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FERMI 2 REACTOR MICHIGAN - ONGOING EVENT - BIG PROBLEMS

 
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ALL of the reactors on the Great Lakes should be shut down!!

In the event of a Fukushima type event MULTIPLE CITIES on the Great Lakes that would lose their drinking water ... and without water a city DIES

1) Already there has been a meltdown at Fermi 1 and that reactor has never been able to even be unloaded ever since.

2) The Davis Bessie, about 30 miles as the crow flies from Fermi had an exact duplicate of the situation that led to the 3 Mile Island meltdown BEFORE 3 Mile Island happened, but the operators there figured out that the readings were wrong and unlike the slow learners in PA managed to flood the reactor just BEFORE the fuel got uncovered
(the NRC was so stupid and bureaucratic that they did NOT notify the other operators of clones of that B&W reactor as to what happened and what to watch out for ... thus when 3 Mile Island had a similar event about 18 months later it actually melted down)

3) Davis Bessie AGAIN had a serious issue where the lid on the pressurized reactor had almost been eaten all the way through because of an acid leak. The hole was about 8 inches deep on the 10 inch lid. It was only found before the pressure broke through because an OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR had to make a quick trip into the reactor room to check on something and it was just sitting there obvious to anyone walking in the room when you first walked in.
(the operator of the Plant was filing reports stating that they were PHYSICALLY INSPECTING the reactor inside the containment structure once every 6 weeks as required. The final report said that the HOLE in the top of the reactor lid would have been clearly visible for 18 months before it was accidentally discovered, probably about 6 weeks from the lid giving way and pressure being lost in the reactor)

US nuclear reactor operators are not very good ... and obviously LIE REGULARLY in their reports. They have had a difficult time keeping the Genie in the Bottle.

Time to shut down ALL nuclear power plants in the US before we have an accident that is really damaging here ... ala Fukushima level.
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"We Almost Lost Detroit"
(Fermi 1's meltdown - it is still "hot" 45+ years later)

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Local radio news report just stated the plant was shut down due to a cooling leak and technicians would decide if any repairs were necessary. I guess they had to say something.
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This sugar coated Free Press article says Fermi is shut down for an unspecified amount of time, but the only reason they won't say for how long is to prevent electricity suppliers from finding out about it and spiking the prices on us.


Awww, it's cuz they lurve us! hf


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Fermi II confirmed shut down

posting

thanks radchick
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[link to www.freep.com]

palisades in Mi also on shutdown mode...hiding


Something is not right here?

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palisades in Mi also on shutdown mode...hiding


Something is not right here?
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Understated!!
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Radiation network has Michigan at 53 highest in nation right now .
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We Almost Lost Detroit!
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If you read about the event at Fermi 1 in 1966 you will see that they were not forthcoming at all with the general public while it was happening.

At Fermi 2 they had 7 inches of the core not covered by water, twice in a relatively short amount of time. And they actually made that public. I wonder what they didn't tell?
"Everybody lies."
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If you read about the event at Fermi 1 in 1966 you will see that they were not forthcoming at all with the general public while it was happening.

At Fermi 2 they had 7 inches of the core not covered by water, twice in a relatively short amount of time. And they actually made that public. I wonder what they didn't tell?
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that's almost identical to what just happened

what's the bet they were bored and ran some safety checks and fucked up?
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I have friends that work there, I'm asking them what they know.
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When will governmnets learn FUCK NUCLEAR POWER... Its sickening how Japan forgot about fukushima and fired up all its nuke plants once again, putting the planet at risk again!

There is 10,000 times more sunlight energy reaching the earths surface than our entire current energy needs.

All we need is photovoltaics.
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Engrave that on a tombstone. Humanity is finished. Destroyed by the sellers of uranium i.e. the Queen of England
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When will governmnets learn FUCK NUCLEAR POWER... Its sickening how Japan forgot about fukushima and fired up all its nuke plants once again, putting the planet at risk again!

There is 10,000 times more sunlight energy reaching the earths surface than our entire current energy needs.

All we need is photovoltaics.
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slight fix

they only fired one up, and rufueling 1 of two reactors still....

but your point is correct... even the first one sprung leaks and was FUBAR....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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I have friends that work there, I'm asking them what they know.
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Me too.

My phone call with NRC spokeswoman yesterday:
"IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED SHUTDOWN, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT"

And its still going on. Day 4.

Enjoy ~

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I have friends that work there, I'm asking them what they know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69765090


Me too.

My phone call with NRC spokeswoman yesterday:
"IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED SHUTDOWN, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT"

And its still going on. Day 4.

Enjoy ~

 Quoting: RadChick


SUMMARY if no time for video:

(1) There still is no explanation for why the pumps shut down,

(2) they still don't know what the problem is,

(3) leaks were identified but spokesperson (Viktoria) "not sure where they are" - and

(4) the situation is ONGOING.

