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Confirmation – Tianjin was nuked

 
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Confirmation – Tianjin was nuked

by Ian Greenhalgh, Britain with Jeff Smith, USA on August 25, 2015

This was no chemical fire, this was China's 9-11.



Two weeks ago a devastating explosion took place in the port city of Tianjin, China. Official reports claimed a chemical storage facility had caught fire and exploded. Mobile phone footage taken by residents showed an enormous blast and fireball.

Within days, aerial photos revealed the stunning extent of the damage. A steaming black crater marks ground zero, while the apocalyptic surrounding landscape is charred and flattened. Rows of burnt-out cars and twisted shipping containers stretch into the distance on all sides.

The extent of the devastation is such that it must have been a very big bang indeed.

The total burned area spans 20,000 square meters and continues to be dangerous—more explosions were reported by Chinese authorities on the 15th of August. Residents within a 3-mile radius have been relocated; at least 85 victims of the accident have been reported dead.



We were immediately suspicious, such huge explosions have to be viewed with suspicion these days when tactical nuclear weapons can and are used with alarming frequency – 9-11, The Khobar Towers, the Haiti Earthquake and most recently, air dropped on Yemen.

Massive devastation over a wide area.

The mobile phone as radiation detector

The key clue that allowed us to identify the use of a nuke in Yemen was the presence of scintillating pixels – white dots that flashed on and off briefly in the mobile phone videos of the explosion. The CCD imaging sensor within the camera phone is being struck by radiation thus causing a pixel to overload and appear white; in this way a mobile phone can serve double duty as a crude but effective radiation detector.



When the Tianjin blast occurred I immediately looked at the mobile phone footage of the blast and tried to find scintillating pixels; I couldn’t find any, but the huge white hot fireball and sheer size of the blast effect apparent in the footage (shaken buildings, breaking windows etc.) certainly didn’t feel like a conventional explosion to my relatively untrained eyes.

It was actually VT Contributor and expert on all things nuclear, Jeff Smith who taught us about scintillating pixels and the use of a mobile phone camera to detect radiation; therefore I consulted him about the lack of scintillation in the Tianjin footage:

Scintillation is based on the distance from the blast. The farther you get away from the blast the less neutron exposure you get. CCD Cameras will detect scintillation but only at high levels. They are not sensitive to far field radiation patterns. All CCD cameras were too far away to be sensitive enough to show scintillation properly.

So you have to look at the white out in the centre of the photo. This is where the brightness is so great that it overloads the ccd pickup chip causing a clipping effect. The fact that the fireball was whited out or clipped indicates that the colour temperature was over 4,000 degrees C. Only achievable in a nuclear blast. The cameras auto gain circuit clips the video level for being too bright so you get a white out on the screen.

No scintillation but a clear piece of evidence indicating a nuclear explosion in the form of the huge white fireball – once again, mobile phone footage proves useful in deciphering the truth.

The parking lots full of toasted cars

As reports and images became available, we studied them carefully for evidence of the use of a nuclear weapon and sadly, it was not long before we found it – the first big clue coming with the pictures of the thousands of toasted cars that looked eerily like those seen on 9-11.

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Wasnt the radiation detected because of the nuclear stuff lying their in the cobtainers tgat blowed because of the explosion?

If it was a tactical nuke, im sure china detected it before impact
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Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke.

If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion.
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Where is this Yemen footage from?
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Where is this Yemen footage from?
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Thread: Nuclear War has Begun in Yemen
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here:

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Where is this Yemen footage from?
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Yemen?
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Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke.

If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion.
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Good luck with getting anyone to believe that. There will be more where you came from I'm sure.
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Once again:

Very thorough and informative original article here:

[link to i1056.photobucket.com]

They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here.
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The critical mass of compressed fissile material decreases as the inverse square of the density achieved. Since critical mass decreases rapidly as density increases, the implosion technique can make do with substantially less nuclear material than the gun-assembly method. The "Fat Man" atomic bomb that destroyed Nagasaki in 1945 used 6.2 kilograms of plutonium and produced an explosive yield of 21-23 kilotons [a 1987 reassessment of the Japanese bombings placed the yield at 21 Kt]. Until January 1994, the Department of Energy (DOE) estimated that 8 kilograms would typically be needed to make a small nuclear weapon. Subsequently, however, DOE reduced the estimate of the amount of plutonium needed to 4 kilograms. Some US scientists believe that 1 kilogram of plutonium will suffice.



