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Why Bush Will Nuke Iran

 
LTC Peachblossom
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For an untrained mind, how can this idea even be possible? I think this article provides some sort of explanation.

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Why Bush Will Nuke Iran

By Paul Craig Roberts

[link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]

09/26/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- The neoconservative Bush administration will attack Iran with tactical nuclear weapons, because it is the only way the neocons believe they can rescue their goal of US (and Israeli) hegemony in the Middle East.

The US has lost the war in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Generals in both war theaters are stating their need for more troops. But there are no troops to send.

Bush has tried to pawn Afghanistan off on NATO, but Europe does not see any point in sacrificing its blood and money for the sake of American hegemony. The NATO troops in Afghanistan are experiencing substantial casualties from a revived Taliban, and European governments are not enthralled over providing cannon fodder for US hegemony.

The “coalition of the willing” has evaporated. Indeed, it never existed. Bush’s “coalition” was assembled with bribes, threats, and intimidation. Pervez Musharraf, the American puppet ruler of Pakistan, let the cat out of the bag when he told CBS “60 Minutes” on September 24, 2006, that Pakistan had no choice about joining the “coalition.” Brute coercion was applied. Musharraf said Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage told the Pakistani intelligence director that “you are with us” or “be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age.” Armitage is trying to deny his threat, but Dawn Wire Service, reporting from Islamabad on September 16, 2001, on the pressure Bush was putting on Musharraf to facilitate the US attack on Afghanistan, states: “’Pakistan has the option to live in the 21st century or the Stone Age’ is roughly how US officials are putting their case.”

That Musharraf would volunteer this information on American television is a good indication that Bush has lost the war. Musharraf can no longer withstand the anger he has created against himself by helping the US slaughter his fellow Muslims in Bush’s attempt to exercise US hegemony over the Muslim world. Bush cannot protect Musharraf from the wrath of Pakistanis, and so Musharraf has explained himself as having cooperated with Bush in order to prevent the US destruction of Pakistan: “One has to think and take actions in the interest of the nation, and that’s what I did.” Nevertheless, he said, he refused Bush’s “ludicrous” demand that he arrest Pakistanis who publicly demonstrated against the US: “If somebody’s expressing views, we cannot curb the expression of views.”

Bush’s defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel’s defeat by Hezbollah in Lebanon have shown that the military firepower of the US and Israeli armies, though effective against massed Arab armies, cannot defeat guerillas and insurgencies. The US has battled in Iraq longer than it fought against Nazi Germany, and the situation in Iraq is out of control. The Taliban have regained half of Afghanistan. The King of Saudi Arabia has told Bush that the ground is shaking under his feet as unrest over the American/Israeli violence against Muslims builds to dangerous levels. Our Egyptian puppet sits atop 100 million Muslims who do not think that Egypt should be a lackey of US hegemony. The King of Jordan understands that Israeli policy is to drive every Palestinian into Jordan.

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Yep.
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"Neocons have also concluded that a US nuclear strike on Iran would show the entire Muslim world that it is useless to resist America’s will. Neocons say that even the most fanatical terrorists would realize the hopelessness of resisting US hegemony. The vast multitude of Muslims would realize that they have no recourse but to accept their fate."
any sensible person will tell you that is not true. If a Muslim or any other country knows that they have no hope, then they might as well all die and take some enemies with them rather than be enslaved. Bush's argument does not stand. They have it totally wrong and will end up paying a heavy price for it.
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Peachblossom,

I have found you very levelheaded and peaceful in the past, but why would you now paste this article which is yet another "America is terrible" left-wing diatribe, by a buffoon of a writer who seems interested in using the word "hegemony" as many times as possible ?

America is NOT at fault for Islamic terrorism.

It is the Islamists' desire and mission to conquer the world for Islam. In fact, they insist that eventually the entire world will embrace Islam.This can only mean they intend to murder everyone who will not submit to their wishes.

They are so dangerous precisely because they believe they are "serving " Allah, by murdering infidels.

Please wake up to this, the greatest threat the world has ever seen.
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Peachblossom,

I have found you very levelheaded and peaceful in the past, but why would you now paste this article which is yet another "America is terrible" left-wing diatribe, by a buffoon of a writer who seems interested in using the word "hegemony" as many times as possible ?

