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FERMI 2 REACTOR MICHIGAN - ONGOING EVENT - BIG PROBLEMS

 
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Multiple problems at site, Monroe MI/Lake Erie (SE Michigan)

Reactor is in Hot Shutdown

Large leak in turbine pump hose, but there's more.

Unisolable leak in feedwater system. Meaning, they can't find it.

Water level was 137 inches at lowest, at least that is what is being reported...meaning fuel have been uncovered.

Anyone local with eyes on this plant?

The NRC event is detailed here with add'l info detailing new leaks, etc.

[link to www.nrc.gov]

If the cooling system is compromised, well. More on that later, hopefully it won't be necessary to discuss the ramifications of having a nuclear meltdown next to the largest freshwater lake system in the world. Oh, wait, they already had one there in 1966...

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"At 1847 EDT on September 14, 2015, a valid automatic Reactor Protection System (RPS) actuation occurred due to Reactor Water Level 3 while shutdown in MODE 3. Operators were manually controlling Reactor Pressure Vessel (RPV) level and pressure with Reactor Core Isolation Cooling (RCIC) and Safety Relief Valves (SRV). While operators were cycling SRVs, the RPV level went below the Level 3 setpoint. Operators promptly restored RPV level by manual operation of RCIC. The Level 3 actuation and associated isolations were verified to operate properly.

"The scram signal has been reset. Fermi 2 remains in MODE 3 controlling RPV Level and Pressure through manual operation of RCIC and SRVs.

"This is the second occurrence of a valid specified safety system actuation reportable under 10CFR50.72(b)(3)(iv)(A) for this ongoing event."
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Right now they are manually controlling feedwater (to keep hot rods covered) and the pressure in reactor vessel by playing with the relief valves...

They are still trying to find the second leak. It must be a biggie to drop in danger zone twice for one event.
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can someone give me a laments summary. im not too familiar with these terms
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Right now they are manually controlling feedwater (to keep hot rods covered) and the pressure in reactor vessel by playing with the relief valves...

They are still trying to find the second leak. It must be a biggie to drop in danger zone twice for one event.
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I dont know jack about squat when it comes to anything in that description but if you're right and thats all a really big deal......holy fuck I'm worried for the people up there. :(
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Don't get too excited that shit will blow right over to Windsor first.

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Right now they are manually controlling feedwater (to keep hot rods covered) and the pressure in reactor vessel by playing with the relief valves...

They are still trying to find the second leak. It must be a biggie to drop in danger zone twice for one event.
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Holy shit.

Bump to follow....thanks for the updates....and pin!
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can someone give me a laments summary. im not too familiar with these terms
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Neither does anybody else, just a bunch of parrots posting/repeating what they've heard. Welcome to GLP!
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Scientists are a threat to us all.
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can someone give me a laments summary. im not too familiar with these terms
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Neither does anybody else, just a bunch of parrots posting/repeating what they've heard. Welcome to GLP!
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go figure

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World wind map.

[link to earth.nullschool.net]
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can someone give me a laments summary. im not too familiar with these terms
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All of the various systems to keep a reactor powered up seem to have failed at once.

It started with a leak, which they fixed - but pressure was still wonky.

Then water dropped to dangerous low level for no apparent reason.

They started manually "controlling" pressure and then found the water system has some totally new leak somewhere else, which they can't seem to find. But they know it's happening.

At some point while looking for other mysterious leak the water dropped AGAIN, so they are pumping and keeping water in and controlling relief pressures manually...which you only do in a fairly extreme emergency.

Next few hours very important, they have to maintain water over rods or you can get something like this:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

FERMI 2 is the same style of reactor as Fukushima.

As this plant sits right on the Great Lakes it would be very bad if things got out of hand there. They had a partial meltdown there in 1966.
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When will governmnets learn FUCK NUCLEAR POWER... Its sickening how Japan forgot about fukushima and fired up all its nuke plants once again, putting the planet at risk again!

There is 10,000 times more sunlight energy reaching the earths surface than our entire current energy needs.

All we need is photovoltaics.
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World wind map.

[link to earth.nullschool.net]
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Thanks for that. Anyone local with a geiger counter keep an eye out, or report any unusual activity at plant.

We need readings for Michigan, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania & Ontario Canada in case these f*ckers let this situation get out of control. We will know before it's announced.
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Can we get a pine?

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We need a pine on this asap!
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Description of first leak:

"The leak rate was reported as approximately 5-10 gallons per minute from a weld on the standby feedwater pump header drain valve F326. The licensee reported the leak stopped once RCIC was placed into service."

...but then something else leaked somewhere else.
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Bill Nichol's veterans today readings have been interesting, usually high numbers in the Northeast recently, I say watch the important politicians, when they start taking trips to Alaska, Puerto Rico, Europe, South America, Australia, etc. you will know THEY know the air isn't healthy right now.
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From Fermi 2 DTE website/Just FYI:

Emergency preparedness - what you need to know
The Fermi 2 emergency plans are tested regularly. The Federal government requires a complete test of the plan each year.

The siren system has been installed to cover a 10-mile radius around Fermi 2. This system is tested the last Wednesday of each month at 10 a.m. The sirens are controlled by Monroe County and Wayne County officials, who are responsible for the Emergency Alert System. These sirens are also used to alert residents in the event of tornadoes and other weather emergencies.

A summary of actions to be taken In the unlikely event of a nuclear emergency appear below. For full details, please see the booklet Emergency Preparedness for Monroe and Wayne Counties which can be downloaded here and is mailed to all residents within the 10-mile radius of the plant.

A 3-minute steady siren blast will be used to alert residents of an emergency.

Residents will be instructed to tune their radio or television to the Emergency Alert System (EAS).
Official directions and information will be provided.

If an evacuation is needed, residents with the 10-mile emergency planning zone will be informed by the EAS.

Evacuation routes, as well as the locations of reception and congregate care centers, will be announced.

The police will control access to the evacuated areas. Only authorized people will be allowed to enter the evacuated area.

[link to www.dteenergy.com]

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They also had a water leak back in March that shut them down, but it doesn't sound as serious as this event.

[link to www.monroenews.com]

Good picture of Fermi 2 here, in an article regarding how a few months ago, the NRC approved construction for the third plant on the site: [link to www.monroenews.com]

I can't find any info in local news (clickondetroit.com freep.com) regarding this most recent problem but the Toledo Blade is covering it a bit:

[link to www.toledoblade.com]
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Right now they are manually controlling feedwater (to keep hot rods covered) and the pressure in reactor vessel by playing with the relief valves...

They are still trying to find the second leak. It must be a biggie to drop in danger zone twice for one event.
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