The supposed white ball in the video, if not caused by the shutter opening on the camera, also showed white ejecta being expelled, which was clearly seen, they appeared to be minerals, likely aluminium, magnesium, or some other alloy. Fission causes a release of energy. The energy released causes everything in its path to catch fire it does not spread combustible fuel.

I'm not sure how many pounds of material is expelled by those blasts but I can assure you it was far more than 16 pounds.



An ordinary "atomic" bomb of the kinds used in World War II uses the process of nuclear fission to release the binding energy in certain nuclei. The energy release is rapid and, because of the large amounts of energy locked in nuclei, violent. The principal materials used for fission weapons are U-235 and Pu-239, which are termed fissile because they can be split into two roughly equal-mass fragments when struck by a neutron of even low energies. When a large enough mass of either material is assembled, a self-sustaining chain reaction results after the first fission is produced.
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Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke.

If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion.
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Your silly opinion. Pay attention if you want to sit at the adult table.

Read the article that fast, eh? I'm impressed. With your lack of shilling skill.

better call in the tier two shills for this one asshat.
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Did the explosion get their new international BRICS trade center tower that was headquarters to all the BRICS in that city? Then it would be their 9-11. Everyone is silent on their trade center to begin world dominion. Seems if it didn't get it then Russia would be chirping about it.
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Why peddle nonsense and disinfo?


All explosions have tell-tale signs from them and this was NOT a nuke. Period.

You don't get secondary and tertiary explosions from a nuke,ever. It vaporizes everything in the blast zone as the nuke goes off, not leaving anything else to further explode.

From the videos of the explosions (notice that's PLURAL), their chain reaction explosions, at least THREE.

Now, whether or not it was terrorism or not, I don't know, I'm not there investigating it.

Folks today are too gullible with ZERO discernment. Don't be that guy. Be skeptical yes, but also educate yourself on things so that you won't be so easily fooled. Study Occam's Razor.
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Did they fix nuclear explosions from lighting up everything else within the visual landscape to a blinding white light like this one?


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Why peddle nonsense and disinfo?


All explosions have tell-tale signs from them and this was NOT a nuke. Period.

You don't get secondary and tertiary explosions from a nuke,ever. It vaporizes everything in the blast zone as the nuke goes off, not leaving anything else to further explode.

From the videos of the explosions (notice that's PLURAL), their chain reaction explosions, at least THREE.

Now, whether or not it was terrorism or not, I don't know, I'm not there investigating it.

Folks today are too gullible with ZERO discernment. Don't be that guy. Be skeptical yes, but also educate yourself on things so that you won't be so easily fooled. Study Occam's Razor.
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First of the tier two shills. welcome aboard. Now go sit your ass at the kiddie table pal.
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Once again:

Very thorough and informative original article here:

[link to i1056.photobucket.com]

They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here.
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Thanks for that. Going on the round robin now.

5 stars to you OP.

Fuck you to the shills.
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Did they fix nuclear explosions from lighting up everything else within the visual landscape to a blinding white light like this one?



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Flash blindness

Flash blindness is caused by the initial brilliant flash of light produced by the nuclear detonation.

A 1-megaton explosion can cause flash blindness at distances as great as 13 miles on a clear day, or 53 miles on a clear night. If the intensity is great enough, a permanent retinal burn will result.

Retinal injury is the most far-reaching injury effect of nuclear explosions, but it is relatively rare since the eye must be looking directly at the detonation. Retinal injury results from burns in the area of the retina where the fireball image is focused.
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Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke.

If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion.
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Only if you think in old school terms. Who are you to say what a modern tactical nuke explosion looks like. You don't know. So your opinion is irrelevant.

What EVERYONE knows though, just by common sense, is that there was not enough fuel in a shipping container to cause that blast. The blast did NOT originate in a warehouse. That's been proven fact.

It was not a chemical explosion. That is also fact.

Whatever it was, whichever technology they used, was certainly a deliberate attack with high technology. Accidental explosions do not create a 20,000 foot high fire ball. They just don't.

Even the chemical plant in Nevada that exploded a decade ago wasn't anywhere close to this explosion. You fools need to recognize just how big this blast was.
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Once again:

Very thorough and informative original article here:

[link to i1056.photobucket.com]

They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here.
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Thanks for that. Going on the round robin now.