America is NOT at fault for Islamic terrorism.

It is the Islamists' desire and mission to conquer the world for Islam. In fact, they insist that eventually the entire world will embrace Islam.This can only mean they intend to murder everyone who will not submit to their wishes.

They are so dangerous precisely because they believe they are "serving " Allah, by murdering infidels.

Please wake up to this, the greatest threat the world has ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21


I'm sorry, AC21, but I disagree with your assessment. When comparing threat images, I can come to no other conclusion than US & Israel being the greatest threats to humanity at the present time. I make my assessment mainly on observations of past behavior, which in my mind is the only reasonable guide to assess projected future behavior.

That said, I'm not saying this is among the best articles I've quoted on this subject.


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i dont know...i think maybe the communist/arab allience is more dangerous.lol
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"Neocons have also concluded that a US nuclear strike on Iran would show the entire Muslim world that it is useless to resist America’s will. Neocons say that even the most fanatical terrorists would realize the hopelessness of resisting US hegemony. The vast multitude of Muslims would realize that they have no recourse but to accept their fate."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 122539



Well there you have it.

See, they are trying to do the same to us, forcing us to accept their version of our fate which is submission to islam.

The storm is coming, batten down the hatches.
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Well there you have it.

See, they are trying to do the same to us, forcing us to accept their version of our fate which is submission to islam.

The storm is coming, batten down the hatches.
 Quoting: Self Defense 148422


Man, you're so full of shit it must come pouring out of your ears.

The idea that there is an organized front that aims to CONQUER THE WESTERN WORLD and force us to convert to Islam is just about as FUCKING RETARDED as the equally stupid belief that Jews control the Queen of England from inner earth.

While not ignoring the fact that fanatical Islam DOES exist and it should be combatted, IGNORING why it DOES exist and what their GREIVANCES ARE is the quick and easy way to ensure this conflict that only benefits some fat shitheads in the military industrial complex GOES ON FOREVER, because tell me Mr. Brighteyes, how the fuck do you bomb or shoot AN IDEAL?

Funny, where were the terrorist attacks against countries like Sweden? Finland? Italy? Canada? Where are the hordes of Muslims on their magic carpets who are going to force feed the western world falaffels and hummus, huh? GIVE ME A BREAK, moron! Turn off the Stupid Box and learn how to THINK FOR YOURSELF instead of being such a god damn PARROT for paranoid propaganda.
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Why are America-haters always so interested in what the terrorists' "grievances" are ?

( as though it somehow justifies the attacks - NOT )

When the Iranians took hundreds of U.S. citizens hostage in the 1970's, does it matter what their "grievances" are ?

No, we should have just killed them all.
You cannot coddle or reason with terrorists.

When blacks riot and loot in Los Angeles,THAT behavior is already worse than whatever they are complaining about.


The ONLY moral way to address perceived grievances is through non-violent protest, the court of public opinion, and reason.

If middle-eastern muslims "feel insulted, or feel oppressed", the answer to that is TOUGH SHIT. Grow up.

If the prophet Mohammed is maligned, and they decide to start MURDERING people because of an "insult", we have the right to kill them.

Muslim extremists did not "protest" on 9/11, they murdered innocent people, who were not soldiers.We must hunt them down.
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i really don't care what the grievances of the terrorists are. solve one grievance and they find ten other reasons to go on a killing spree somewhere.

i don't think the USA will nuke Iran unless Iran nukes us first or gives/sells mini-nukes to a terrorist group that does. If they do that, there will simply be no more Tehran a few hours later - whether it is Bush in office or the next guy.

The public will demand no less and the muslim world would respect nothing less.
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In fact, they insist that eventually the entire world will embrace Islam.This can only mean they intend to murder everyone who will not submit to their wishes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21

Slanderous nonsense.

Christian belief insists that eventually, the entire world will embrace Christ. This is not a recipe for mass murder but a hope for worldwide peace. Sensible Muslims take an analogous view. In general, *every* evangelizing religion hopes for eventual universal acceptance of its message--by the very definition of evangelization.

