Mrs. MIller, I cannot imagine the grief and regret you live with entrusting your daughter to a couple who have estranged her from her family. A controlling person will cut off the person they are controlling from the support and advice of family and friends. I have read Cathy's book, "Trance-formation of America" and watched her videos on youtube. My take on this? Shayla is being used to promote their cause--she is as beautiful and well-spoken as any celebrity. In this interview, she is speaking about what she has been taught on the subject of mind control--principles rather than a testimony of the nuts-and-bolts of the alleged mind control foisted upon her. Shayla is their new spokeswoman--they are capitalizing on her beauty and eloquence. I've wondered if Mark is not a containment agent--the reason why M&C are still alive and allowed to share their story. The intelligence community does not just release those with incriminating information. Mrs. MIller, mind control is a spirit of witchcraft. The name of Jesus Christ is all-powerful. I will pray for your daughter, forit is only by the power of God and His mercy that the eyes of Shayla's understanding will be opened, and she will be truly free. "Religion" is controlling, but a relationship with Jesus Christ is not religion. It is freedom. Read Ephesians chapter 6, and know that the enemy of our souls is not flesh and blood, but the principalities and powers that inhabit human flesh and drive people to do the enemy's bidding. God is your only hope in this--the living God that Mark and Cathy will not acknowledge.