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WOW!!! BBC journalists covering Virginia shooting 'threatened by police,' forced to delete footage

 
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feel like we're going to be bombarded with false flags as distractions soon
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The bombardement has been ongoing for years now.
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didn't think too much of it being a "hoax" until now. What are they hiding? Victims dead. Killer dead. Why should "evidence" be deleted?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68368689


My guess...The cops pulled Williams out of the car after the crash.
Then they kicked the F*%# out of him for 5-10 minutes while he bled out from the gsw.1dunno1
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Wait just a minute...........

From the OP's link

"Strasser tweeted that he and McKelvey were told the footage “could be evidence,” and that they were forced to delete it."

That makes no sense. If it's evidence, the last thing the cops want to do is delete it. Do cops raid homes for drugs and then tell the home owner to flush the drugs because they could be used for evidence?

Something is not right here.

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LOL

Where're you from AC; anytown, U.S.A.?
Sounds like a swell place.
I'd like to go there--but it is far, far away from here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5023449


Why did you feel the need to make up a story about me because of what I posted? Something is not right about that too.

What's your agenda here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70174327


Just to make fun of people who think TV is real life, is all. Nothing personal, I assure you. I can enjoy the entertainment of professional wrestling--but I don't try to tell myself that it is real. Why are you all so emotionally involved in things that are pure speculation? The hoaxers actually have something to lose, so I understand where they are coming from; but if your side is right--what do you gain exept a race war and a (more) totalitarian regime?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5023449


Hmmm.......... really?

Fun is a means to an emotion of happiness and yet you question why other people are "emotionally involved"? How very odd of you.

And then you talk about a "race war"? Really?

You have a wild imagination, indeed.
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didn't think too much of it being a "hoax" until now. What are they hiding? Victims dead. Killer dead. Why should "evidence" be deleted?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68368689


My guess...The cops pulled Williams out of the car after the crash.
Then they kicked the F*%# out of him for 5-10 minutes while he bled out from the gsw.1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2466128


OR...............

None of that happened at all, just like nothing really happened in Ferguson.

My vote goes to nothing happened at all.
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08/27/2015 06:11 PM
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Just un-delete the video! Shouldn't the data still be there? If you delete a file on your computer, it's not really gone and can be recovered.

The storage card wasn't wiped.....un-delete the file.
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5023449 crazy NLP shill I'm tempted to report that post
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The "evidence" deletion is explained above.
 Quoting: TakingCues


It's actually not explained. Just because it's 'common practice,' doesn't make it legit. Especially in such a high profile event. Come on.
 Quoting: Anonymous-Girl


They weren't destroying actual evidence. They were destroying footage the guy had of them on the scene gathering evidence.

Now if the guy happened to be on the scene and filmed the car crashing or something like that, then you would have something here.

All that occurred though was the cop making him destroy footage that if it went public could have revealed info to the public prior to the case being processed and what not.

It's not as of the footage captured anything the cops didn't gather as evidence already or were in the process of doing.

And yes, the cop apparently didn't have the right to make the reporter delete the footage. Like I said, he overstepped his bounds by doing that. But again, cops behaving like that in general isn't all that uncommon. Many of them tend to abide their position of power or actually believe they are allowed to do certain things that aren't actually legal.

Part of the reason they behave that way though is because they rarely get in trouble for it anyhow.
 Quoting: TakingCues


That in itself is evidence. Do you not think HOW evidence is gathered is important in a case? Police mishandling of evidence, for example. Many a case has been thrown out for that very reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous-Girl


I understand what you are saying and happen to agree with you.

What I'm conveying though, because I think some were confused, is that what the cop did wasn't as if he was destroying damning information that the reporter captured. He was deleting the recording because he didn't want evidence being shown to the public before the "proper" time.

But yes, the manner in which the police gather that evidence is worth being documented however possible and when possible. So in that regard, if you think the cops were dirty and worried that this guy filmed them doing things that were questionable on the scene, then yes, you could argue that evidence was destroyed which possibly could have proven that.