Yes, there are extremists in every religion, and in every philosophy. Heaven knows there are plenty of self-classified Christians who want to bomb everyone who displeases them--but they do not speak for the Christian faith itself.
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If middle-eastern muslims "feel insulted, or feel oppressed", the answer to that is TOUGH SHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21

Are you willing to use equally strong language against the American administration, which wants to bomb any country that displeases it? When members of the American administration whine about Iran or Venezuela, are you willing to shut them up in equally strong terms?
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Why are America-haters always so interested in what the terrorists' "grievances" are ?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21

I say do them a favor and send them all to see their virgins. abomb
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If middle-eastern muslims "feel insulted, or feel oppressed", the answer to that is TOUGH SHIT.
Are you willing to use equally strong language against the American administration, which wants to bomb any country that displeases it? When members of the American administration whine about Iran or Venezuela, are you willing to shut them up in equally strong terms?
 Quoting: Old-fashioned Catholic

Judging by your name you better think twice about them islamic boys. They want to get your kind. jihad
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Bush is doing Israel's commands. Thats why we went to war with Iraq. Saddam was Israel's greatest enemy then. So he was eliminated. Besides going to war gives the Defense Department more millions and our Congress gives it to him, why? Why, because there is money to be made by way of deception thou shalt do war. Lets see didn't the President of Iran doubt the Holocaust? Israel is a vengeful warmonger and Iran is next. Think of all the trillions we have given to Israel since President Johnson was in office and it was he who began freely giving Israel billions each year and we still do, why?
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And now for the intellectual spanking of :Anonymous Coward

"Why are America-haters always so interested in what the terrorists' "grievances" are ?"
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Even Robert McNamara, archetic of the Vietnam war, knows enough that you have to understand your enemy if you're even going to bother taking them on....but I guess you are ALOT more versed in the world, life, and geopolitics than the former Secretary of Defense....
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"When the Iranians took hundreds of U.S. citizens hostage in the 1970's, does it matter what their "grievances" are ? No, we should have just killed them all. You cannot coddle or reason with terrorists."

Yeah, TELL THAT TO OLLIE NORTH and THE PRESIDENT'S FATHER, or have you CONVENIENTLY purged IRAN CONTRA from your memory? Trading coke for guns to sell to the Iranians in exchange for the hostages sounds like CODDLING and REASONING to me.
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"The ONLY moral way to address perceived grievances is through non-violent protest, the court of public opinion, and reason."

YET here you are cheering on the notion of carpet bombing an entire country to bring those people "freedom". Here you are NOT wanting the UN or the IAEA do ITS work, just like last time. You CONTRADICT YOURSELF, moron!
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"Muslim extremists did not "protest" on 9/11, they murdered innocent people, who were not soldiers.We must hunt them down."

Blah blah blah, how many of the so called "Muslim Extremists" have we ACTUALLY caught or killed who had ANYTHING to do with 9/11?

AND WHAT DOES 9/11 HAVE TO DO WITH INVADING IRAN?
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LOGIC once again trumps JINGOISM and GROUPTHINK.
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He needs a diversion while he rounds up all the patriots

Also, withina short time the US people will be calling for UN troops on their streets

BINGO!

P.R.S.

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war = full employment
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war = full employment
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and that does seem to be the bottom line .

as long as its not me that getting bombed

what the hell ,

pass the pork chops
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as long as its not me that getting bombed

what the hell ,

pass the pork chops
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Ain't that the truth? :`(
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America is NOT at fault for Islamic terrorism.

BULLSHIT

It is the Islamists' desire and mission to conquer the world for Islam.

BULLSHIT

In fact, they insist that eventually the entire world will embrace Islam.This can only mean they intend to murder everyone who will not submit to their wishes.

BULLSHIT

They are so dangerous precisely because they believe they are "serving " Allah, by murdering infidels.

BULLSHIT

Please wake up to this, the greatest threat the world has ever seen.

BULLSHIT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21


:history: :bushhitler:
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>>Neocons believe that a nuclear attack on Iran would have intimidating force throughout the Middle East and beyond. Iran would not dare retaliate, neocons believe, against US ships, US troops in Iraq, or use their missiles against oil facilities in the Middle East.<<

boy! are they in for a shock!.... again...
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