5 stars to you OP.

Fuck you to the shills.
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Looks like it's been memoryholed already.
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Whatever exploded in Tianjin was clearly something under the ground. The pics of the resulting crater show that clearly.
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I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent.

There is no room for common sense here.
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I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent.

There is no room for common sense here.
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So give us some verifiable proof of your expertise in the area of nuclear weapons technology.
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Once again:

Very thorough and informative original article here:

[link to i1056.photobucket.com]

They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66879913


Thanks for that. Going on the round robin now.

5 stars to you OP.

Fuck you to the shills.
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Looks like it's been memoryholed already.
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Still there for me, but the screenshot is still handy to have.
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I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent.

There is no room for common sense here.
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Tier 3 shill enters with a one two comeback offering nothing but insults and and empty argument from non-existent authority.

Tell us oh wise nuclear expert with a clear grip on the facts why you think it wasn't nuclear.

Oh hell, Doesn't matter. Shills gonna shill. Gotta get paid.
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"While a layman like myself can recognise the overall similarity, it takes an expert to fully analyse the evidence contained in the pictures; luckily, at VT we have such an expert in the erstwhile Jeff Smith who provided the following analysis:

Normal people are not trained in what to look at so they simply ignore the obvious. However, once you see enough explosions like this you begin to spot the artefacts in the photos real fast. Unfortunately all of these people that know this stuff usually work for the government. Just like I did.

The big clue is in the ash produced and the exploding radiators on the cars. They show the radiation and the blast patterns the best. All melted rubber, glass, and aluminium but no melted steel? This tells you it is from radiation and not from a gasoline fire. Temps between 1500 degrees C for melting aluminium and less than 3,000 degrees C for melting steel. Everything organic ashes below 450 degrees C.

This had a plasma fireball that was over 4,000C! Only a nuke can do that. The clue is in the white ash leftover from the thermal blast."

"A. The fuel tanks did not explode.

B. The rubber tires were ashed not burned see the white powder residue around the cars.

C. The radiators are all gone; indicating Freon explosions.

D. All the glass is ashed or melted; also the the glass was blown out not in.

E. All new white cars show extreme effects from very high temperature heating. The paint is badly damaged due to a very high oxidation rate effect.

F. Silicone rubber tires ash at 500 degrees centigrade. Glass ashes at 1500 degrees centigrade. Gasoline at 250 degrees centigrade. Tires melted but no gas tank explosions; just like on 911.

G. Yellow Volkswagen Beetle cars untouched due to location indicating radiation shielding from a nearby building. Just like on 911….

H. Finally and most important is all of the nano particle sized ash on the ground everywhere. Purple haze in photo is an indication of toxic levels of the gases fluorine, chlorine and sodium.

Conclusion; The damage to the cars was produced by neutron radiation damage and not by conventional explosives or a fuel-air explosion. The distance from ground zero is too great for a standard blast to melt the glass and tires. Also the cars fuel tanks were shielded from the heat of the ignition source."

"So there you have it, the ‘smoking gun’ evidence of a nuke is to be found among the smoking wreckage of those incinerated cars. However, the pictures of burnt out cars contain more evidence to be analysed before we move on to the other evidence."
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I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent.

There is no room for common sense here.
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Tier 3 shill enters with a one two comeback offering nothing but insults and and empty argument from non-existent authority.

Tell us oh wise nuclear expert with a clear grip on the facts why you think it wasn't nuclear.

Oh hell, Doesn't matter. Shills gonna shill. Gotta get paid.
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Do you know what vaporization is?

Tell me, wingnut, how shrapnal gets thrown out of an explosion that is scientifically known to vaporize anything in the direct blast-zone?

Also tell me who invented this new, never before seen triple-yield nuke you seem to think was used here.

Lastly, tell me why they needed a convenient fire right in the area of origin to set it off? Let me guess, the fire was just a distraction, right?

The ignorant are always the loudest.
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If it had been a newk, the people filming it would have been blinded, the cameras (one two blocks away) would have been fried and there would be radiation sickness experienced by thousands. Newks cannot be used anymore as each one has a fingerprint that can be traced specifically to lab that refined the materials. It was some other kind of weapon though. They wanted us to see it too which is why there was a small fire and pre-explosion - that guaranteed cameras would be rolling for the min event.





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