Also, Viktoria was very cautious about discussing radiation releases. You can easily detect she is nervous, and says several contradictory things in rapid succession. She went from "no radiation was released that WE DIDN'T EXPECT OR ANTICIPATE" which was then quickly corrected to "no radiation was released" - around 6:55 in video

Original phone call lasted 22 minutes, but she was so redundant in her explanations, about basically everything, that I had to edit the call for time.
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I have friends that work there, I'm asking them what they know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69765090


Me too.

My phone call with NRC spokeswoman yesterday:
"IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED SHUTDOWN, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT"

And its still going on. Day 4.

Enjoy ~

 Quoting: RadChick


SUMMARY if no time for video:

(1) There still is no explanation for why the pumps shut down,

(2) they still don't know what the problem is,

(3) leaks were identified but spokesperson (Viktoria) "not sure where they are" - and

(4) the situation is ONGOING.

Also, Viktoria was very cautious about discussing radiation releases. You can easily detect she is nervous, and says several contradictory things in rapid succession. She went from "no radiation was released that WE DIDN'T EXPECT OR ANTICIPATE" which was then quickly corrected to "no radiation was released" - around 6:55 in video

Original phone call lasted 22 minutes, but she was so redundant in her explanations, about basically everything, that I had to edit the call for time.
 Quoting: RadChick


bump
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About nuclear power.
It is very very very safe, we are told.
The people running the systems are highly trained, they say.
We need the power generated by the safe nuclear systems.

Let's start with the poor stupid person on the streets.
This perception held by the stupid public should be
Corrected by showing how safe the nuclear plants are!!!
Require that the major stock holders and upper management
Move themselves and their families onto buildings next
To the nuclear plants. Then the stupid public would see
How safe the plants truly are! Etc etc etc

You get the idea.
Milo824
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FYI Rad level readings are even higher today around Detroit and Toledo. Being posted on Global Radiation page on facebook. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

and here: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Also included the graphs from yesterday in the video above.
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Wow.... My home town I remember the 1966 event... Crazy
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I have friends that work there, I'm asking them what they know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69765090


Me too.

My phone call with NRC spokeswoman yesterday:
"IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED SHUTDOWN, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT"

And its still going on. Day 4.

Enjoy ~

 Quoting: RadChick


SUMMARY if no time for video:

(1) There still is no explanation for why the pumps shut down,

(2) they still don't know what the problem is,

(3) leaks were identified but spokesperson (Viktoria) "not sure where they are" - and

(4) the situation is ONGOING.

Also, Viktoria was very cautious about discussing radiation releases. You can easily detect she is nervous, and says several contradictory things in rapid succession. She went from "no radiation was released that WE DIDN'T EXPECT OR ANTICIPATE" which was then quickly corrected to "no radiation was released" - around 6:55 in video

Original phone call lasted 22 minutes, but she was so redundant in her explanations, about basically everything, that I had to edit the call for time.
 Quoting: RadChick


Did everyone forgot about STUXNET worm and on sabotage Iranian Nuclear Facilities by this virus ?
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Awesome job, RadChick! Thank you for your time, concern, and work.
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Any feedback at to the status TODAY: Thursday 9/17/15

It really bothered me in going through the NRC stuff that the entire auto control system for almost everything critical shut down and that they were having to HAND RUN each of the major systems (as of the last report on here).

It is one thing to have a cooling leak, those have happened at other plants in the past, but for that to escalate to control systems for one thing and then another thing NOT WORKING is scary.

Is the reactor, cooling, and pressurization systems still being run by hand?

Looking for any current information
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We Almost Lost Detroit!
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We already least Detroit to the negroids.
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Any updates?
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I have friends that work there, I'm asking them what they know.
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Me too.

My phone call with NRC spokeswoman yesterday:
"IT WAS A VERY COMPLICATED SHUTDOWN, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT"

And its still going on. Day 4.

Enjoy ~

 Quoting: RadChick


Watched the video w/phone conversation...Oh my GAWD.
This is a very disturbing phone conversation, OP.
The person is OBVIOUSLY not the best representative to
be talking with the public--very unprofessional and
disorganized responses to your clear questions.

When a Belly Dancer is the best that the NUKE industry
can do to represent their "cause," I would say that
we are all fucked sideways.

Thanks for the thread!
cheers
O'sCookie
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guys i am scared i a m looking at netc.com and there is this thing by toledo has been at radcon 4 for a while, and is reading 387cpm, is it bad? i'm located north of it 40 miles i am very scared is it okay
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guys i am scared i a m looking at netc.com and there is this thing by toledo has been at radcon 4 for a while, and is reading 387cpm, is it bad? i'm located north of it 40 miles i am very scared is it okay
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i haven't checked but first thing is don't panic

2. it depends on the scanner, type etc, and how many sources are being averaged out (to minimise chance of calibration or other error)
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bumpbumpbump???

Where did everyone go? Any updates?
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