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Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash

 
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Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash
Another hint for Tianjin Explosion being nuclear:

Amercian Dan van Duren who made the viral video of the explosion and his friend got SUNBURN from Explosion-flash at night (23:30 local time).

Sunburn is mainly caused by UV- light from sources above 3000°C (welding, sun, nuclear explosion), not by normal fire (up to 1000°C).

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

These post-nuclear effects are described in :
Planning Guidance for Response to a Nuclear Detonation, 2.edition 2010

download 135p. pdf:
www.epa.gov/radiation/docs/er/planning-guidance-for-response-​to-nuclear-detonation-2-edition-final.pdf
[link to www.epa.gov]
page 25: Pictures from Hiroshima/Nagasaki sunburn.

Hint: This study mainly discusses effects of a (normally more effective) above-ground 10 KT (Kilo-Tons TNT)-Explosion. If the explosion is underground (as possibly in Tianjin) these effects are strongly reduced !

Content:
CHAPTER 1 - NUCLEAR DETONATION EFFECTS AND IMPACTS IN AN URBAN
CHAPTER 2 - A ZONED APPROACH TO NUCLEAR DETONATION RESPONSE
CHAPTER 3 - SHELTER / EVACUATION RECOMMENDATIONS
CHAPTER 4 – EARLY MEDICAL CARE
CHAPTER 5 – POPULATION MONITORING AND DECONTAMINATION
CHAPTER 6 - PUBLIC PREPAREDNESS - EMERGENCY PUBLIC INFORMATION (new in 2.edition)

More at: [link to homment.com]
Mainstreammedia like nbcnews are supressing van Duren's sunburn and his description as NUCLEAR blast.
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Important information, thanks for the post and link.
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Important information, thanks for the post and link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70163614

See also:
Thread: China explosion:crater 92x100m from 4400(NOT 21)t-TNT simple physic
The crater lake is (from better photo) 95 x 104 m
Here some new calculations with
scientific crater calculator from University of Washington:

keith.aa.washington.edu/craterdata/scaling/index.htm
[link to keith.aa.washington.edu]

see: homment.com/Scientific_crater-calculator_China-Tianjin-100m-c​rater_made_by_4000-17000_t-TNT
[link to homment.com]
RESULT: Nuclear explosion with 2.2 kt (-20m) or 8 kt-TNT (-10m) are sufficient for 100m crater
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This should be pinned!
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Re: Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash
The alledged 21 t-TNT as Explosion is scientifc nonsense (if this official number is true, CHINA!!!):
This is the measured energy of the caused earthquake, you would need 10-80 times more (for blast, light etc)
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They would all be blind if it was a nuke
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They would all be blind if it was a nuke
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64367351

NONSENS: it depends on distance: see video from 1963 : 15 kT nuclear aboveground explosion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upshot-Knothole_Grable
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

screenshots from video:
Watching 15 kT-nuke aboveground from 10km without any shelter !!!
pbs.twimg.com/media/CNBuY2HWcAENIFc.png
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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Hmmm i was always taught that if your close enough to see the flash and the cloud then if you looked at it it would blind you
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Re: Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash
Explosion-Crater in Tianjin, 95 x 104 m, no warehouse, only parking lot !!!
image:
GoogleEarth before/after explosion with best aerial photo from crater-lake:
pbs.twimg.com/media/CMx5I9LW8AA6hdF.png = [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

Source: German, but some usefull images
homment.com/Update_China-Tianjin-Explosion_mindestens_2200t-T​NT_nuklear_nicht-21t
[link to homment.com]
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Hmmm i was always taught that if your close enough to see the flash and the cloud then if you looked at it it would blind you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64367351

This is true for the early big tests (up to 50 Megatons)
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Hmmm i was always taught that if your close enough to see the flash and the cloud then if you looked at it it would blind you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64367351

Witnesses of early nuclear explosion could see bones thrugh their hands but didn't got blind.
Only animals in the test areas !
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The crater and the compressed/broken earth around it show conclusively that this was a subsurface nuclear blast.

Somehow, the device was already in place.

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Hmmm i was always taught that if your close enough to see the flash and the cloud then if you looked at it it would blind you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64367351

Witnesses of early nuclear explosion could see bones thrugh their hands but didn't got blind.
Only animals in the test areas !
 Quoting: emanuelG


Point noted thanks for teaching me something new.
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Hmmm i was always taught that if your close enough to see the flash and the cloud then if you looked at it it would blind you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64367351

This is true for the early big tests (up to 50 Megatons)
 Quoting: emanuelG


Meant to auote this
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Notice the double flash at the moment of explosion. Loop the explosion and you can see the flashes. Thats what a "boosted" weapon does. Like thermonuclear bombs.
I won,t say anything stupid in your thread for $1.98
red this ya spastic booger eaten weirdo
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Re: Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash
was it the US ?
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Osamanoids in Eastern Asia manipulated the course of Typhoon so that it can help to wipe out Tianjin pollution above Japan, Fukuoka, which is one of the major Osamanoids cities.
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The dude was what...2 blocks away? There have been multiple people who got sunburn from as little as a tanker truck exploding. It was NOT a newk...electronic ics do not like emp and would not keep recording a clear shot of the explosion. It could have been a different sort of weapon but newks are not allowed anymore...haven't you got that memo?
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Re: Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash
The dude was what...2 blocks away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68474273

He and his girlfriend were 1 km away!
You only get sunburn from intensive UV-radiaton, not from fire
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Re: Photographer of viral China Tianjin explosion-video got sunburn from nuclear flash
The dude was what...2 blocks away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68474273

He and his girlfriend were 1 km away!
You only get sunburn from intensive UV-radiaton, not from fire
 Quoting: emanuelG


Yes but you get burns from fire. What's the difference between sun burn and a burn? Nothing.

But 1km away that's nuclear.
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The dude was what...2 blocks away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68474273

He and his girlfriend were 1 km away!
You only get sunburn from intensive UV-radiaton, not from fire
 Quoting: emanuelG


That's not quite right, you can get sunburn from heat as well, when there is excessive thermal radiation. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Last Edited by Face Palmer on 08/27/2015 06:17 AM
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Another Chinese factory exploded... so what ?

Just because this one was filmed better due to the fire starting the whole thing doesnt mean those things doesnt happen all the time in China...
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The dude was what...2 blocks away? There have been multiple people who got sunburn from as little as a tanker truck exploding. It was NOT a newk...electronic ics do not like emp and would not keep recording a clear shot of the explosion. It could have been a different sort of weapon but newks are not allowed anymore...haven't you got that memo?
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If he was 2 blocks away hw would be dead so...
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They would all be blind if it was a nuke
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They would all be dead. What do you propose the Chinese did with all the radiation OP? You seriously want to try to convince us China can hide massive amounts of radiation?
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was it the US ?
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Really ?

Fuckimg idiot...

Please stay away from the internet in the futurw... sigh...
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TBF op, I dont know if nuclear or not, BUT! i highly doubt it cos fyi... i get a tan from sitting too close to the fire!!

C'mon man! .... If this was Nuclear WE would know about it as EVERY country would be saying so etc etc

That said... IF the net IS controlled by tptb in EVERYWAY.... THEN, every message would be censored etc.
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5a

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Sheesh!
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OP, do you even science bro?

PS: You're a retard.
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OP, do you even science bro?
PS: You're a retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2620867

I've studied physics and know what I'm talking about!

TROLL
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OP, do you even science bro?
PS: You're a retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2620867

I've studied physics and know what I'm talking about!

TROLL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70171542


sbbs
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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definitely looks like a nuke

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