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So, we were having a discussion on mind control, and MK ULTRA, and along comes one of the perps. See the controllers in action.

 
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So, we were having a discussion on mind control, and MK ULTRA, and along comes one of the perps. See the controllers in action.
I'm going to c&p some posts from elsewhere for everyone's edification, and toward our common goal of exposing the controllers who have been behind some terrible atrocities, throughout history, up to the present. While some GLP posters may not be very familiar with the programs that fall under the general term of mind control, many others are. Because GLP has one of the most astute group of posters on any board, I trust that through reading, it will all make sense. From 9/11, to human trafficing, we are exposing these bastards, the enemies of our peace and freedom. We are in the critical mass phase, my friends, and we have TPTB on the ropes. They are scared shitless of being caught with their pants down. They thrive on secrecy. Thanks to the good people who keep fighting the good, and to Trinity, in particular, WE WILL WIN.

Bear with me, as I, collect the posts. I'll be back.
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Good luck.
Others on here have tried.
Only to be trashed to death.
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I'm back. I just had to go eat dinner, lol.

Just some quick background. On many boards, when mind control is discussed, there are not only actual MK ULTRA victims, but the spooks come out of the woodwork. Of course, it's impossible to know who they are (at this time), but ye shall know them by their fruits. We've seen this kind of shit on GLP. Some are just assholes, others are the real deal - pros.

I have been posting, for a number of years, regarding the subject of mind control. By doing so, I have made some real life friends, who were used in these programs. These people used by the controllers were tortured by some high ranking pillars of the community, from the scientific and political worlds. Mostly, this involves private contractors. Think Military Industrial Complex, and you get the picture.

In order to make a mind controlled slave - and they ARE slaves - torture is used to create multiple personalty disorder, now known as DID, or dissociative identity disorder. If you put a person through enough trauma/torture, then their brain plays an ingenious little trick. It pushes away the real person undergoing the torture, and a dissociated "alter" steps forward to take the pain. It's a survival mechanism, and the thing that kept those who did not die, alive. Some of you may have read about this. The popular film Sybil, with Sally Field, was about this very thing. The young girl who underwent the horiffic abuse, split into many personalities, or alters. Each alter, generally unknown to the others, compartmentalizes the unbearable experiences. It's very much an out of body means of coping.

The mind control programs that are run by this government, and it's private contractors, use these alters to make their slaves. Each alter comes forth as a "clean slate", and it is then that they do the programming. One person can contain many alters, all with completely different fuctions. The origianl idea, which came from the Nazis, was to create a super weapon, i.e., a Manchurian Candidate. I'm sure you've seen the films, the origianl with Frank Sinatra, and the later version with Meryl Streep. Some of the programming for these alters include such things as assassins (political), drug couriers (for the CIA/Mossad/Mafia), sex slaves (used to entertain the controllers and for political blackmail), human data storage (slaves are taken to meetings and they have audiographic memories that record EVERYTHING, and can be "accessed" with cue words and phrases by the handlers), spies, remote viewers, and just about any other thing you can think of that these bastards might like a slave for.

In nearly all cases, the programming breaks down, and the victims/slaves have some recall. For some, it's fuzzy, at best, and often masked with the "alien" abduction experience, which the controllers use to mask what really occurred during the missing time. I'm not saying this is the case with all alien contact, but it is used by the programmers. Its called "screen memory". You may have noticed that a lot of abductees also have memories involving humans being present, usually military, and in military base settings. In order to keep the programming from breaking down, victims are abducted, drugged, and tortured (usually electric shock), and the programming is reinforced. The abductee is left with missing time. In spite of that, many victims still remember, and they are the ones telling their stories, in books, and on the internet. These mind controlled slaves are called Monarchs.

