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FERMI 2 REACTOR MICHIGAN - ONGOING EVENT - BIG PROBLEMS

 
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guys i am scared i a m looking at netc.com and there is this thing by toledo has been at radcon 4 for a while, and is reading 387cpm, is it bad? i'm located north of it 40 miles i am very scared is it okay
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387 is significantly higher than background. I would be taking iodine.
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guys i am scared i a m looking at netc.com and there is this thing by toledo has been at radcon 4 for a while, and is reading 387cpm, is it bad? i'm located north of it 40 miles i am very scared is it okay
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387 is significantly higher than background. I would be taking iodine.
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Now I know why everyone has a headache including myself , I saw a cloud descend over my house and knew it wasn't good yesterday morning, I knew it
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Uh, if water is "dropping" doesn't that imply it needs to go somewhere else? And if so, where is this irradiated water going?

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So if Canada had nukes I guess now would be the time to fire at our aggressors, before we are dead?
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Its going into lake Erie the source of southwestern Ontario drinking water, murder in the first degree
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Wormwood , your the wood its the worm, eat you from the inside
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Cowardly attack by stupid people, they really have no idea when it comes to what power truly is and when they find out it will be done
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09/18/2015 11:13 AM
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Uh, if water is "dropping" doesn't that imply it needs to go somewhere else? And if so, where is this irradiated water going?


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it evaporates through heat, or leaks out the clean water intake into the water source - the river...
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Somehow I knew this would happen, for 10 years I have waited for now,its now,now,now,now,now,now,now,now,now,now!
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Current CPM is 319. Wayyyyy higher than average.
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I think that it's a great idea to build a facility that can poison the largest supply of fresh water in the northern hemisphere! Build a plant that cannot self cool if you loose power, loose pressure, make it a doomsday device balanced on the edge of a cliff knowing that a strong wind will never happen. If this reality does not sound like the plot for a cheap movie I don't know what does.
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I think that it's a great idea to build a facility that can poison the largest supply of fresh water in the northern hemisphere! Build a plant that cannot self cool if you loose power, loose pressure, make it a doomsday device balanced on the edge of a cliff knowing that a strong wind will never happen. If this reality does not sound like the plot for a cheap movie I don't know what does.
 Quoting: Milo824


talk to GE and TEPCO...


be honest? all of the world's governments are culpable....

Last Edited by CitizenPerth on 09/18/2015 08:24 PM
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I'm way down south in Texas, yet want to thank all the people who keep on looking for information and getting it out. You have taken on big responsibility, with the compensation being our thanks. You all are our unsung heroes. I keep you all in my prayers daily.

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I'm way down south in Texas, yet want to thank all the people who keep on looking for information and getting it out. You have taken on big responsibility, with the compensation being our thanks. You all are our unsung heroes. I keep you all in my prayers daily.

hf
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bump
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Look, maybe I have things all wrong.
We all live on the earth, right?
We all need food, water, etc.
Now if you help kill an ocean everyone including the people
Who are killing the ocean will be poisoned, right?
So to make a buck, keep power, etc
You kill everyone including yourself!
Now is it me or if someone is doing something like this
Could they not be considered criminally INSANE?
Similar to someone trying to blow up a building they are in?
Or maybe it's just me.
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In more hopeful news:

[snip]

Farewell to Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station?

by Christina MacPherson

nuclear-costs3Say goodbye to Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station?

By Kristin Toussaint @kristindakota Boston.com Staff | 09.18.15 Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station—officially one of the worst-ranked nuclear plants in the country—might soon close if officials can’t afford to make it safer, according to The Boston Globe .

The federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission downgraded the Plymouth facility earlier this month, marking it as one of the three least-safe plants in the country. The multimillion-dollar repairs required to improve safety might be out of reach for Pilgrim officials, the Globe reports, meaning the 43-year-old plant may close........

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Christina MacPherson is an Australian reporter and activist. She runs Nuclear-News.net

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Who will pay for the decommissioning process?
Where will the waste be stored?
How long will the waste be poision to our children's health?
So we build a basically unstable power plant.

This plant can not be safely kept in a stable state with no electrical power. See Fukushima!

When it ages and must shut down we have thousands of tons of waste that will be posion for how long?

Please tell me how this makes sense?
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Who will pay for the decommissioning process?
Where will the waste be stored?
How long will the waste be poision to our children's health?
So we build a basically unstable power plant.

