the parents feel like she is an adult etc etc but I don't see her snapping out of it on her own.

Reminds me of the show Aquarius where the parents kept trying to get that girl back but she just kept running away back to the manson 'family'

what to do? it is not easy. contacting an expert deprogrammer and asking them to get in contact with shaela?
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Go to the police is what you do and talk with a police officer, sharing with them all the information they know, and see about filing a missing person report, as they haven't had any contact with their daughter in years.


Until that is done I refuse to participate in this thread or bump it. It's up to her parents & sisters to be looking out for their daughter/sister, not us.

GO TO THE POLICE
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And I must say, while mind control as information control is (in my book anyway) definitely real, a lot of the contents of TRANCEformation of America sound - to put it mildly - pretty far fetched.

Not that I doubt the CIA has or does run mind control experiments - and that the details are classified "in the interest of national security" or whatever, but just some of the things Mark describes as happening sound like he is writing a romance fiction of some kind not a true exposé. and did this this guy really have contact with such influential people?

It's a little hard to swallow?
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Everything is becoming clear now, and I think Mark and Cathy need to be very much scrutinized.
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And unless they are playing a part created for them by TPTB, they will find themselves in a LOT of trouble for saying LIES against Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney, and all other important people she named in her book!

They will get her good!

UNLESS she works FOR them.
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aren't you the same poster who claimed to BE him?

wtf?

all I know is BIBLES don't stop rapists and killers, and they use that book to torture too.

so anyone that claims that "the name of Jesus" protects the innocent if they call on him is wrong.

But why is it that people say "I'm sure mind control is real"..but never believe any specific examples of it or any witnesses who ever come forward?

all I know is it's hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys when no one sticks together.
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Everything is becoming clear now, and I think Mark and Cathy need to be very much scrutinized.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41126899


And unless they are playing a part created for them by TPTB, they will find themselves in a LOT of trouble for saying LIES against Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney, and all other important people she named in her book!

They will get her good!

UNLESS she works FOR them.
 Quoting: NewEarth 5D 70134016


aren't you the same poster who claimed to BE him?

wtf?

all I know is BIBLES don't stop rapists and killers, and they use that book to torture too.

so anyone that claims that "the name of Jesus" protects the innocent if they call on him is wrong.

But why is it that people say "I'm sure mind control is real"..but never believe any specific examples of it or any witnesses who ever come forward?

all I know is it's hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys when no one sticks together.
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Anyone who knows how to deprogram knows how to program...
it's kind of a messy buisness
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Re: Cathy O'Brien and her handler Mark Phillips have apparently kidnapped a young girl named Shaela Miller and are mind controlling her.
the first time I ever knew there were others out there that had really been through some serious shit and were willing to talk about it and that things I was starting to remember really happened was watching a youtube video of Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien.

and now I am supposed to believe they are fake.

that everything is a lie?

but the woman the family is talking about is an ADULT..and of course if they are illuminati and pedophiles they would deny it!

however reading the link where Phillips denies Kissinger is a pedo..

that's pretty fucking damning. because he IS.

I don't know what to think. I'm still reading.
 Quoting: Kira mai Kadwalladyr


It's real Kira, I can attest to that. It looks to me that Mark took control of Cathy so he could handle damage control. He's her handler.

As you said, more to read though.

P.S. Hope we can get past the blackassasins brouhaha. I can't possibly explain my position in writing on GLP, regarding both Cosby and the author of the blog. Suffice it to say, you are correct when you say that what you illustrated is rape.
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of course we can.

and I haven't watched that youtube video in the original link because I dont have enough weed to get through both that and the week.

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Last Edited by JessKira Kadwalladyr on 08/24/2015 11:14 PM
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Why would anyone let their daughter go off with some youtube people? I'm stuck right there.

Now, to get to Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips specifically. If they are being 100% truthful, then they would be in danger. Thus the daughter would be. If they are 100% lying, then they are absolutely untrustworthy. If they are telling partly the truth, partly things they believe to be the truth, and partly being not so truthful then there are multiple causes of concern.

BTW, Michael Aquino is dead. Him writing 'complete cranks' (and that's all) isn't proof of anything.

Consider many things, but be cautious.

I've read Sue Ford's book and Cathy O'Brien's book. In my opinion, they are telling similar stories but different stories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69804513


I am Shaela's mom. I emailed Sue Ford for help. All she would say to me was that Mark used "open eyed hypnosis" on her and it was very hard for her to get away. Good luck.

If you go back and read the post where I discuss why Shaela went to live with them you will see how she developed a friendship with Cathy through emails and phone conversations. When Shaela was. a month shy of 19 they offered her a job after meeting her at a conference in the Mt. Shasta area, 5 hours from our home. We all thought Sheala was going to do great things by helping M&C get the word out. Shaela was an adult. We were proud of her and she was going to go help them with their seminars, be their assistant and travel abroad. It sounded like a great job opportunity at the time.
 Quoting: Tammy Miller


I am sorry the loss of contact with your daughter.

Look into how hypnosis works, particularly on susceptible people (this is not something those people can control). Try to find out if your daughter had any memory loss in her past.

Focus on your daughter more than people she may be around. She is the one you really care about anyway.

As in try to establish any contact with her... email, letters, anything.
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Tammy,
If you truly wish to help your daughter, they are right, the authorities are quite unlikely to help you. My recommendation would be to learn as much about the subject of cult control, hypnosis, etc - for yourself that you can contact your daughter and start working out her system of triggers and degree of fragmentation.

Open a line of communication with your daughter which will be easier for her to tolerate - starting with something like an email correspondence ... try to get her to explain to you personally, without one of the mediations of her handler, her memories and experiences of trauma. do not refute or denounce them as this will probably make her shut down.

this would be my recommendation, as I don't think you'll be equipped to handle what has happened to her unless you become educated in how the programming process unfolds.
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I have read all about Cathy and mark over the years and found the stories intriguing and truthful. It's too bad they have now fuk'd up their credibility and have made unsettling choices that go directly against what they were exposing and fighting for. This is some fuked up shit.

Best wishes to family for Shaela's safe return.

Last Edited by Let Freedom Ring 365 on 08/25/2015 09:43 AM
You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one.

Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid!

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla
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Tammy,
If you truly wish to help your daughter, they are right, the authorities are quite unlikely to help you.
 Quoting: Caylus Ark


Sounds like you're trying to reinforce the idea that the police won't help and she shouldn't go to the police...

I disagree completely. Police help in missing person cases all the time...

Her family could also hire a private detective to look into it as well..

They need to do something before it's too late...





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