These slaves are high value assets, as they contain information stored only their heads. They are tracked, and spied upon, and always harassed. It is inevitable that mind control handlers show up on internet forums, to deride, debunk, derail, and to make these whistleblowers look crazy. We see these types right here, on GLP, desperate to prevent our knowing the truth of such inside jobs as 9/11. I don't have to name, you all know them when you smell them, lol. Other than their posts, we have little proof of who and what they are, except for our common sense. Well, I have been at another board where some Monarchs have been speaking out. And BTW, these Monarchs were and are the best and the brightest. Not just anyone is used in these programs. They are articulate and they are TALKING. So, in this latest episode, a real gift fell right in our laps. One of the debunkers starting PMing one of the Monarchs with threats. He was calling her crazy, etc., on the board, but in the PMs he was a diferent person. he knew A LOT about Monarchs, how they are programmed, and the level of official involvement. He warned her to get out of her house, saying someone was coming to shut her up. It's hard to say whether it was a mind fuck to terrorize her, or if the warning was genuine. As I said, these people are pros. Psyops is their game.

What I am about to post are some things said in this conversation. I want to you see for yourselves, a handler in action. Remember, these are the people who want us to never escape the matrix, and believe me, they don't like it that we are on to them. They don't want to be the defendants at another Neuremberg (sp).

So, thanks for bearing with me. This will be worth it.
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Michael G. Vickers is Director of Strategic Studies at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. His areas of expertise are Military Strategy and Policy, Military Revolutions, Transformation of the Military, Future Warfare, and Military Research and Development. Vickers is considered one of Andrew Marshall's "acolytes."[1] ( [link to jciss.llnl.gov] ( [link to www.findarticles.com]

"Michael Vickers is a frequent writer and presenter on future warfare and transformation strategy. He served three times as an Advisor to the Defense Science Board, and led the Secretary of Defense's Summer Study on transformation strategy. He is a former Army Special Forces Officer and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Operations Officer with extensive operational experience. Mr. Vickers received a MA from the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at Johns Hopkins University, where he is completing his PhD dissertation. He holds an MBA from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania."

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]
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What is Satanist?

I wil tell you, because I was taught to be one.

It's not what you think

It's not what you have been taught.

You have been misled.

A Satanist is someone who has severed their heart from their head.

A true Satanist believe s in pure intellect.

I will tell you who exemplified a true Satanist. Edward Teller.

Edward Teller, father of the Hydrogen bomb was an Atheist.

He was also a Satanist.

There are quite a lot of Satanists in here actually.

But most of them don't know it.

Lol.

That's the problem. People think Satanism is running around in the woods making offerings and lighting fire and toasting babaies over a ritual alter. Those are Paganists.

Satanists are actually people who worsgip intellect over all else. The epitomy of left brained science is in reality, Satanism. Truly. I learned this early on when I was brought into the Pretender Progam.

I was only a youngster. at the earliest stages I was really a blank slate; Tabula Raza.

But later on when I sat on stool and "modelled" the great head devoid of of heart "Master" Teller in the Pretender (defiler_is_gay GROUP) Program where I was a surrogate "protoge," I came to understand the true nature of what that kind of mindset really was in the reality of physical nature and that kind of belief paradigm's impact on mankind and the planet as a whole.

But most of you won't understand that as you have been taught the vaklue of the left bgrain path of logic devoid of true reasoning which lies in the heart.

And the heart is somehting I am afraid too few of you really undrstand.



And if you want to know about the Jedi Knights, check out Anderw marshall, because he is Michael Vickers mentor and the one of the "founding fathers" of the paranoramal and novel projects that I was directly invioved in as a child and young adult.

Get an education;

"Marshall is the last active member in government of a cadre of strategic thinkers that took form more than fifty years ago at the original think tank, the RAND Corporation, in Santa Monica, California. The best-known member of the group, and still a hero to conservatives, was Albert Wohlstetter; other members were Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers; Herman Kahn, a model for Dr. Strangelove; and James Schlesinger, later the Secretary of Defense and the man who, in 1973, created the Office of Net Assessment and installed Marshall as its head. All these people were involved in what Kahn liked to call 'thinking the unthinkable'; that is, working through precise scenarios, based on game theory and statistics, for what would happen in the event of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. There was particular emphasis on how the United States might survive a first strike and still be able to launch a second strike.

fOR ENLIGHTENED RESEACH: [link to www.sourcewatch.org]


-OSR

(BTW - I am not OSR (Onesmartrat) - OP)
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Question for you.
I have read you post on this thread.
Have you read the info here;
www.wintersteel.com/RobertDuncanOFinioan.html

I have listened to this guy on several radio interviews and he has been telling pretty much the same thing for several years now.

