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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69533974 Canada 09/03/2015 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CERN is being funded by the Khazars (aka. rothschilds, rockefellers etc) they are zionists and not jews, many different last names but the same bloodline, they made a pact with the devil a long time ago to completely own this planet now they will use CERN to smash a hole into time/space to allow for Satans dimension to be connected with ours so that he can return and rule together with them as they had originally promised him hence all of the blood sacrifices over the years, also why the Pope will be at the UN during the Blood Moon |
moran User ID: 70176822 United States 09/03/2015 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I can say is... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70181907 People who don't believe in hell is going to get a very nasty surprise. And it is not what you think... hell is pagan nonsense. not even a Christian or Jewish idea. Agreed. If it were real, why did God not mention it when sentencing Cain, world's first murderer? In fact He made not one peep about it to Adam & Eve, Noah, Abraham, or even Moses, to whom He issued volumes of detailed directives, including information on such mundane topics as how to menstruate. The punchline is that catholicism itself erected the belief in hellfire about the 4th or 5th century when they paganized everything - up until then, the early christian church largely believed in the eventual redemption of everyone, with God's "fires" applied for cleansing and not literal torture/annihilation. The good news is that the Son of Man is come not to destroy people, but to *save* them. [link to biblehub.com] Morons, all of you. You can call folks whatever you like, but actually doing some homework is a pretty good way to find the "deep things of God" and wake up from the Laodicean spam we've been fed for so long. Here are the scriptural definitions of said "fire": "Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24) "Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23 He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104) fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4 Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20, 1 Kings 8 A "fiery law" proceeded from God's right hand - Deuteronomy 33 >> It's not literal fire. It's symbolism for things which *function* like fire. << The "lake of fire" is an immersion in ^^ these ^^ things. A world governed by God's Kingdom. The "fiery law" mentioned in Deuteronomy 33 is further defined in Daniel 7:10 as a river originating from God's throne. Isaiah 60 points out that the gates of new Jerusalem remain open for the purpose of bringing the kings and armies of the world *within*. The "lost" bathe in the "lake", outside the "city", only until they're ready to come into the "city" and become a citizen. Like those of us already serving God, this is largely just a matter of our "old self" dying ("the desire of the wicked shall perish" - Psalm 112). Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies. The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . . Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3 "By Mercy and Truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16 "The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The *desire* of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112 The glory of the Lord seemed like a consuming fire to the children of Israel - Exodus 24 It was by fire that He revealed His Law to them. Moses went right up to it, but the masses were afraid. . . "For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5 -->> Fire was equated with hearing His voice In Zecharaiah 2:5, God promises to personally be a wall of fire around New Jerusalem. In both Isaiah 26 and 60, these walls are also said to consist of "salvation". Again Fire and Salvation go hand-in-hand. The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility. All through the Laws of Moses, fire is what made the offerings acceptable and pleasing to God. After Israel defeated an enemy, all the gold, silver, brass, iron, tin and lead were to be purified by fire. . . Paraphrased, "Everything that can withstand fire must go through fire, by which it shall be made clean. Any other materials which *cannot* withstand fire must be purified by water." - Numbers 31 In the first century, Paul writes that "all Israel shall be saved" (Romans 11:26). But 800 years earlier, Isaiah tells us that God set Israel on fire (Isaiah 42:25). Why would God subject Israel to fire if they're going to be saved? We learn here that being subjected to fire is no hindrance to nor disqualification from being saved - experience in the fire typically *promotes* salvation: "All shall be salted with fire" "He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire" And just what type of "fire" was this that they didn't even notice they were on fire?! (see above) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24497831 United States 09/03/2015 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed. If it were real, why did God not mention it when sentencing Cain, world's first murderer? In fact He made not one peep about it to Adam & Eve, Noah, Abraham, or even Moses, to whom He issued volumes of detailed directives, including information on such mundane topics as how to menstruate. The punchline is that catholicism itself erected the belief in hellfire about the 4th or 5th century when they paganized everything - up until then, the early christian church largely believed in the eventual redemption of everyone, with God's "fires" applied for cleansing and not literal torture/annihilation. The good news is that the Son of Man is come not to destroy people, but to *save* them. [link to biblehub.com] Morons, all of you. You can call folks whatever you like, but actually doing some homework is a pretty good way to find the "deep things of God" and wake up from the Laodicean spam we've been fed for so long. Here are the scriptural definitions of said "fire": "Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24) "Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23 He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104) fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4 Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20, 1 Kings 8 A "fiery law" proceeded from God's right hand - Deuteronomy 33 >> It's not literal fire. It's symbolism for things which *function* like fire. << The "lake of fire" is an immersion in ^^ these ^^ things. A world governed by God's Kingdom. The "fiery law" mentioned in Deuteronomy 33 is further defined in Daniel 7:10 as a river originating from God's throne. Isaiah 60 points out that the gates of new Jerusalem remain open for the purpose of bringing the kings and armies of the world *within*. The "lost" bathe in the "lake", outside the "city", only until they're ready to come into the "city" and become a citizen. Like those of us already serving God, this is largely just a matter of our "old self" dying ("the desire of the wicked shall perish" - Psalm 112). Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies. The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . . Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3 "By Mercy and Truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16 "The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The *desire* of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112 The glory of the Lord seemed like a consuming fire to the children of Israel - Exodus 24 It was by fire that He revealed His Law to them. Moses went right up to it, but the masses were afraid. . . "For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5 -->> Fire was equated with hearing His voice In Zecharaiah 2:5, God promises to personally be a wall of fire around New Jerusalem. In both Isaiah 26 and 60, these walls are also said to consist of "salvation". Again Fire and Salvation go hand-in-hand. The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility. All through the Laws of Moses, fire is what made the offerings acceptable and pleasing to God. After Israel defeated an enemy, all the gold, silver, brass, iron, tin and lead were to be purified by fire. . . Paraphrased, "Everything that can withstand fire must go through fire, by which it shall be made clean. Any other materials which *cannot* withstand fire must be purified by water." - Numbers 31 In the first century, Paul writes that "all Israel shall be saved" (Romans 11:26). But 800 years earlier, Isaiah tells us that God set Israel on fire (Isaiah 42:25). Why would God subject Israel to fire if they're going to be saved? We learn here that being subjected to fire is no hindrance to nor disqualification from being saved - experience in the fire typically *promotes* salvation: "All shall be salted with fire" "He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire" And just what type of "fire" was this that they didn't even notice they were on fire?! (see above) [link to biblehub.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24497831 United States 09/03/2015 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70176822 United States 09/03/2015 02:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I can say is... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70181907 People who don't believe in hell is going to get a very nasty surprise. And it is not what you think... hell is pagan nonsense. not even a Christian or Jewish idea. Agreed. If it were real, why did God not mention it when sentencing Cain, world's first murderer? In fact He made not one peep about it to Adam & Eve, Noah, Abraham, or even Moses, to whom He issued volumes of detailed directives, including information on such mundane topics as how to menstruate. The punchline is that catholicism itself erected the belief in hellfire about the 4th or 5th century when they paganized everything - up until then, the early christian church largely believed in the eventual redemption of everyone, with God's "fires" applied for cleansing and not literal torture/annihilation. The good news is that the Son of Man is come not to destroy people, but to *save* them. Sounds like the fantasies of demons to be honest. Why would God want to torture His creation in "hell"? He wouldn't. It comes from those who were burning "witches" at the stake. AKA anyone who didn't bow to the false church That's the stuff. It's essentially doom-porn. In fact, it's worth noting that the worst of those "visions of hellfire" type videos always seem to come from South America. Michael Jackson in hell, etc. Maybe it's worth questioning what goes on down there that they're so prone to that crap. . . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70176822 United States 09/03/2015 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24497831 Hebrews 10 Those who have "received knowledge of the truth" - those would be Christians, then, yes? And not the run-of-the-mill masses of blind captives bound under the coercion of the world and the devil? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24497831 United States 09/03/2015 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24497831 Hebrews 10 Those who have "received knowledge of the truth" - those would be Christians, then, yes? And not the run-of-the-mill masses of blind captives bound under the coercion of the world and the devil? Everybody heard of Jesus, no one has any excuse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70176822 United States 09/03/2015 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24497831 Hebrews 10 Those who have "received knowledge of the truth" - those would be Christians, then, yes? And not the run-of-the-mill masses of blind captives bound under the coercion of the world and the devil? Everybody heard of Jesus, no one has any excuse. OK, but if the Father hasn't revealed Him to them - like He did with Peter - how can they truly know, and truly believe and trust? It remains mere information that the carnal mind cannot absorb. Pete declared Jesus as Christ, and Jesus said that flesh & blood did not reveal that to him - The Father did. It took personal intervention from God to get it through to him, yes? It's not exactly the same gig as passing out tracts on halloween or whatever ;) I'll be glad to come up with all kinds of excuses for them; over and over, scripture speaks of mankind as captives. Slaves to sin. Slaves aren't exactly known for having a whole lot of freedom, are they? They need *freed*, perhaps by people who