But, if we're being technical here, that would have been an entirely separate crime in itself for which evidence was destroyed.

Again though, I understand what you are saying and happen to agree with you.

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This story is getting stranger by the minute.
Two BBC journalists say they were threatened by Virginia police after filming the scene where gunman Bryce Williams crashed and shot himself on Wednesday. They say a cop threatened to confiscate their camera and car if they did not delete their footage.

<50%
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 Quoting: koevtsibird


Wow, Russia Today? The news source that NEVER lies or exaggerates? This is to be taken seriously. This is me taking this seriously. You should all take this seriously. Has anyone checked with the World Weekly Star for corroboration?
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Deadppl
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The BBC was told to delete their footage. The BBC? WTF are all of these big stories coming out of the Daily Mail and the BBC. Has anyone checked into the "reporters" for the BBC who were forced to "delete" nothing. All this story is doing is giving credence to the false fact that something real happened here.

One of the reporter's names is Franz Strasser. From Wikepedia on that name:


Franz Strasser was an Austrian-German former NSDAP Kreisleiter and convicted murderer. In December 1944, in Kaplitz, Czechoslovakia, Franz Strasser killed two American allied airmen by shooting them with a Thompson submachine gun. They were members of a group of five who stayed with pilot Warren Woodruff when he landed their plane in a field. They had voluntarily surrendered and were taken away in a truck. A Captain Lindemeyer, who later committed suicide, reportedly killed the other three, and the court verdict suggests that the killings were originally Lindemeyer's idea.
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This story is getting stranger by the minute.
Two BBC journalists say they were threatened by Virginia police after filming the scene where gunman Bryce Williams crashed and shot himself on Wednesday. They say a cop threatened to confiscate their camera and car if they did not delete their footage.

<50%
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 Quoting: koevtsibird


Wow, Russia Today? The news source that NEVER lies or exaggerates? This is to be taken seriously. This is me taking this seriously. You should all take this seriously. Has anyone checked with the World Weekly Star for corroboration?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70109020


Deadppl
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[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The scary thing is, this isn't a one-off thing, the news suddenly started getting a lot more hoaxes around late 2012. People accept all of the stories and see a trend that doesn't even exist. The media, courts and first responders around the whole country are participating. There are literally tens of thousands of people that would need to be dealt with to get this back under control.


Frightening!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70139902


Question is, how could they pull it off under a police state, when virtually ALL communications are intercepted?

a. Thats maybe HOW they are pulling it off
b. That's also maybe the WHO
c. Why?
- each individual participates out of fear. greed. money.


They don't realize that their indiscretions (sex, bribes, corruption) are digital records that will be stored and used against them time and again. They are the true slaves, yet most of them feel "special" because they are "in" on the big secret, like a big club full of degenerate souls who have no idea that the national, and possibly global, witch hunt will not overlook them.

Nothing changes through the ages. No empire has ever withstood a cowardly and immoral People. Don't blame "them", we each allow it everyday. Asleep or barely awake, we close our eyes to the immorality (some feed off it) and pretend it doesn't matter. Shirk our responsibility. Our duty, and we chase after the petty desires of our hearts.
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police in the KNOW... corrupt, HIDING EVIDENCE
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I thank you, Lord God, that you are going to cast any and ALL turds involved in massive deception into the Lake of Fire.

These filthy satanic vermin absolutely deserve suffering beyond description.
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I wondered what they captured damned
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot
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So they just deleted it? wtf?

British are some fucking pussies.
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At least they're making this public!
 Quoting: Anonymous-Girl


Yeah, too fucking late now, the footage is gone.

Nothing's gonna come of this at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70156122


Nothing is really deleted unless it's written over by new data.
They can recover the deleted video with free software easily.
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The scary thing is, this isn't a one-off thing, the news suddenly started getting a lot more hoaxes around late 2012. People accept all of the stories and see a trend that doesn't even exist. The media, courts and first responders around the whole country are participating. There are literally tens of thousands of people that would need to be dealt with to get this back under control.