Your thoughts??
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when I was "assigned" through the Cult-contractor to work under a covert paramilitary operation that used Programmed Multiples with extensive training in remote viewing and remote accessing abilities in the field under the designation "RADAR" (Remote Or "Rapid" Accessing Data Analysis and Response; U.S. Army; Psychic Warfare Dept; R&D).
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our common goal of exposing the controllers who have been behind some terrible atrocities, throughout history

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Pagans don't really roast babies, right.
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Thanks for the post, I am myself a victim of mind control research, I've been implanted and am tortured with high-pitched noises, beamed microwave radiation. There are gangs of people following me around, the level of overtness varies.

I became consciously aware of what was being done to me while I was in the University of California, Irvine physics Ph.D. program. However, I have since the pieced together a pattern of experiences in my life since I was as young as 4 years old that leads me to believe I was selected for use as an experimental victim from a young age, perhaps before I was even born. My entire family is entangled in classified mind control research, being victims and/or perpetrators both.

My web site is [link to www.geocities.com] .

Some other interesting sites:

[link to www.angelfire.com]
[link to www.mikrowellenterror.de]
[link to www.datafilter.com]

the last you'll have to look up with the internet archive ( [link to www.archive.org] ) because it's gone off-line. but you can look at the site as it existed in 2002 using the acrhive, tons of good info.

i am back in the US by the way, Germany is not a good place of refuge for victims. i may try going to cuba or venezuela.
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when I was "assigned" through the Cult-contractor to work under a covert paramilitary operation that used Programmed Multiples with extensive training in remote viewing and remote accessing abilities in the field under the designation "RADAR" (Remote Or "Rapid" Accessing Data Analysis and Response; U.S. Army; Psychic Warfare Dept; R&D).
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our common goal of exposing the controllers who have been behind some terrible atrocities, throughout history

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Please explain programmed multiple, what remote viewing and accessing abilities? More info please
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a series of articles here agt GLP about victims, each links back to previous articles so you can "crawl back" thru all of them

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

in particular there is a recorded mp3 interview with gloria naylor that gives one of the clearest, most accurate accounts of some of what a victim experiences. Gloria naylor is a national book award winning author, her gift for story-telling allows the listener to really get a feeling for what she has been put through.
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odd, why isn't this showing up in the forum list?
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The United States claims to have "clear superiority" in nuclear weapon, biological weapon and chemical weapon technologies, and has stockpiles of nuclear and other weapons sufficient to wipe out Earth's whole population.

[link to www.sourcewatch.org]

Don't worry be happy, we have everything under control.
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What is Satanist?

I wil tell you, because I was taught to be one.

It's not what you think

It's not what you have been taught.

You have been misled.

A Satanist is someone who has severed their heart from their head.

A true Satanist believe s in pure intellect.

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[link to www.red-ice.net]
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Followed your link to this.
[link to www.red-ice.net]
Does the Pentagon and the Whitehouse operate a secret sex-slave child porn ring? The evidence is becoming overwhelming. Cathy O'Brian, an ex-mind control victim and her "Handler" who controlled her, have put out a book recently called "Trance-formation of America". This book exposes the long-hidden underground agenda of the perverts in Washington. George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, Sen. Byrd and many other Congressmen and high ranking officials are involved.

This is what happened in Cathy's case: She was abused by her father, a pedophile, who took pictures of children. When he was busted they threatened him with extensive time in jail unless he turned his daughter over to "The Program".

This is how they get the kids with their parents permission. The subjects of this program were tatooed with a "Monarch Butterfly" which represents the unfolding of a "New Consciousness" within someone. "The Caterpillar into the Butterfly".