were once in those same shoes, now compassionate, willing & able to bring redemption and hope instead of callously declaring that they have no excuse and are screwed. No offense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24497831 United States 09/03/2015 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24497831 Hebrews 10 Those who have "received knowledge of the truth" - those would be Christians, then, yes? And not the run-of-the-mill masses of blind captives bound under the coercion of the world and the devil? Everybody heard of Jesus, no one has any excuse. OK, but if the Father hasn't revealed Him to them - like He did with Peter - how can they truly know, and truly believe and trust? It remains mere information that the carnal mind cannot absorb. Pete declared Jesus as Christ, and Jesus said that flesh & blood did not reveal that to him - The Father did. It took personal intervention from God to get it through to him, yes? It's not exactly the same gig as passing out tracts on halloween or whatever ;) I'll be glad to come up with all kinds of excuses for them; over and over, scripture speaks of mankind as captives. Slaves to sin. Slaves aren't exactly known for having a whole lot of freedom, are they? They need *freed*, perhaps by people who were once in those same shoes, now compassionate, willing & able to bring redemption and hope instead of callously declaring that they have no excuse and are screwed. No offense. [link to biblehub.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70181907 United States 09/03/2015 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24497831 Hebrews 10 Those who have "received knowledge of the truth" - those would be Christians, then, yes? And not the run-of-the-mill masses of blind captives bound under the coercion of the world and the devil? Everybody heard of Jesus, no one has any excuse. I'll be glad to come up with all kinds of excuses for them; over and over, scripture speaks of mankind as captives. Slaves to sin. Slaves aren't exactly known for having a whole lot of freedom, are they? They need *freed*, perhaps by people who were once in those same shoes, now compassionate, willing & able to bring redemption and hope instead of callously declaring that they have no excuse and are screwed. No offense. Path to redemption is personal. Just as the road heaven and hell. No one can redeem you but yourself. So in retrospect you got no one to blame but yourself should you unknowingly enter the path. You still got a lot to learn. but patience is a virtue. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69145238 United States 09/03/2015 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i like to think that when i die, I'll find myself suddenly in the middle of a John Carpenter worthy hell.. but then the backdrops fall and masks come off while Jesus & Friends are pointing and laughing at me crying in fear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69145238 if there's a higher sense of humor, i just fuken set myself up. god dammit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62643457 United States 09/03/2015 03:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.” Quoting: sacred energy [link to www.genechy.com] Your god is Lucifer! |
SpaceCommand User ID: 68164291 United States 09/03/2015 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ncregister.com] Don’t fall for this Pope Francis hoax: 5 things to know and share Some Internet sites are reporting that Pope Francis has declared that “all religions are true,” that there is no hell, and other provocative things. But the whole thing is an Internet hoax. Here are 5 things to know and share . . . Read more: [link to www.ncregister.com] "With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God. John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests: "Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world." "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70236596 Germany 09/03/2015 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus talked about the reality of hell — in fact, He talked about it more than any other person in the Bible. He warned, “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matthew 10:28). What the Pope says doesn´t matter - IT MATTER WHAT GOD SAYS. The Pope is an ordinary man who is exalted to a position in the Catholic Church and if he usurps the authority of God then there is something wrong! He should agree with everything God´s word says and what Jesus said. The reality of hell should frighten us, because not one word in the Bible about hell would ever make you want to go there — not if you take it seriously. The Bible speaks of hell as a place of absolute loneliness and despair and hopelessness. It calls it a place of “darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 22:13). But Jesus didn’t talk about hell just to scare us. He talked about it instead because He wanted us to know that God has provided a way of escape! Listen: God doesn’t want you to be separated from Him forever. He loves you, and He wants you to spend eternity with Him in heaven. Unlike hell, heaven is a place of joy and peace and freedom from all the fears and pains of this world. Who wouldn’t want to go there? Don’t gamble with your soul, and don’t turn your back on Jesus. Instead, by faith turn to Christ and commit your life to Him. He alone gives us hope — hope for today, and hope for eternity. |
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Judethz User ID: 69883546 United Kingdom 09/03/2015 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is absolutely right! I have known that consciousness, which only reinforces my disbelief in the god of the OT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53728645 Christians believe in everything they read without question. There is no room for fear at that level. Hell is a state of mind. Hell is very real, as you will find out to your eternal horror if you die in your sins. THIS WAS YOUR LIFE!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)] |
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SeektheTruth330 User ID: 11411229 United States 09/03/2015 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.” Quoting: sacred energy [link to www.genechy.com] A one world religion perhaps? Truth is stranger than fiction |