This plant can not be safely kept in a stable state with no electrical power. See Fukushima!

When it ages and must shut down we have thousands of tons of waste that will be posion for how long?

Please tell me how this makes sense?
 Quoting: Milo824


nukes never did unless you wanted to win a war over half a century ago....

it's like breaking out a man of war against a battle ship

if we live long enough our children will laugh

the same as lead used for cups and water pipes, asbestos for insulation, mercury as a medicine... the list of our follies are endless... we are just way slow on the uptake of this one....

truth is, they can build them, but they can't make them go away.... they know this....
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My suggestion is simple.
The problem seems to be that the people making the decision's are not physically connected to the answers.

If a person makes battle plans but never faces danger that persons battle plans will cost a very many lives during the learning curve, leadership means leading.

If the management and board of directors of Fukushima had to live right next to the plants I will guarantee that the outcome would have been far different.

As long as you get beat for my mistakes I WILL take a very long time learning from those mistakes!

Require those making the decisions and the profit to live with the process and the results!

Somethings are just that easy to fix.
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Netc.com has Toledo at 170 CPM. That's pretty high considering where I''m at has never gone above 20 CPM average.

A few days ago it was 130 CPM.
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09/19/2015 09:10 AM
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do you guys want a list of current rad-watch groups in the US?

they all have different styled monitoring sites...

the first that comes to mind is meme's site, that i helped with...

they monitor daily... most a citizen groups

i'll have to look them up again because it's not my focus, but i helped build a few, and know many of the owners/ group leaders

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do you guys want a list of current rad-watch groups in the US?

they all have different styled monitoring sites...

the first that comes to mind is meme's site, that i helped with...

they monitor daily... most a citizen groups

i'll have to look them up again because it's not my focus, but i helped build a few, and know many of the owners/ group leaders
 Quoting: Citizenperth


That would be a great resouce to have CP please post
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It takes a lot to break welds on big pipe. I work with heavy pipe called sched 80. That will never ever just break. The only way a leak can happen is that it overheated and overtime just let go, it froze and split, corrosion, bad welding or someone is deliberately cutting it.

The freezing and splitting is the first option to be eliminated.

Someone cutting it is probably not true either.

So it's corrosion or overheating.
Probably the whole plant is full of rotten pipe.
Pipes and valves and pumps need steady maintenance.
They have a FINITE lifespan. It should be no surprise when old pipe leaks.
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It takes a lot to break welds on big pipe. I work with heavy pipe called sched 80. That will never ever just break. The only way a leak can happen is that it overheated and overtime just let go, it froze and split, corrosion, bad welding or someone is deliberately cutting it.

The freezing and splitting is the first option to be eliminated.

Someone cutting it is probably not true either.

So it's corrosion or overheating.
Probably the whole plant is full of rotten pipe.
Pipes and valves and pumps need steady maintenance.
They have a FINITE lifespan. It should be no surprise when old pipe leaks.
 Quoting: Kris Dingleberry


time span and location...

you know that if you bury them, time life is shortened...

that and how long they have been there.. we're talking about manufactured piping that is 60 years old...
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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I went out to Sterling State Park yesterday 9-19-15 which is very close to Fermi Nuclear Power plant.

I found nothing on my spectrometer.

I talked with the fishermen there and was within a mile of Fermi within full visual range of it, thy didn't seem concern.

However as I looked across Lake Erie to Davis-Besse Nuclear power plant in Ohio it was billowing steam from it's tower yet when I looked at Fermi, there was nothing coming out of it. It looked like it was shut down.

I visit that area almost weekly and very few times if any do I recall no steam release at Fermi.

Perhaps there is nothing to it.

What got my attention though as I sat smoking a cigar on a mile long pristine beach that was empty was from time to time men would walk on the beach with binoculars and focus in on Fermi and Davis-Besse instead of the birds and such.

Probably nothing, but I thought I would pass this along.


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guys i am scared i a m looking at netc.com and there is this thing by toledo has been at radcon 4 for a while, and is reading 387cpm, is it bad? i'm located north of it 40 miles i am very scared is it okay
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69627776


387 is significantly higher than background. I would be taking iodine.
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Or a bus out of town. 397 cpm on a small, non-disk (tube) counter is the same as what I get at 25,000 feet. At sea level, that is abnormal.





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