This is actually the creation of "Multiple Personality Disorder". If you look into anyone who has "MPD" you will find that most people with this disorder have a past which includes sexual abuse.

The child, when confronted with these feelings early in life, reverts to creating a second personality which CAN handle the events taking place. This "Alter" personality can then be "Summoned Up" to do a drug run, assassination, etc. as in "The Manchurian Candidate". Sirhan Sirhan, Oswald, The Post Office employees, and many other serial killers, murderers, assassins, fit the profile. Many have had hospital stays in CIA-run Psychiatric institutions. There is a pattern.

Article From: [link to www.freedomdomain.com]
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What is Satanist?

I wil tell you, because I was taught to be one.

It's not what you think

It's not what you have been taught.

You have been misled.

A Satanist is someone who has severed their heart from their head.

A true Satanist believe s in pure intellect.

I will tell you who exemplified a true Satanist. Edward Teller.

Edward Teller, father of the Hydrogen bomb was an Atheist.

He was also a Satanist.

There are quite a lot of Satanists in here actually.

But most of them don't know it.

Lol.

That's the problem. People think Satanism is running around in the woods making offerings and lighting fire and toasting babaies over a ritual alter. Those are Paganists.

Satanists are actually people who worsgip intellect over all else. The epitomy of left brained science is in reality, Satanism. Truly. I learned this early on when I was brought into the Pretender Progam.

I was only a youngster. at the earliest stages I was really a blank slate; Tabula Raza.

But later on when I sat on stool and "modelled" the great head devoid of of heart "Master" Teller in the Pretender (defiler_is_gay GROUP) Program where I was a surrogate "protoge," I came to understand the true nature of what that kind of mindset really was in the reality of physical nature and that kind of belief paradigm's impact on mankind and the planet as a whole.

But most of you won't understand that as you have been taught the vaklue of the left bgrain path of logic devoid of true reasoning which lies in the heart.

And the heart is somehting I am afraid too few of you really undrstand.



And if you want to know about the Jedi Knights, check out Anderw marshall, because he is Michael Vickers mentor and the one of the "founding fathers" of the paranoramal and novel projects that I was directly invioved in as a child and young adult.

Get an education;

"Marshall is the last active member in government of a cadre of strategic thinkers that took form more than fifty years ago at the original think tank, the RAND Corporation, in Santa Monica, California. The best-known member of the group, and still a hero to conservatives, was Albert Wohlstetter; other members were Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers; Herman Kahn, a model for Dr. Strangelove; and James Schlesinger, later the Secretary of Defense and the man who, in 1973, created the Office of Net Assessment and installed Marshall as its head. All these people were involved in what Kahn liked to call 'thinking the unthinkable'; that is, working through precise scenarios, based on game theory and statistics, for what would happen in the event of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. There was particular emphasis on how the United States might survive a first strike and still be able to launch a second strike.

fOR ENLIGHTENED RESEACH: [link to www.sourcewatch.org]


-OSR

(BTW - I am not OSR (Onesmartrat) - OP)
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This is very, very accurate!
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So who is 'OSR' or otherwise known as 'OneSmartRat'

Former Psyops Operations Specialist; Central Intelligence Agency
(Intelligence gathering and data analyst and part of parapsychological "psychic warrior" applications)

PSI-Ops; Psychic Warrior Unit; Research and Development, Dept. of Psychic Warfare; U.S. Army

Army Covert Ops; SAP (Special Access Program); INSCOM (Intelligence Security Command) U.S. Army (Civilian "Secret Army" program)

Translations Expert :ancient manuscripts/scrolls/texts ; mobile unit/Cult contractor; SRI; Stanford Research Institute

Embedded Behavior Patterns and Psychological Profiles Specialist; F.B.I. training through "civilian" Cult contractor

Foreign Intelligence Expert/ Data Analysis; Foreign Intelligence Service (FIS) civilian contractor

Remote ("Rapid") Accessing Data Analysis and Response (RADAR Unit); US Army PSI-Ops "Shadowland" Unit