Frightening!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70139902


Question is, how could they pull it off under a police state, when virtually ALL communications are intercepted?

a. Thats maybe HOW they are pulling it off
b. That's also maybe the WHO
c. Why?
- each individual participates out of fear. greed. money.


They don't realize that their indiscretions (sex, bribes, corruption) are digital records that will be stored and used against them time and again. They are the true slaves, yet most of them feel "special" because they are "in" on the big secret, like a big club full of degenerate souls who have no idea that the national, and possibly global, witch hunt will not overlook them.

Best post on this story! (even better than mine~)


Nothing changes through the ages. No empire has ever withstood a cowardly and immoral People. Don't blame "them", we each allow it everyday. Asleep or barely awake, we close our eyes to the immorality (some feed off it) and pretend it doesn't matter. Shirk our responsibility. Our duty, and we chase after the petty desires of our hearts.
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Yep--cloud sync everything. You'd think this would be standard procedure by now. Of course we are talking extremely large files; so a streamed, compressed version of the HD hard copy, at least, should be automatically stored.
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if nobody minds the question, why has it not been discussed anywhere how Bryce Williams has a completely different name - Vester Flanagan (what is "Vester"? Never heard that one before)......is that like Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro? Oh, and nobody has elaborated on that absolutely/undeniably white right hand holding the pistol at 23 seconds into the shooter's video.
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I wondered what they captured damned
 Quoting: EekTheCat


The reporter who deleted the footage says himself that what he filmed was "crappy footage from far away."

So yeah, I'm not thinking anything of value was deleted.
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But don't you dare question this. Do not ask questions! This is perfectly NORMAL.
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Someone, maybe one of the reporters, said this in a thread yesterday, just dropped there and I wondered if anything would come of it.
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The scary thing is, this isn't a one-off thing, the news suddenly started getting a lot more hoaxes around late 2012. People accept all of the stories and see a trend that doesn't even exist. The media, courts and first responders around the whole country are participating. There are literally tens of thousands of people that would need to be dealt with to get this back under control.


Frightening!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70139902


Question is, how could they pull it off under a police state, when virtually ALL communications are intercepted?

a. Thats maybe HOW they are pulling it off
b. That's also maybe the WHO
c. Why?
- each individual participates out of fear. greed. money.


They don't realize that their indiscretions (sex, bribes, corruption) are digital records that will be stored and used against them time and again. They are the true slaves, yet most of them feel "special" because they are "in" on the big secret, like a big club full of degenerate souls who have no idea that the national, and possibly global, witch hunt will not overlook them.

Nothing changes through the ages. No empire has ever withstood a cowardly and immoral People. Don't blame "them", we each allow it everyday. Asleep or barely awake, we close our eyes to the immorality (some feed off it) and pretend it doesn't matter. Shirk our responsibility. Our duty, and we chase after the petty desires of our hearts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60071025


You are oozing odious comments. Have you tried putting a sock in it?

Blaming the victim for the crimes by the perpetrators is a common tactic by the New World Order.
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First off, the reporter himself says the footage was poor footage anyhow. He didn't record anything worthwhile.

Secondly, the evidence comment the reporter is so puzzled about isn't all that puzzling. The cop isn't saying he wants evidence destroyed. He's saying that that footage may contain evidence they are gathering and that they don't want it entering the public realm until the case is processed and what not.

That's pretty common practice. Now whether he had a legal right to actually make the guy delete the footage, well, it appears he did not have that right. He overstepped his boundaries there.

Which is another thing cops tend to do on an all too regular basis.
 Quoting: TakingCues


The "evidence" deletion is explained above.
 Quoting: TakingCues


Yeah, what with everyone having cell phones and cameras these days nobody ever sees a live crime scene and takes photos and uploads it, or shares on youtube, fuckbook, twitter. nope this never happens in this day and age. Those BBC reporters were the first people ever to record at a scene.
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This is procedure isn't it?
Nothing weird.
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if nobody minds the question, why has it not been discussed anywhere how Bryce Williams has a completely different name - Vester Flanagan (what is "Vester"? Never heard that one before)......is that like Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro? Oh, and nobody has elaborated on that absolutely/undeniably white right hand holding the pistol at 23 seconds into the shooter's video.
 Quoting: Bobby Bill 2779325


To the latter part of your above comment, it has been elaborated on.

