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Kissinger: ‘Breaking Russia Has Become Objective For US’

By RT

August 24, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - "RT" - Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has hit out at American and European Ukraine policy, saying it ignores Russia’s relationship with its neighbor, and has called for cooperation between the White House and the Kremlin on the issue.

“Breaking Russia has become an objective [for US officials] the long-range purpose should be to integrate it,” the 92-year-old told The National Interest in a lengthy interview for the policy magazine’s anniversary that touched on most of the world’s most pertinent international issues. “If we treat Russia seriously as a great power, we need at an early stage to determine whether their concerns can be reconciled with our necessities.”

The diplomat, who is most famous for serving in the Nixon administration, and controversially being awarded the 1973 Nobel Peace Prize, for negotiating the Vietnam ceasefire, accused the West of failing to recognize the historical context in which the fallout occurred between Moscow and Kiev.

“The relationship between Ukraine and Russia will always have a special character in the Russian mind. It can never be limited to a relationship of two traditional sovereign states, not from the Russian point of view, maybe not even from Ukraine’s. So, what happens in Ukraine cannot be put into a simple formula of applying principles that worked in Western Europe.”

Kissinger lays the blame for sparking the conflict at the door of the EU, which proposed a trade deal in 2013, without considering how it would alienate Moscow, and divide the Ukrainian people.

“The first mistake was the inadvertent conduct of the European Union. They did not understand the implications of some of their own conditions. Ukrainian domestic politics made it look impossible for [former Ukrainian president Viktor] Yanukovych to accept the EU terms and be reelected or for Russia to view them as purely economic,” said Kissinger.

This Kissinger interview in @TheNatlInterest is well worth reading USE_FULL_LINK_PLEASE8og25i9UQ5pic.twitter.com/y2zYL3hsku

— Danielle Ryan (@DanielleRyanJ) August 20, 2015
Once Yanukovich rejected the deal in November 2013, the EU “panicked”, Russia became “overconfident,” the US remained “passive” as “each side acted sort of rationally based on its misconception of the other” and “no significant political discussions.”

For Kissinger, the wheels of the stand-off between Moscow and the West were already set in motion during the subsequent Maidan street protests – heartily endorsed by the West – which demanded the toppling of the pro-Russian Yanukovich, an aim that was eventually achieved.

“While Ukraine slid into the Maidan uprising right in the middle of what Putin had spent ten years building as a recognition of Russia’s status. No doubt in Moscow this looked as if the West was exploiting what had been conceived as a Russian festival to move Ukraine out of the Russian orbit.”

Obama, as his critics will remind you, did not seek to "break" Russia. We tried to Reset relations with Russia. Putin in 2012 rejected.

— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) August 20, 2015
With the armed conflict in Ukraine still showing no signs of resolution, Kissinger repeated his previous proposal for Ukraine to become a buffer, or mediator state between Russia and the West.

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Re: Kissinger called for the West to stop backing Kiev at all costs, even as the victims of the conflict pile up.
Heinz is right.
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Henry is one evil dude.

But unlike the idiots that are running the team now, at least he has a brain in his head.
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Heinz is right.
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Obama, Kerry and Hillary should be arrested and handed over to Putin for Public Trials of Genocide..
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It's probably an old gits grudge thing, soros v kissinger, they're both evil so fuckem.
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The devil is right for a change. I never thought I'd agree with the guy.
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Re: Kissinger called for the West to stop backing Kiev at all costs, even as the victims of the conflict pile up.
Claims being made that the West attempted a restart with Russia are absolutely false and quite deceptive. There was such an attempt by Obama, but in 2012 after his administration was internally weakened by a split in loyalties within the state department this was all but abandoned. Unfortunately, Obama is too weak and fearful of assassination to stop Kerry, Gen. Allen and the Petraeus clique.
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Kissinger would be just playing whoever will believe him, he has too much invested in homo/sexnut/marxism to support Russia and Putin. Some kinda catspaw play.
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cat's-paw also cats·paw (kăts′pô′)
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1. A person used by another as a dupe or tool.
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Kissinger would be just playing whoever will believe him, he has too much invested in homo/sexnut/marxism to support Russia and Putin. Some kinda catspaw play.
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hat to say it I think you are right..