"Pretender"/defiler_is_gay GROUP protege; Stanford Research International/RAND Institute; Primary Contractor; U.S. Military/Intel under D.A.R.P.A. and Pentagon oversight

Occult-trained Assassin

Psychic Savant; SRI; age four

Remote Viewer/ Remote Asccesser; "Walker" ; SRI/RAND Institute; General Dynamics Technology, Contractor. "Spacetech" Stargate Project analogue

Intergenerational Bloodline Nobility on both sides of family

Genius IQ/ Natural Empath/Medium/Psychic

Monarch Project survivor

"Alien Abductee"

Satanic Ritual Abuse survivor

Novel Thinker

Mutli-generational Incarnation within same bloodline

Occultist

Prisoner

Slave

Gladiator

Warrior-Poet

Revolutionary

Pro Libertate!
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and....welcome to the One Smart Rat's Glee culb!!!
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Alright, here is some of what is being revealed. I'll get to the threats and containment efforts in a bit.
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Waiting to see their techniques in action.
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Why the hell would any government organisation (who probably has many better things to do...) want to control the minds of a few lazy bums who post lame-ass messages on a conspiracy forum. Why? Because you want to feel important, you want to feel special. "LOOK GUYS, I AM UNIQUE. WELL, PARTLY. MY MIND IS BEING CONTROLLED!" Megalomania.

Sorry, but this shit doesn't fly for me. Instead of looking for like-minded individuals, why not seek a psychiatrist. He'll be able to help you.
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Why the hell would any government organisation (who probably has many better things to do...) want to control the minds of a few lazy bums who post lame-ass messages on a conspiracy forum. Why? Because you want to feel important, you want to feel special. "LOOK GUYS, I AM UNIQUE. WELL, PARTLY. MY MIND IS BEING CONTROLLED!" Megalomania.

Sorry, but this shit doesn't fly for me. Instead of looking for like-minded individuals, why not seek a psychiatrist. He'll be able to help you.
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Wow, you suck.
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Why the hell would any government organisation (who probably has many better things to do...) want to control the minds of a few lazy bums who post lame-ass messages on a conspiracy forum. Why? Because you want to feel important, you want to feel special. "LOOK GUYS, I AM UNIQUE. WELL, PARTLY. MY MIND IS BEING CONTROLLED!" Megalomania.

Sorry, but this shit doesn't fly for me. Instead of looking for like-minded individuals, why not seek a psychiatrist. He'll be able to help you.
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Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

So...it doesn't fly for you. Fine. You've spoken your mind. How about you have some decency and let those that would like to discuss, discuss.
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What you are reading so far had only to do with military applications.

Megaprogrammtic steps for the masses are in place, have been for years. For thorough and rapid washing of the minds, it is imperative to get them young. They work exceedingly well with trauma induction, which provides the blank slate for reconstruction.

The education system was one of the first ways of promotion. As a mechinism for conformity, school is a social control.
Ever hear of the terms, 'herd instinct'? It appears during severe epidemics, but wartime takes the cake. The basis is to induce a common danger to increase the anxiety levels for mass suggestibility.

It has now come down to the highly effective, yet simple, information control. You see examples of this through the daily media. With the mass communication they provide you with disinformation, misdirection, and propaganda.

The rabbit hole goes much deeper, just how far are you willing to dig?
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Just like the Matrix..MC is very real, and has many forms. Mine was a multi-generational. Bondage of the mind in its highest form. From a baby till my children were grown, it haunted my life, my actions. Then the miracle happened, and I was set free. Now I fight in the Spirit, against them and the gates of hell will NOT prevail..
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And the US accuses Iran of factions in their goverment.

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Re: So, we were having a discussion on mind control, and MK ULTRA, and along comes one of the perps. See the controllers in action.
"That's the problem. People think Satanism is running around in the woods making offerings and lighting fire and toasting babaies over a ritual alter. Those are Paganists."

Sorry OP. This is where I chose not to read any futher. I do believe in mind controll and it does have a long history...

...but to an extent, you have fell victom to the very concern you write about if you believe that "Paganists" fry babies in the woods..

..utter BS, sorry.


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