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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70159886 South Africa 08/26/2015 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke. If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66879913 Germany 08/26/2015 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70159886 If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion. Good luck with getting anyone to believe that. There will be more where you came from I'm sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66879913 Germany 08/26/2015 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again: Very thorough and informative original article here: [link to i1056.photobucket.com] They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8002734 United States 08/26/2015 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The critical mass of compressed fissile material decreases as the inverse square of the density achieved. Since critical mass decreases rapidly as density increases, the implosion technique can make do with substantially less nuclear material than the gun-assembly method. The "Fat Man" atomic bomb that destroyed Nagasaki in 1945 used 6.2 kilograms of plutonium and produced an explosive yield of 21-23 kilotons [a 1987 reassessment of the Japanese bombings placed the yield at 21 Kt]. Until January 1994, the Department of Energy (DOE) estimated that 8 kilograms would typically be needed to make a small nuclear weapon. Subsequently, however, DOE reduced the estimate of the amount of plutonium needed to 4 kilograms. Some US scientists believe that 1 kilogram of plutonium will suffice. The supposed white ball in the video, if not caused by the shutter opening on the camera, also showed white ejecta being expelled, which was clearly seen, they appeared to be minerals, likely aluminium, magnesium, or some other alloy. Fission causes a release of energy. The energy released causes everything in its path to catch fire it does not spread combustible fuel. I'm not sure how many pounds of material is expelled by those blasts but I can assure you it was far more than 16 pounds. An ordinary "atomic" bomb of the kinds used in World War II uses the process of nuclear fission to release the binding energy in certain nuclei. The energy release is rapid and, because of the large amounts of energy locked in nuclei, violent. The principal materials used for fission weapons are U-235 and Pu-239, which are termed fissile because they can be split into two roughly equal-mass fragments when struck by a neutron of even low energies. When a large enough mass of either material is assembled, a self-sustaining chain reaction results after the first fission is produced. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70031177 United States 08/26/2015 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70159886 If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion. Your silly opinion. Pay attention if you want to sit at the adult table. Read the article that fast, eh? I'm impressed. With your lack of shilling skill. better call in the tier two shills for this one asshat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68426709 United States 08/26/2015 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why peddle nonsense and disinfo? All explosions have tell-tale signs from them and this was NOT a nuke. Period. You don't get secondary and tertiary explosions from a nuke,ever. It vaporizes everything in the blast zone as the nuke goes off, not leaving anything else to further explode. From the videos of the explosions (notice that's PLURAL), their chain reaction explosions, at least THREE. Now, whether or not it was terrorism or not, I don't know, I'm not there investigating it. Folks today are too gullible with ZERO discernment. Don't be that guy. Be skeptical yes, but also educate yourself on things so that you won't be so easily fooled. Study Occam's Razor. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70031177 United States 08/26/2015 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why peddle nonsense and disinfo? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68426709 All explosions have tell-tale signs from them and this was NOT a nuke. Period. You don't get secondary and tertiary explosions from a nuke,ever. It vaporizes everything in the blast zone as the nuke goes off, not leaving anything else to further explode. From the videos of the explosions (notice that's PLURAL), their chain reaction explosions, at least THREE. Now, whether or not it was terrorism or not, I don't know, I'm not there investigating it. Folks today are too gullible with ZERO discernment. Don't be that guy. Be skeptical yes, but also educate yourself on things so that you won't be so easily fooled. Study Occam's Razor. First of the tier two shills. welcome aboard. Now go sit your ass at the kiddie table pal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64397438 Germany 08/26/2015 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66879913 Very thorough and informative original article here: [link to i1056.photobucket.com] They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here. Thanks for that. Going on the round robin now. 5 stars to you OP. Fuck you to the shills. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8002734 United States 08/26/2015 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did they fix nuclear explosions from lighting up everything else within the visual landscape to a blinding white light like this one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69910872 Flash blindness Flash blindness is caused by the initial brilliant flash of light produced by the nuclear detonation. A 1-megaton explosion can cause flash blindness at distances as great as 13 miles on a clear day, or 53 miles on a clear night. If the intensity is great enough, a permanent retinal burn will result. Retinal injury is the most far-reaching injury effect of nuclear explosions, but it is relatively rare since the eye must be looking directly at the detonation. Retinal injury results from burns in the area of the retina where the fireball image is focused. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62059029 United States 08/26/2015 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was absolutely not a nuke. Maybe some other explosive device to set the shit off, but not a nuke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70159886 If it was a nuke, we'd know it was a nuke. Trust me. A nuclear explosion is completely different to anything else. Everyone would know if a nuke went off somewhere in the world. There's no mistaking that type of explosion. Only if you think in old school terms. Who are you to say what a modern tactical nuke explosion looks like. You don't know. So your opinion is irrelevant. What EVERYONE knows though, just by common sense, is that there was not enough fuel in a shipping container to cause that blast. The blast did NOT originate in a warehouse. That's been proven fact. It was not a chemical explosion. That is also fact. Whatever it was, whichever technology they used, was certainly a deliberate attack with high technology. Accidental explosions do not create a 20,000 foot high fire ball. They just don't. Even the chemical plant in Nevada that exploded a decade ago wasn't anywhere close to this explosion. You fools need to recognize just how big this blast was. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62640219 United States 08/26/2015 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66879913 Very thorough and informative original article here: [link to i1056.photobucket.com] They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here. Thanks for that. Going on the round robin now. 5 stars to you OP. Fuck you to the shills. Looks like it's been memoryholed already. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70161370 South Africa 08/26/2015 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent. There is no room for common sense here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62640219 United States 08/26/2015 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70161370 There is no room for common sense here. So give us some verifiable proof of your expertise in the area of nuclear weapons technology. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54442535 United Kingdom 08/26/2015 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66879913 Very thorough and informative original article here: [link to i1056.photobucket.com] They won't let me post a link, so grab this full page screencap while you can before they disappear the original article. That I can't even post a link to here. Thanks for that. Going on the round robin now. 5 stars to you OP. Fuck you to the shills. Looks like it's been memoryholed already. Still there for me, but the screenshot is still handy to have. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54442535 United Kingdom 08/26/2015 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70161370 There is no room for common sense here. Tier 3 shill enters with a one two comeback offering nothing but insults and and empty argument from non-existent authority. Tell us oh wise nuclear expert with a clear grip on the facts why you think it wasn't nuclear. Oh hell, Doesn't matter. Shills gonna shill. Gotta get paid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70031177 United States 08/26/2015 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "While a layman like myself can recognise the overall similarity, it takes an expert to fully analyse the evidence contained in the pictures; luckily, at VT we have such an expert in the erstwhile Jeff Smith who provided the following analysis: Normal people are not trained in what to look at so they simply ignore the obvious. However, once you see enough explosions like this you begin to spot the artefacts in the photos real fast. Unfortunately all of these people that know this stuff usually work for the government. Just like I did. The big clue is in the ash produced and the exploding radiators on the cars. They show the radiation and the blast patterns the best. All melted rubber, glass, and aluminium but no melted steel? This tells you it is from radiation and not from a gasoline fire. Temps between 1500 degrees C for melting aluminium and less than 3,000 degrees C for melting steel. Everything organic ashes below 450 degrees C. This had a plasma fireball that was over 4,000C! Only a nuke can do that. The clue is in the white ash leftover from the thermal blast." "A. The fuel tanks did not explode. B. The rubber tires were ashed not burned see the white powder residue around the cars. C. The radiators are all gone; indicating Freon explosions. D. All the glass is ashed or melted; also the the glass was blown out not in. E. All new white cars show extreme effects from very high temperature heating. The paint is badly damaged due to a very high oxidation rate effect. F. Silicone rubber tires ash at 500 degrees centigrade. Glass ashes at 1500 degrees centigrade. Gasoline at 250 degrees centigrade. Tires melted but no gas tank explosions; just like on 911. G. Yellow Volkswagen Beetle cars untouched due to location indicating radiation shielding from a nearby building. Just like on 911 . H. Finally and most important is all of the nano particle sized ash on the ground everywhere. Purple haze in photo is an indication of toxic levels of the gases fluorine, chlorine and sodium. Conclusion; The damage to the cars was produced by neutron radiation damage and not by conventional explosives or a fuel-air explosion. The distance from ground zero is too great for a standard blast to melt the glass and tires. Also the cars fuel tanks were shielded from the heat of the ignition source." "So there you have it, the smoking gun evidence of a nuke is to be found among the smoking wreckage of those incinerated cars. However, the pictures of burnt out cars contain more evidence to be analysed before we move on to the other evidence." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70161370 South Africa 08/26/2015 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, you have motherfuckers stupid enough to believe flaming shrapnal can fly out from a nuclear explosion posting in this thread... Their grasp of the science behind these types of things is not only laughable, but non-existent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70161370 There is no room for common sense here. Tier 3 shill enters with a one two comeback offering nothing but insults and and empty argument from non-existent authority. Tell us oh wise nuclear expert with a clear grip on the facts why you think it wasn't nuclear. Oh hell, Doesn't matter. Shills gonna shill. Gotta get paid. Do you know what vaporization is? Tell me, wingnut, how shrapnal gets thrown out of an explosion that is scientifically known to vaporize anything in the direct blast-zone? Also tell me who invented this new, never before seen triple-yield nuke you seem to think was used here. Lastly, tell me why they needed a convenient fire right in the area of origin to set it off? Let me guess, the fire was just a distraction, right? The ignorant are always the loudest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68474273 United States 08/26/2015 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it had been a newk, the people filming it would have been blinded, the cameras (one two blocks away) would have been fried and there would be radiation sickness experienced by thousands. Newks cannot be used anymore as each one has a fingerprint that can be traced specifically to lab that refined the materials. It was some other kind of weapon though. They wanted us to see it too which is why there was a small fire and pre-explosion - that guaranteed cameras would be rolling for the min event. |