Either that or he has figured out Obama is the Antichrist.
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He knows America can't defeat Russia on their own turf. Additionally, Ukraine was given to the Russians in WW2 and Russia won the war. The Soviet colapse was orchastrated by US bankers through immoral usury, so the deal between Hitler and Stalin is still more or less valid (in the eyes of God).

The idea of Ukraine joining a western trade pact and NATO is stupid. Ukraine can tread water as an independent nation, and bail out it's economy with BRIC help.

Ukraine is special. It has very low living costs, rich soil, and hot women. 40% of the population are farmers and everyone's wife looks like a Victoria Secret model. The people here are hurting due to low wages, but a modest increase in the minimum wage is possible and will put things back to normal.

Westernizing Ukraine simply means putting their men in German kitchens and their women in German brothels. Putin isn't going to let that happen and neither will I. This place lives life right. The world needs to be more like Ukraine, not vice versa.
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It has always been Russia that defeats the anti-Christ force, whatever the era, Napoleon and Hitler were just beta tests for this final attempt by satan. I wouldn't trust kissinger as far as I could throw him and I'm sure Vlad feels the same way.
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Realpolitik <> Détente
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Evil bastard doesn't give a shit about any country, he's still pushing his NWO with the 'integrating Russia' talk....
:kkwapper:
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Trying to take Kiev is Obama's Stalingradski.
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its all about snowden
if americans can find asylum in russia after exposing a abuses of its own people the system collapses
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Re: Kissinger called for the West to stop backing Kiev at all costs, even as the victims of the conflict pile up.
He knows America can't defeat Russia on their own turf. Additionally, Ukraine was given to the Russians in WW2 and Russia won the war. The Soviet colapse was orchastrated by US bankers through immoral usury, so the deal between Hitler and Stalin is still more or less valid (in the eyes of God).

The idea of Ukraine joining a western trade pact and NATO is stupid. Ukraine can tread water as an independent nation, and bail out it's economy with BRIC help.

Ukraine is special. It has very low living costs, rich soil, and hot women. 40% of the population are farmers and everyone's wife looks like a Victoria Secret model. The people here are hurting due to low wages, but a modest increase in the minimum wage is possible and will put things back to normal.

Westernizing Ukraine simply means putting their men in German kitchens and their women in German brothels. Putin isn't going to let that happen and neither will I. This place lives life right. The world needs to be more like Ukraine, not vice versa.
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hf

It's too bad that the yidnazis have decided your country has stuff they want to steal.
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Re: Kissinger called for the West to stop backing Kiev at all costs, even as the victims of the conflict pile up.
He knows America can't defeat Russia on their own turf. Additionally, Ukraine was given to the Russians in WW2 and Russia won the war. The Soviet colapse was orchastrated by US bankers through immoral usury, so the deal between Hitler and Stalin is still more or less valid (in the eyes of God).

The idea of Ukraine joining a western trade pact and NATO is stupid. Ukraine can tread water as an independent nation, and bail out it's economy with BRIC help.

Ukraine is special. It has very low living costs, rich soil, and hot women. 40% of the population are farmers and everyone's wife looks like a Victoria Secret model. The people here are hurting due to low wages, but a modest increase in the minimum wage is possible and will put things back to normal.

Westernizing Ukraine simply means putting their men in German kitchens and their women in German brothels. Putin isn't going to let that happen and neither will I. This place lives life right. The world needs to be more like Ukraine, not vice versa.
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hf

It's too bad that the yidnazis have decided your country has stuff they want to steal.
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They believe it belongs to them, like everything else. Even morseso than most in fact.

Central and western Ukraine were part of the thieving Horseface K.ike Empire when they picked up the black magick Talmud and called it there own book of black magick. They especially loved the floods of pervert sex, human sacrifice and counterfeit banking for profit parts of that book of unmentionable sin and desolation.





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