It is the hand of a light-skinned black man - which is what the shooter was.

Does it look like white in some captures? Yes it does. But it has to do with the guy being light-skinned to begin with in addition to how the camera works and the lighting of the area,
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police in the KNOW... corrupt, HIDING EVIDENCE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64823178


I thank you, Lord God, that you are going to cast any and ALL turds involved in massive deception into the Lake of Fire.

These filthy satanic vermin absolutely deserve suffering beyond description.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70121510


Hmmm..........

If you want to pretend to speak "godly", why not just quote exact Bible verses? Can you do that?

You do God no service if you can't or you won't.
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They should have cameras that automatically upload to a cloud storage off-camera so that it doesn't matter if any files are deleted or camera destroyed/confiscated. In fact, I would probably just lie to the officer and tell him it doesn't matter what he does because the content is already uploaded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55611245


Further adding that if the policeman murders the reporter, that video file will be automatically uploaded as well.
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First off, the reporter himself says the footage was poor footage anyhow. He didn't record anything worthwhile.

Secondly, the evidence comment the reporter is so puzzled about isn't all that puzzling. The cop isn't saying he wants evidence destroyed. He's saying that that footage may contain evidence they are gathering and that they don't want it entering the public realm until the case is processed and what not.

That's pretty common practice. Now whether he had a legal right to actually make the guy delete the footage, well, it appears he did not have that right. He overstepped his boundaries there.

Which is another thing cops tend to do on an all too regular basis.
 Quoting: TakingCues


The "evidence" deletion is explained above.
 Quoting: TakingCues


Yeah, what with everyone having cell phones and cameras these days nobody ever sees a live crime scene and takes photos and uploads it, or shares on youtube, fuckbook, twitter. nope this never happens in this day and age. Those BBC reporters were the first people ever to record at a scene.
ohyeah
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Yeah, because that's exactly what I said, isn't it?

Anyhow, as already mentioned, the reporter himself described the footage as being "crappy" and "from far away."

Sounds like we really lost the smoking gun that would've proven this was all a hoax, doesn't it...
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Just un-delete the video! Shouldn't the data still be there? If you delete a file on your computer, it's not really gone and can be recovered.

The storage card wasn't wiped.....un-delete the file.
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Yep, do it all the time!
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Just un-delete the video! Shouldn't the data still be there? If you delete a file on your computer, it's not really gone and can be recovered.

The storage card wasn't wiped.....un-delete the file.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70073403


Its like hillarys emails.

u could easily recover all emails she sent/received to state dept folks ....by just a query for all incoming and outgoing messages that routed thru state dept server, with clintons home addy.

I guess gowdy is a dumbass
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america's 'land of the free' mantra is a fucking joke. even this place (glp) is riddled with spooks. you are property.

owned.
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Eddie Snowden says the Uk is worse. Just sayin'.
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This story is getting stranger by the minute.
Two BBC journalists say they were threatened by Virginia police after filming the scene where gunman Bryce Williams crashed and shot himself on Wednesday. They say a cop threatened to confiscate their camera and car if they did not delete their footage.

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 Quoting: koevtsibird


Wow, Russia Today? The news source that NEVER lies or exaggerates? This is to be taken seriously. This is me taking this seriously. You should all take this seriously. Has anyone checked with the World Weekly Star for corroboration?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70109020


:Deadppl:
 Quoting: Esoterica


excuse me but are you really that dumb? please tell me your not and just paranoid of rt, because you can go and see the twitter account of the cameraman/journalist and read exactly what they said themselves.

thers is no possible way that rt are making this up.





GLP